China vs USA

nomad · 05-29-2005, 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Oh don't sell me short while I try to be polite I think people suck and am likely more arrogant than most

At least slightly woolier than most.

oldfogey · 05-31-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

Hey, Im not saying the Chinese are perfect, but neither is the US, or Aus, England etc etc etc for that matter. Once again tho, comparing the US to China isnt apples with apples. They dont declare themselves to be the pinnacle of humanity and capable of ruling the world and economically, ethically, morally and humanitarily (i made up a word

) superior to everyone else.

Have you ever looked at Chinese (not just Chinese communist) ideology?

luvtolean · 05-31-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy1600

True. I dont think any of them are inherently evil, and that was never my point. What I feel tho is that many people in here feel the US is infallible. Thats the message I get. I also despise the sheer arrogance that many people show in regard to the US's relationships with other countries, cultures and religions. Present company excluded.

That's because you come in here looking to hear that answer.

Baketech · 05-31-2005, 12:09 PM

Cognitive dissonance...

phobiaphobe · 05-31-2005, 12:29 PM

Just so it's clear, the views of a Toronto Liberal do not represent that of all Canadians.

Cowboy1600 · 06-01-2005, 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

That's because you come in here looking to hear that answer.

Wrong. I come in here for yet another aspect on the topics at hand. This isnt the be all and end all im afraid. I gather information from many sources.

nomad · 06-01-2005, 3:13 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Just so it's clear, the views of a Toronto Liberal do not represent that of all Canadians.

Only the majority.

At least until the next election.

Zeeman · 06-01-2005, 7:49 AM

Only the "Sith" deal in absolutes...
Z...

Baketech · 06-01-2005, 7:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeeman

Only the "Sith" deal in absolutes...
Z...

Is that a firm rule...or a grey area....

phobiaphobe · 06-01-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nomad

Only the majority.

At least until the next election.

You're not the majority now nor will you be in the next election. The government you voted for isn't even making the calls. You've got Jack asswipe Layton handing out cash so Mr. Dithers can sit on his throne and feign ignorance to all of the corruption a little while longer. Only in Ontario are people still naive enough to support the Liberals. In the next election The libs are gonna lose all of their seats in Quebec, giving the separatists more power and ****ing all of us for another 20 years or so. They'll probably win another (even smaller) minority so get used to elections every 18 months.

BDA116 · 06-01-2005, 11:52 AM

Phobe, you don't understand. The libs always think they're the majority and that they own every right to every government position. Same thing that's happening here. They've been losing for years now, but can't seem to figure out the fact that they are the minority, and the majority are sick and tired of them. Every election they lose has to be due to some type of mistake.

phobiaphobe · 06-01-2005, 12:01 PM

Well in Canada the situation is a little more complicated. We have a multi-party parliament. Right now there are about 100 Conservatives, 130 Liberals, 50 or so Bloc Quebecois (separatists) 17 NDP (socialist) and a handful of independents. So the liberals have the most seats, but they're still a minority government. The conservatives made 4 non-confidence motions to oust them and won all of them. THe liberals just basically said "those don't count, we'll have a confidence motion on our budget and that will count". THey then proceeeded to climb into bed with the socialists and whore their budget to them to the tune of about 5 billion dollars in order to get 17 more votes. Then they bought out a conservative MP and the independents voted with them, so they've hung onto power for a few more months. They think they have some sort of "divine right to rule" because this is Canada and they're the liberals. The biggest problem is that about a third of our population live in Ontario, where the Liberals somehow can do no wrong. Even while the rest of the country (mostly) votes against them, they stay in power because of one province. Imagine that California had more seats in congress than the rest of the USA combined and you'd basically have the same situation as here. I don't think the Libs have won more than a handful of seats in all of western canada for a few decades, but they still get to dish out our tax dollars. ****