John Kerry Wants to Ban Guns in America!!!!

figment · 10-26-2004, 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

No i didnt miss the point. I understand its the people who are the problem. What guns do however is compound the problem by making it terribly easy to kill someone. Until the core problem of a completely unstable society can be rectified anything that is designed to kill someone else should be controlled much more heavily.

man lay off the sauce before you post anymore

"the core problem of a completely unstable society"

Thats why a law abiding person needs a gun!

Cars kill more people every day than guns do in a year and they are not "designed" to kill people.

go sleep it off man. Glad you're over there, as I hope you feel the same about me

luvtolean · 10-26-2004, 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by figment

"for every anti gun post. Buy another gun!" My Wife is gonna love this

$729.00 On Sale!

A friend of mine used the Mark 23 in the Navy and was trying to convince me to buy one. I shot a Tactical and just couldn't get into the gun.

The cuarenta y cinco just fits my hand too well and feels too good in recoil (my gripe with big plastic guns). Browning was a genius.

rocket · 10-26-2004, 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

You know at the end of the day I couldnt give a **** if you guys are allowed to own weapons. Doesnt affect me in anyway. The quicker darwins laws take hold the better. I dont suffer fools. If you want to continue killing eachother fine. Just hurry up so we dont have to hear about it anymore

Cowards.

You posted 13 times about something that you couldn't give a **** about?

Cowards

rocket · 10-26-2004, 7:45 PM

I thought the same thing... PUT THE DRINK DOWN and STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD!

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Originally Posted by figment

man lay off the sauce before you post anymore

"the core problem of a completely unstable society"

Thats why a law abiding person needs a gun!

Cars kill more people every day than guns do in a year and they are not "designed" to kill people.

go sleep it off man. Glad you're over there, as I hope you feel the same about me

figment · 10-26-2004, 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Cowards.

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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
--Benjamin Franklin

Who is a coward? One who would fight to defend his liberty, or one who hide behind feel-good laws and shirk his responsibility to others, hoping they will defend him?

ccwilli3 · 10-26-2004, 8:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

So, who reloads?

I have a Hornaday Lock and Load with stuff to reload .45ACP for my 1911 and stuff for 30-06.

I haven't set it up yet, but it should be a fun project.

I do, dillon 550B for .40S&W. Hope to start loading .45ACP too...

It's VERY addictive!!!

rocket · 10-26-2004, 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ccwilli3

I do, dillon 550B for .40S&W. Hope to start loading .45ACP too...

It's VERY addictive!!!

Nice. The Caddy of reloaders.

figment · 10-26-2004, 8:21 PM

I have most of the brass I have ever shot and some primer and bullets, but never gotten around to getting a press

somehow I think I wouldnt like it

luvtolean · 10-26-2004, 8:27 PM

Send it all my way.

rocket · 10-26-2004, 8:30 PM

nah, You'd like it. Like CCWILLI3 said I hear it's very addictive. I want a press myself... one of these days

.

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Originally Posted by figment

I have most of the brass I have ever shot and some primer and bullets, but never gotten around to getting a press

somehow I think I wouldnt like it

ccwilli3 · 10-26-2004, 9:41 PM

I highly recommend reloading, its quite addictive. Its fun to figure which loads your gun shoots better than others! It involves lots of testing, so thats even more runs to the range!

I recommend a good single stage press to start. Then move to a progressive.

thebackdraft · 10-26-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

You know at the end of the day I couldnt give a **** if you guys are allowed to own weapons. Doesnt affect me in anyway. The quicker darwins laws take hold the better. I dont suffer fools. If you want to continue killing eachother fine. Just hurry up so we dont have to hear about it anymore

Cowards.

Then

and mind your business if that's the case.

NinerPilot · 10-26-2004, 10:31 PM

Im using a RCBS Rock Chucker that I got from my grandfather, and Im anxiously waiting to get a Dillon progressive. Although Ill always use the RC for rifle rounds as I hand measure all the powder for them, I cant wait to get one.
Chris

rocket · 10-26-2004, 11:45 PM

Saw this on another site I frequent....

Cowboy1600 · 10-27-2004, 2:16 AM

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Originally Posted by figment

Who is a coward? One who would fight to defend his liberty, or one who hide behind feel-good laws and shirk his responsibility to others, hoping they will defend him?

Far out you guys can regurgitate a load of crap.

I dont need someone to defend me, you know why? Cause I dont have anyone to fear. Im not petrified of who might be lurking in the shadows. Unlike you guys I dont live in a country gripped by paranoia. Oh I know, terrorist **** this and terrorist **** that. If the US foreign policy wasnt so screwed maybe they would have left you alone. Unfortunately its to late and many more innocent bystanders are going to die before this crap finally finishes.

And before you get off your horses Im not condoning the actions of terrorist, what they have done and will continue do is terrible, but nor am I condoning the actions of the US government either. they have been involved in, and still are, more than their fair amount of genocide, terrorism, oppression etc. Its just sucks that its you guys that'll end up being on the receiving end. But aslong as you go to sleep at night with a .38 under your pillow you'll be safe....right?

But its not terrorist that your protecting yourselves from, its eachother. Surely such a high rate of gun crimes points to a society in decline? No other developed country "enjoys" such a reputation of gun crime as the US.

Cowboy1600 · 10-27-2004, 2:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket

You posted 13 times about something that you couldn't give a **** about?

Cowards

Meh....its interesting hearing what you guys can come up with

But I really dont care if you blow eachothers heads off

VIVA LA FREEDOM!!!!

oh but im not free.....i dont own a gun

Cowboy1600 · 10-27-2004, 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by figment

man lay off the sauce before you post anymore

"the core problem of a completely unstable society"

Thats why a law abiding person needs a gun!

Cars kill more people every day than guns do in a year and they are not "designed" to kill people.

go sleep it off man. Glad you're over there, as I hope you feel the same about me

And cars also do millions and millions of k's every day. How many people are transported to hospital by ambulance every day? How many fire trucks race to save people in danger? Rescue squads on pushbikes? I dont think so. Cars serve a purpose everyday, unfortunately some people die in the process of them being used. As long as we continue to enjoy the positives from transport we must accept that A) people will die and B) the number of people who die are not proportional to the advantage we get from them. However guns kill HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A WEEK in the US. And while its impossible to gain an understanding of how many people are "saved" by guns, Id be willing to bet far more are harmed the saved from harm. Heck, even when someone is "saved" there is usually someone(a "potential" criminal)who is harmed.

Once again, surely you can see the need to control guns more tightly. Make it harder for everyone to get hold of a gun, whether legal or not.

Johnny Diablo · 10-27-2004, 4:02 AM

You guys talk alot about the 45s no one is a fan of the 10mm?

I know the ammo costs more but I was thinkin about gettin a full body glock 10mm. the GLOCK 20?

Baketech · 10-27-2004, 8:33 AM

Some great comic relief in this thread...keep it coming...

Baketech · 10-27-2004, 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Far out you guys can regurgitate a load of crap.

I dont need someone to defend me, you know why? Cause I dont have anyone to fear. Im not petrified of who might be lurking in the shadows. Unlike you guys I dont live in a country gripped by paranoia. Oh I know, terrorist **** this and terrorist **** that. If the US foreign policy wasnt so screwed maybe they would have left you alone. Unfortunately its to late and many more innocent bystanders are going to die before this crap finally finishes.

I'm not going to comment on the misconceptions you have about this country...it's glaringly obvious that you have an axe to grind, and would never open your mind to another POV but your own....

But tell me...if you don't need someone to defend you, why does your government buy FA/18's and the like from us....

figment · 10-27-2004, 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

You guys talk alot about the 45s no one is a fan of the 10mm?

I know the ammo costs more but I was thinkin about gettin a full body glock 10mm. the GLOCK 20?

Oh yes, Ted Nudgent and I favor the mighty 10. (And all its varients)

.357sig is pretty snappy! I carry a 20 most of the time. Makes big holes and takes hicap mags.

figment · 10-27-2004, 9:14 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Send it all my way.

I have several thousand rounds of belted APIT .50bmg still in the wooden armory crates if you need them.

figment · 10-27-2004, 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket

Saw this on another site I frequent....

FIRST AMENDMENT DOOMED WITHOUT SECOND

A good read on the background of the American gun culture:
The Second Amendment in the Nineteenth Century (Look at the section on Tucker and his Blackstone volumes)

ccwilli3 · 10-27-2004, 9:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

You guys talk alot about the 45s no one is a fan of the 10mm?

I know the ammo costs more but I was thinkin about gettin a full body glock 10mm. the GLOCK 20?

The G20 is awesome. Very awesome. Check out the G29 too!

I have always been a fan of .40 and .357Sig. Just recently getting into .45ACP...