[Baketech]

I'm sure you've seen this email circulating....can anyone confirm the accuracy...nuttin on Snopes...

CAN YOU NAME THIS COUNTRY ?

709,000 REGULAR (ACTIVE DUTY) PERSONNEL.

293,000 RESERVE TROOPS.

EIGHT STANDING ARMY DIVISIONS.

20 AIR FORCE AND NAVY AIR WINGS WITH 2,000 COMBAT AIRCRAFT.

232 STRATEGIC BOMBERS.

19 STRATEGIC BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR WARHEADS ON 232 MISSILES.

500 ICBMs WITH 1,950 WARHEADS

FOUR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND 121 SURFACE COMBAT SHIPS AND SUBMARINES

PLUS ALL THE SUPPORT BASES, SHIPYARDS, AND LOGISTICAL ASSETS NEEDED TO SUSTAIN SUCH A NAVAL FORCE.

IS THIS COUNTRY?

RUSSIA ? NO

CHINA ? NO

GREAT BRITAIN ? NO

FRANCE ? WRONG AGAIN ( What a Laugh!!!!!)

MUST BE USA ? STILL WRONG (SORT OF)

GIVE UP ?

THESE ARE THE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES THAT WERE ELIMINATED DURING THE ADMINISTRATION OF BILL CLINTON AND AL GORE.

[Cowboy1600]

Originally Posted by Baketech

I'm sure you've seen this email circulating....can anyone confirm the accuracy...nuttin on Snopes...

Is that a bad thing?

Can Americans no longer sleep at night knowing that you still have the single most powerful armed force on the face of the planet?

If so Im ****ed!! cause we Aussies got **** all!!!

I dont get it

[Zeeman]

Our defense force is about as good as that pic of the "Canadian Navy" - some dude in a tinny runabout with a 5hp engine and an M60 mounted on the deck... (no idea where the pic is..)

Z...

[zenblader]

Originally Posted by Baketech

I'm sure you've seen this email circulating....can anyone confirm the accuracy...nuttin on Snopes...

THESE ARE THE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES THAT WERE ELIMINATED DURING THE Terms of the 103rd-106th Congress.

Unless I'm mistaken it's Congress that decides what money goes to what and how much. Or does the Constitution still count?

Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Besides, there have been plenty of solid Republicans, including Rummy that called for base closures and a restructuring of the military. So I don't see the political significance of the numbers whether they are true or not...

[luvtolean]

Yep, nothing wrong with downsizing the military (bases and people are the most expensive part of course). But there is something massively wrong with cutting back on advanced weapons systems.

However Zen, the Pres can certainly "influence" events dramatically so I think your implication that it was all due to Congress, and not Billybob is offbase.

If it was all Congress' fault, why are you so blameful of Bush in Iraq? It was Congress (including Kerry) that sent the boys right?

[Baketech]

Originally Posted by zenblader

THESE ARE THE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES THAT WERE ELIMINATED DURING THE Terms of the 103rd-106th Congress.

Unless I'm mistaken it's Congress that decides what money goes to what and how much. Or does the Constitution still count?

Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Besides, there have been plenty of solid Republicans, including Rummy that called for base closures and a restructuring of the military. So I don't see the political significance of the numbers whether they are true or not...

I guess I didn't ask who did it...nor does the email state who did.....I just asked if the numbers were true.

Anyone....Bueller...?

[nomad]

Why does it matter if you weren't trying to troll with that implication?

So what if it is true or false?

[zenblader]

Originally Posted by luvtolean

Yep, nothing wrong with downsizing the military (bases and people are the most expensive part of course). But there is something massively wrong with cutting back on advanced weapons systems.

However Zen, the Pres can certainly "influence" events dramatically so I think your implication that it was all due to Congress, and not Billybob is offbase.

If it was all Congress' fault, why are you so blameful of Bush in Iraq? It was Congress (including Kerry) that sent the boys right?

L2L,

I didn't mean to imply it was all the fault of Congress! Just pointing out that Congress has a major say in the direction of military concerns. Most people don't even know what the Constitution says or how this country is governed and it shows with stupid comments from stupid people who can't be bothered to see both sides of an issue.
As far as Iraq. I don't blame just Bush for that bullshit. I blame the intelligence or lack thereof. I blame the people who pressure or coerce Bush behind the scenes and I blame the media and Demos for going along with it without doing their homework.
I think I may have said this in another post somewhere, but in the first Gulf War maybe 10% of our bombs and missiles had "smart" technology. In the invasion of Iraq, 70% or better were "smart". Where the hell did all those new tech bombs and missiles come from? Uh....?

[Mo Noyz]

Actually, military base closures and re-alignments started in 1988.

It brings me great pain to say this, but it wasn't Clintons fault.

And we're due for another round in 2005.


http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03723.pdf