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Osama bin Laden, in Al-Jazeera video broadcast, campaigns against Bush.
Al-Jazeera Airs Videotape by Bin Laden
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Oct 29, 4:45 PM (ET)





CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Osama bin Laden, reading a statement to the American people in a new videotape aired Friday, directly admitted for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks and said "the best way to avoid another Manhattan" was to stop threatening Muslims' security.

It was the first footage of the al-Qaida leader to surface in more than a year. The video, broadcast on Al-Jazeera, showed bin Laden with a long gray beard, wearing traditional white robes, a turban and a golden cloak reading from papers in front of a plain, brown curtain.

In Washington, the FBI and Justice Department had no immediate assessment of the meaning of the bin Laden tape. Officials said one part of their analysis will be to discern whether there may be hidden messages or clues about a possible future attack against the United States. But they said it was too early to know that yet.

There was no way to determine when the tape was made, although it did refer to next week's presidential elections in the United States.

"We decided to destroy towers in America," bin Laden said, referring to the World Trade Center.

"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said.

He accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic candidate John) Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said.

"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.

"We fought you because we are free .. and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours."

The image of bin Laden reading a statement was dramatically different from the few other videos of the al-Qaida leader that have emerged since the Sept. 11 attacks.

In the last videotape, issued Sept. 10, 2003, bin Laden is seen walking through rocky terrain with his top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, both carrying automatic rifles. In a taped message issued at the same time, bin Laden praises the "great damage to the enemy" on Sept. 11 and mentions five hijackers by name.

In December 2001, the Pentagon released a videotape in which bin Laden is shown at a dinner with associates in Afghanistan on Nov. 9, 2001, saying the destruction of the Sept. 11 attacks exceeded even his "optimistic" calculations.

But in none of his previous messages, audio or video, did bin Laden directly state that he ordered the attacks.

The last audiotape purportedly from bin Laden came in April. The speaker on the tape, which CIA analysts said likely was the al-Qaida leader, offered a truce to European nations if they pull troops out of Muslim countries. The tape referred to the March 22 assassination by Israel of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.

Al-Zawahri, bin Laden's Egyptian deputy, has spoken on three recent audiotapes that emerged on June 11, Sept. 9 and Oct. 1 this year. In the latest, he called on young Muslims to strike the United States and its allies.








Al-Jazeera Airs Videotape by Bin Laden
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Oct 29, 4:16 PM (ET)

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - The Arab television station Al-Jazeera aired a video of Osama bin Laden on Friday directly admitting for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and promising to outline "the best way to avoid another Manhattan."

It was the first footage of the al-Qaida leader to surface in more than a year. The video showed bin Laden in traditional white robes, a turban and a cloak reading from papers and standing in front of a plain, brown cloth background.

"We decided to destroy towers in America," bin Laden said.

He said the attack was carried out because "we are a free people ... and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."

He also accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people three years since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

[Baketech]

The recap I saw was neutral...anti-American, but neither pro Kerry or Bush...

[dB]

Bake, where did you see the neutral version?

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The printed part is from the AP http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041029/D861AA4G0.html

I put the Foxnews link in for more details. This is a non-partisan issue. This guy needs to be fragged ASAP.

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I'm looking for a transcript but here's the CNN version if that's your flavor.

Bin Laden tape: U.S. security depends on policy


Osama bin Laden delivered a new videotaped message in which he told Americans their security does not depend on the president they elect, but on U.S. policy. "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda," bin Laden said in the video aired on the Arabic language network Al-Jazeera.

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[dB]

The FOX flavor is fine with me, I'm just curious about different slants from different sources. (don't know why, it's nothing new)

[showmethebombs]

.......and we still can't find him.

[rocket]

Any luck finding the video or a transcript?

The "American" terror tape and now this. Sounds funny but watch your six. Keep your eyes open for any suspicious activity. Try not to be in a crowd if you don't have to. They will look for a high casuality oportunity. As we know these boys don't play. Be safe out there guys.

[Baketech]

Originally Posted by dB

Bake, where did you see the neutral version?

That was a joke....it's Bin Laden...and it's on Al Kerryzeera, so of course it's against Bush....

[ER]

Originally Posted by rocket

I put the Foxnews link in for more details. This is a non-partisan issue. This guy needs to be fragged ASAP.

Correct - which is why I can get frustrated with people for forgetting 9/11 so quickly. These people want us dead....period. If we don't start taking the threat more seriously we'll get hit again.

[showmethebombs]

Hey I am sure there are many black bag ops going on right now to kill the threat. It is just taking longer than I personally would like it to. Too many people moving at once and you get noticed...simple as that.

We might even have people on the inside...who knows

[sheepofblue]

I am always amazed how much he looks like his caricarature on South Park, one goofy looking dude.

[Baketech]

Originally Posted by showmethebombs

.......and we still can't find him.

We'll find him about a month after Kerredy takes office.....and he'll be a freaking hero....nevermind that our peeps have been working their asses off the whole time...

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The report I saw on Yahoo seemed to indicate that the tape was decidedly anti-Bush. If that's the case, it will be interesting to see if it helps or hurts Kerry.

Potential voter take 1 - "We need Bush because Bin Laden obviously hates and fears Bush more than he does Kerry, and Bin Laden wants Kerry to win because he doesn't think he'll come after terror the way Bush does"

Potential voter take 2 - "We need Kerry because Bin Laden hints that attacks on America will be worse because of what Bush is doing to Arab world"

What will reaction be?

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Looks like he aint seen the light o day in a long, long while

[Cowboy1600]

Do you guys honestly think Bush is any better than bin laden? Bin laden is pure evil. I guess its like fighting fire with fire.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Do you guys honestly think Bush is any better than bin laden? Bin laden is pure evil. I guess its like fighting fire with fire.

cowboy cowboy cowboy Hopefully you jest.

[CBRVFR]

Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Do you guys honestly think Bush is any better than bin laden? Bin laden is pure evil. I guess its like fighting fire with fire.

That statement pretty much invalidates anything you have or will say. You're far less thoughtful than you suppose.

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

That statement pretty much invalidates anything you have or will say. You're far less thoughtful than you suppose.

[Cowboy1600]

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

That statement pretty much invalidates anything you have or will say. You're far less thoughtful than you suppose.

You reckon? So you think Bush is a good guy?

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

You reckon? So you think Bush is a good guy?

Compared to Bin Laden he is a saint. And yes I do, agree or disagree with his policies, I believe his intentions are good. I personally disagree with Kerry as I did with Gore but also believe thier intentions are/were good.

You need to learn to separate political disagreement with personality. I personally think socialism is horrible but have no problem with socialists. However when a man threatens to kill millions anyway he can that is evil. Before you dare to rant about Bush killing people, we have lost more soldiers than we could have since we avoid hurting civilians AND yes even churches and infrastructure! Contrast this with the scum that Bin Laden is and hangs with that intentionally target civilians and yes even kids.
<Sheep Vent over>

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Do you guys honestly think Bush is any better than bin laden? Bin laden is pure evil. I guess its like fighting fire with fire.

[CBRVFR]

Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

You reckon? So you think Bush is a good guy?

That is hardly the point. The point is your inability to differentiate, and the self-aggrandizing pride with which you parade your ignorance.