Paris Rioting

luvtolean · 11-05-2005, 2:01 PM

You know, Bush caught hell about the Katrina rioting from foreigners, and Americans, too apathetic and ignorant to understand how our government works.

I wonder if there'll be public outrage at the constant rioting in Paris and now the 'burbs. Clearly, by their logic, Chirac is the problem, and the world should be calling for his head...right?

BDA116 · 11-05-2005, 2:12 PM

No, the rioting there is Bush's fault too.

Honestly though, it is quite interesting that the frenchies can't get it anywhere near controlled. Their police and armed forces are too scared to do anything about it, and would end up surrendering anyway.
The pussification of that entire continent is starting to bite them in the ass. I for one will continue to enjoy watching it happen.
The pols blame it on radical Islam, but don't have the balls to do a thing about it other than try to capitulate, which has never done anything but make it worse.

Mojave954 · 11-05-2005, 5:24 PM

Let Paris burn.

Baketech · 11-07-2005, 7:28 AM

TEN days and it seems to be picking up steam...

sheepofblue · 11-07-2005, 8:07 AM

So a herd of punks from a bad neighborhood comes to burn your car or house down, do you shoot them? Not if you are French because you turned in your gun so you could be safe

Baketech · 11-07-2005, 8:12 AM

But see, you deserved to have your car burnt because you are rich, and thus perpetuate the inequities in the system...

sheepofblue · 11-07-2005, 8:21 AM

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But see, you deserved to have your car burnt because you are rich, and thus perpetuate the inequities in the system...

I should have known that

phobiaphobe · 11-07-2005, 9:00 AM

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

...sorry

Baketech · 11-07-2005, 9:08 AM

This thread title could use some updating...as it's no longer just in Paris...300 other towns are having troubles as well...

luvtolean · 11-07-2005, 9:11 AM

Just read it's moving to Belgium and Germany as well.

Baketech · 11-07-2005, 9:18 AM

Do they have oil...

luvtolean · 11-07-2005, 9:27 AM

On a serious note, I think we'll see more of this in Europe before it gets better.

They've been opening their borders and getting lots of immigrants. There is still nowhere in Europe that has diversity like the US. (the closest I've seen is in London)

They're dealing with problems we've had, and taken criticism for, for many many years.

Karma's a bitch.

oldfogey · 11-07-2005, 10:17 AM

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Do they have oil...

No, they have inflexible labour markets, high unemployment, higher youth unemployment and even higher youth unemployment among socially disadvantaged groups. 30% unemployment among those groups rioting is not unusual.

They'll probably respond after the riot troops by spending more tax-payers' money on government-sponsored jobs, taxing those with productive jobs more to pay for them. Ho-hum.

phobiaphobe · 11-07-2005, 10:23 AM

I've got a 16 y/o cousin on exchange there... better shoot her an email

luvtolean · 11-07-2005, 10:24 AM

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I've got a 16 y/o cousin on exchange there... better shoot her an email

You sent a cousin to France on exchange? I thought you watched the Simpsons?

oldfogey · 11-07-2005, 10:29 AM

Cousin, cousine.

phobiaphobe · 11-07-2005, 10:51 AM

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You sent a cousin to France on exchange? I thought you watched the Simpsons?

Actually, it's pretty funny you should mention that. When she first went out in August, she got stuck with some real filthy lowlife country yokels there... think Le Deliverance.

They had to write letters and make a lot of phone calls to get her moved to a new host family... a nice suburban physician couple. Her father is probably taking legal action against the company. It was very traumatic for her.

oldfogey · 11-07-2005, 11:39 AM

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archiv...n_affairs.html

Some musing on the causes and attitudes.

sheepofblue · 11-07-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

On a serious note, I think we'll see more of this in Europe before it gets better.

They've been opening their borders and getting lots of immigrants. There is still nowhere in Europe that has diversity like the US. (the closest I've seen is in London)

They're dealing with problems we've had, and taken criticism for, for many many years.

Karma's a bitch.

The difference is most people that come here want to be Americans thus while they frequently bring new ideas into our culture they all so get Americanized. Therefore our diversity is not segregation but integration (unfortunately this is being discouraged by the government in attempts to divide individuals into groups).

oldfogey · 11-07-2005, 11:44 AM

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Actually, it's pretty funny you should mention that. When she first went out in August, she got stuck with some real filthy lowlife country yokels there... think Le Deliverance.

Phobe, sorry to hear your cousin had problems. Perhaps they read your moose reference? Canadians from West of Francophone Canada do have a rural reputation, you know. Your uncle should have made clear she was of an urban disposition, France can be very, well, rural with a capital rrrr.

luvtolean · 11-07-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

The difference is most people that come here want to be Americans thus while they frequently bring new ideas into our culture they all so get Americanized.

I'm not sure I fully agree with you, but I know what you mean.