[rocket]

Excerpt from O'Reilly Factor:
Hating America. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo." According to a new poll, 40 percent of Canadian teenagers think America is an evil country. Among French-Canadian teens, the number jumps to 64 percent. Those numbers can be laid right on the doorstep of the Canadian media and government

As you may know, the FOX News Channel is not allowed in Canada, but CNN is. Fair and balanced? You decide.

The USA takes a relentless pounding from many Canadian news organizations and from the liberal government. So, what can we expect from the kids? They're not getting a full picture. And neither is most of the world.

Increasingly, the bully America is being portrayed as the devil. And the far left in this country is gleefully piling on. Guys like Michael Moore [are] running around the world telling everybody what a bad place America is. Moore and his enablers should be very proud of themselves

For the benefit of the Canadian kids, let's take a look at the record:


•The foreign and defense policies of Ronald Reagan (search) resulted in the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the freeing of approximately 122 million people in Eastern Europe.

• The state of Israel would cease to exist if not for American protection, and about 5.5 million Jews would be in grave danger.

• Nearly 23 million Taiwanese would be denied freedom if not for American protection. More than 48 million South Koreans would be living under a dictatorship if not for American protection. USA action led to the removal of the Serbian dictator Milosevic (search), who was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people in the Balkans.

• The USA and Britain removed the Iraqi dictator Hussein, who was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East. And we have also removed the terrorist Taliban government in Afghanistan.

• America is sending $15 billion to Africa to help victims of AIDS. We were unable to find out how much France contributes, if anything. To be fair, Canada sends $270 million, which is substantial.

• American action in Central America, Grenada (search), and Haiti (search) has kept millions of people out of totalitarian regimes. Of course, all of this has cost every American taxpayer big. And thousands of American servicepeople have lost their lives protecting people overseas.

It is insulting and dishonest for Americans and Canadians and Europeans to condemn this country because they don't like certain policies. Dissent is good. Slander is unacceptable.

The truth is that the USA has freed more human beings in 230 years than the rest of the world combined. France has freed almost no one. Ditto Canada.

So, pardon me as I object to the Michael Moores of the world — and that man is too cowardly to come in here, all right? Pardon me as I object to the anti-American foreign press and bums like Chirac in France and Chretien in Canada.

America has a provable history of freeing oppressed people all over the world in fighting evil dictators. Canada should be ashamed that so many of its young people are flat out ignorant. And Americans should wise up and realize we are living in a changing world. Old friends are not necessarily true friends.

[nhfirefighter13]

F'em, they're teenagers. Besides, one day the world will come to recognize Canada under its true name...Western Maine.

Don't even think about it. We have waaaaaay more guns than they do.

[asiliat]

Since when was fox not allowed in canada? we have Fox right here in Toronto, canada. Channel 21 with Rogers' cable.

[MACI4LIFE]

Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

F'em, they're teenagers. Besides, one day the world will come to recognize Canada under its true name...Western Maine.

Don't even think about it. We have waaaaaay more guns than they do.

That is totally uncalled for to call Canada western Maine. We're east west and north of Maine so i prefer Greater Maine

[nhfirefighter13]

Originally Posted by MACI4LIFE

That is totally uncalled for to call Canada western Maine. We're east west and north of Maine so i prefer Greater Maine

How about Upper Maine? Greater Maine takes away from US dominance.

[nomad]

We're still bigger than you.

[nomad]

... and have better beer.

[Bacchus]

USA vs Canada - this should be good...

Don't get me wrong, I love you Hosers! Molsens and all... But, have you ever tried an American microbrew? Start out with a Stone IPA if you wnat to taste a real ale.

[CBRVFR]

Baccus, I keep telling you.. the Molson you get in AZ is a pale shadow of the real thing.

Canadian beer is to American beer as American money is to Canadian money.

I can only imagine what their microbreweries can come up with...

[matt232]

Looks you lot squabling over the scraps of this fine earth. See the main problem with you lot is that your not in the Southern Hemisphere, or to be more precise Downunder, this is the place to be!!

[nhfirefighter13]

Originally Posted by nomad

We're still bigger than you.

Are you sure about that?

I think we have you beat by about 100,000 sq km in land.

Also, you have about 32 million people living in Canada...we have almost 300 million.

You have about 6 million guns...we have about 200 million guns (private ownership/non-military).

What was that about a ?

[Zeeman]

Blargh - we have a cattle station that is bigger than Texas

Z...

[Baketech]

Originally Posted by Zeeman

Blargh - we have a cattle station that is bigger than Texas

Z...

Is that the one that doubles as a brothel....???

[ER]

Originally Posted by Baketech

Is that the one that doubles as a brothel....???

[Kuss929]

Originally Posted by rocket

As you may know, the FOX News Channel is not allowed in Canada, but CNN is. Fair and balanced? You decide.

They may be there but they suck. I like to get my news from the CBC, CityTV in Toronto and the BBC. Much more entertaining and they just report the news not try to grab ratings from other news stations. (Who can show an empty podium the longest?)

It is nice to see a variety of people on the news in Canada also. They are from all different nationalities. There are very few 60 year white old anchormen and 30 year old blonde anchorwomen.

**** at least 40 percent of Canadian teenagers know enough about the US to have an opinion. I wonder what percentage of US teens could find Canada on a map of North America?

[nomad]

Originally Posted by Baketech

Is that the one that doubles as a brothel....???

Yes, Texas is the state that doubles as a brothel.

[nomad]

Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

Are you sure about that?

I think we have you beat by about 100,000 sq km in land.

Also, you have about 32 million people living in Canada...we have almost 300 million.

You have about 6 million guns...we have about 200 million guns (private ownership/non-military).

What was that about a ?

http://geography.about.com/library/m...gcountries.htm

Yes, I'm sure about that.

[nomad]

Originally Posted by Kuss929

They may be there but they suck. I like to get my news from the CBC, CityTV in Toronto and the BBC. Much more entertaining and they just report the news not try to grab ratings from other news stations. (Who can show an empty podium the longest?)

It is nice to see a variety of people on the news in Canada also. They are from all different nationalities. There are very few 60 year white old anchormen and 30 year old blonde anchorwomen.

**** at least 40 percent of Canadian teenagers know enough about the US to have an opinion. I wonder what percentage of US teens could find Canada on a map of North America?

Wow... did you just stir up the honey pot.

Rocket is trolling with his remarks... there are many fallacies in there including that we don't get Fox. hahahaa... ok, I don't trust fox news OR CNN. Then again, I'm not much for CityTV here in Toronto either. CBC and BBC I respect as good news sources for world news. CNN is "By the USA for the USA"... very USA perspective compared to other stations reporting the same news.

[nomad]

Originally Posted by Bacchus

Don't get me wrong, I love you Hosers! Molsens and all... But, have you ever tried an American microbrew? Start out with a Stone IPA if you wnat to taste a real ale.

Bacchus... It's "Molson". Secondly, Molson mass produces beer for the general public; you need to try our real beer.

Now a little story. You may know that I was working in Boston about a month ago (maybe 2 months ago) and on my last trip down, I brought six different Canadian beers (errr, a sub-selection from my fridge :cheeers for one of my colleagues down south. In return, he took me to a local brew-pub to try "his fabourite drinking hole". I will emphasize the word "hole". Anyway, so we walk in and the conversation goes like this...
Bartender: What do you drink?
Jordan: Canadian beer.
Bartender: We don't have any of that here. What else would you like?
Jordan: I'm looking for a good Amarikan (my USA accent in play) beer.
Bartender: Sorry, we don't have any of that here either. Here try this...

We repeated this conversation all night and I tried samplers from every tap in the place. My observations were this...
1. Standard US beers were as I remember them... uh... I'll pass.
2. The microbrews I tried were very... "young". By that I mean, you can taste the inexperience of the brewmaster.
3. The acceptable beers that I tried Sam Adam's Summer Ale or something and Bass Ale (a USA beer??) were palatable only because they were so weak-tasting that their taste didn't stand out.
4. Contrary to popular belief, US beers are on par with Canadian alcohol levels 5%+... although most people in the bar were drinking light beer. Why?!

5. 25oz pints of beer is a good thing... unless they are filled with 25oz of US beer.

[MACI4LIFE]

Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

How about Upper Maine? Greater Maine takes away from US dominance.

I like upper Maine. nice ring to it. plus it'll save on duties when we buy from you at christmas again.

[ER]

Originally Posted by nomad

Bacchus... It's "Molson". Secondly, Molson mass produces beer for the general public; you need to try our real beer.

Now a little story. You may know that I was working in Boston about a month ago (maybe 2 months ago) and on my last trip down, I brought six different Canadian beers (errr, a sub-selection from my fridge :cheeers for one of my colleagues down south. In return, he took me to a local brew-pub to try "his fabourite drinking hole". I will emphasize the word "hole". Anyway, so we walk in and the conversation goes like this...
Bartender: What do you drink?
Jordan: Canadian beer.
Bartender: We don't have any of that here. What else would you like?
Jordan: I'm looking for a good Amarikan (my USA accent in play) beer.
Bartender: Sorry, we don't have any of that here either. Here try this...

We repeated this conversation all night and I tried samplers from every tap in the place. My observations were this...
1. Standard US beers were as I remember them... uh... I'll pass.
2. The microbrews I tried were very... "young". By that I mean, you can taste the inexperience of the brewmaster.
3. The acceptable beers that I tried Sam Adam's Summer Ale or something and Bass Ale (a USA beer??) were palatable only because they were so weak-tasting that their taste didn't stand out.
4. Contrary to popular belief, US beers are on par with Canadian alcohol levels 5%+... although most people in the bar were drinking light beer. Why?!

5. 25oz pints of beer is a good thing... unless they are filled with 25oz of US beer.

Michelob Amberbach from the tap...that's all you need to know. Be sure to order a basket of good, spicy buffalo-wings with it.

[nomad]

Originally Posted by MACI4LIFE

I like upper Maine. nice ring to it. plus it'll save on duties when we buy from you at christmas again.

But would you want to be drafted?

[nomad]

Originally Posted by ER

Michelob Amberbach from the tap...that's all you need to know. Be sure to order a basket of good, spicy buffalo-wings with it.

Michelob?? I thought they had a hard time GIVING that away!?! I think that's what they had for $1/bottle in Vegas and it wasn't moving over the bar.

[CBRVFR]

Nomad -

Let me know when you're in Michigan. We'll go to Arbor Brewing. You'll like it.