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Old 09-13-2005, 1:45 PM
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bad move
It's too soon to tell. Doesn't seem good though. Ballsy, I will say that.
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Re: Bush claims responsibility for failures.
Pretty brilliant move if you ask me...
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Re: Bush claims responsibility for failures.
Why would he admit guilt where none should be placed? It lets his critics justify their attacks.

Then again, it will help him continue to keep the populace in fear and justify more defense spending.
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About friggin time he owned up to something...


Amazing......
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About friggin time he owned up to something...


Amazing......
but this wasn't even something anyone should be blamed for. The response time was actually very quick. The people who say it was slow are just idiots.
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Why would he admit guilt where none should be placed? It lets his critics justify their attacks.

Then again, it will help him continue to keep the populace in fear and justify more defense spending.
He's not admitting guilt...did you read the article and his quotes...?
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but this wasn't even something anyone should be blamed for. The response time was actually very quick. The people who say it was slow are just idiots.
Local agencies are the first line responders...they are tasked with the 1st 48 hrs...after that FEMA is supposed to step in. bottom line...there were failures at all levels...with FEMA as well...and that lies in the fed's lap. When you consider this was all predicted...repeatedly....the response was a HUGE failure. While Bush did not say HE was responsible, he ackowledged the Fed's failures. That is a big deal...especially from Bush...who hasn't even considered publicly admitting any failures from any fed dept since he was in office.
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He's not admitting guilt...did you read the article and his quotes...?

"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility,"

Am I missing something?
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Local agencies are the first line responders...they are tasked with the 1st 48 hrs...after that FEMA is supposed to step in. bottom line...there were failures at all levels...with FEMA as well...and that lies in the fed's lap. When you consider this was all predicted...repeatedly....the response was a HUGE failure. While Bush did not say HE was responsible, he ackowledged the Fed's failures. That is a big deal...especially from Bush...who hasn't even considered publicly admitting any failures from any fed dept since he was in office.
I wish I had the confidence and boldness to see things so clearly...

It's going to take quite a bit of time, and a lot more information before I can make up my mind and pass judgement in such a fashion.

Consider this...we have been watching a micro view of the total situation...presented as a macro view...and that's not conducive to understanding...
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"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility,"

Am I missing something?
Apparently you are missing the difference between "guilt" and "responsibility"....
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Seems like a nitpick, but I understand your point.
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Local agencies are the first line responders...they are tasked with the 1st 48 hrs...after that FEMA is supposed to step in. bottom line...there were failures at all levels...with FEMA as well...and that lies in the fed's lap. When you consider this was all predicted...repeatedly....the response was a HUGE failure. While Bush did not say HE was responsible, he ackowledged the Fed's failures. That is a big deal...especially from Bush...who hasn't even considered publicly admitting any failures from any fed dept since he was in office.
ok if I tell you that tomorrow a tidal wave is gonna hit CA and reach 20 miles inland will you be ready for when it goes 40 miles inland?

The reason the repsonse time took ONE DAY is because they have to send in assessment crews first then mobilize the supplies and help.
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Apparently you are missing the difference between "guilt" and "responsibility"....
That's a great point.

Since I've watched "A Bug's Life" with my son a million times the past few months, I'm going to quote Hopper; "First rule of leadership: everything is your fault."
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Since I've watched "A Bug's Life" with my son a million times the past few months,...
That's a great movie on 'shrooms. That was a long time ago though.
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Let's see how quickly Nagin and Blanco step up to the plate.

Great move on President Bush's part.

Bring the ****ing blame game to an end and get on with the recovery.
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Bring the ****ing blame game to an end and get on with the recovery.
Exactly. People are too busy placing blame...

Thanks for having a backbone dubya. Kerry would still be having an opinion group polling the public to see whats okay to say next...
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ok if I tell you that tomorrow a tidal wave is gonna hit CA and reach 20 miles inland will you be ready for when it goes 40 miles inland?

The reason the repsonse time took ONE DAY is because they have to send in assessment crews first then mobilize the supplies and help.
We are getting bits and pieces of information...so it may not be pprudent to make pointy judgements...but there was a breakdown in coodinting the response...to what degree ???

as far as the 40 mile inland thing...there was just an exercise last year which predicted exactly what happened recently. Multiple people involved have been all over the media stating the same thing....the "authorities" knew in advance what could happen...and were not prepared for the worst
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He's not admitting guilt...did you read the article and his quotes...?
Ah yes, but how many people will read, analyze and synthesize that article? Headlines are where it's at. Bush just took all of the blame. He can't be re-elected, so it really wasn't that ballsy I guess.
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He can't be re-elected, so it really wasn't that ballsy I guess.
That's what you think. He's already taken most of our rights away so I look for him to change the constitution soon.
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