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12-15-2005, 5:43 PM
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#31 | | Blow me.
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth I've got a great headache remedy. You have the option to take it orally or as a suppository. |
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12-15-2005, 7:19 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mo Noyz Ahmadinejab is a radical who has been pissing off the people of his own country since he took office. From what I understand, this latest little outburst isn't sitting well in the streets of Tehran.
Stay tuned to this one, folks. He already has forces conspiring against him. | Definitely True, but you left out details about his supporters. Ahmadinejab has a somewhat similar situation politically to the former Saddam regime. For example, although the majority of Iraqis were Shiites and weren't exactly with Saddam but he still had his core group of Sunni supporters. I don't see any reason to doubt that Ahmadinejab has a significant following to back him. All powerful political figures have allies and enemies. But you are absolutely right about seeing how this one plays out.
This propaganda technique works both ways. The uncultured and undereducated will bite the bait since they do not have access to outside contact. Much like Saddam placing his picture on every bag of grain at supermarkets to gain support through associating his image with subsistence neccessities. The Iranian moderates are more likely to be educated and opposed to Ahmadinejab's fanatical approach. |
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12-16-2005, 1:46 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Oh no...not the threat of sanctions from the EU... Quote: EU Threatens Sanctions Over Holocaust Flap
By NICHOLAS PAPHITIS, Associated Press Writer
European leaders threatened sanctions against Iran for its president's remarks about Israel and the Holocaust, even as the regime's interior minister said Friday the widely condemned comments were "misunderstood" by Western governments.
Leaders at a European Union summit in Brussels, Belgium, will adopt a statement Friday condemning Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent comments describing the Holocaust as a "myth" and calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."
"These comments are wholly unacceptable and have no place in civilized political debate," the draft statement said.
EU leaders warned Tehran they will review the diplomatic options for possible sanctions because of Iran's recent "provocative political moves." The statement comes days before EU envoys resume talks with Iran on its nuclear program.
Meanwhile, Iran Interior Minister Mostafa Pourmohammadi told The Associated Press that Ahmadinejad's comments were "misunderstood" by the West.
Speaking on the sidelines of an Athens, Greece, immigration conference, Pourmohammadi said: "Actually the case has been misunderstood. (Ahmadinejad) did not mean to raise this matter."
Ahmadinejad "wanted to say that if others harmed the Jewish community and created problems for the Jewish community, they have to pay the price themselves. People like the Palestinian people or other nations should not pay the price (for it).
"A historical incident has occurred. Correct or not correct. We don't want to launch research or carry out historical investigation about it," he said without elaborating.
Ahmadinejad's comments Wednesday drew quick condemnations from Israel, the United States and Europe, which warned he is hurting Iran's position in talks aimed at resolving suspicions about his regime's nuclear program.
Denying the Holocaust — in which 6 million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis — is a crime in several European nations.
In remarks carried live by state television and repeated several times, Ahmadinejad said during a tour of southeastern Iran on Wednesday that if Europeans insist the Holocaust occurred, then they are responsible and should pay the price.
"Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people in Zahedan. "If you committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?
"This is our proposal: If you committed the crime, then give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country," he said.
In October, he provoked an international outcry by calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."
German lawmakers Friday unanimously condemned Ahmadinejad's remarks, urging the Berlin government to keep the pressure on Tehran to change course.
Inside Iran, moderates have called on the Islamic cleric-led regime to rein in the president. Ahmadinejad's election in June sealed the long decline of Iran's reform movement, which had largely dropped the harsh anti-Israeli and anti-U.S. rhetoric of the 1979 Islamic Revolution and sought to build international ties.
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12-16-2005, 3:27 PM
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#34 | | Going into turn one
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth the entire Blue Sheep Nation has also boycotted them...
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12-16-2005, 4:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sheepofblue the entire Blue Sheep Nation has also boycotted them... |  The god of fantasies will condemn Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to playing with himself. |
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12-19-2005, 10:33 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth You guys should read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades.
You'll see what a great guy Muhammed was and also see today's Muslims act just like he did.
It's scary and I now feel that China and North Korea will be no problem compared to hardline Islamists. |
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12-20-2005, 12:27 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Quote: |
The Politically Incorrect Guide
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History lessons from a book with this kind of title aren't highly suggested. |
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12-20-2005, 6:02 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Give it a quick read...full of pretty scary quotes from their "holy" book. |
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12-20-2005, 6:42 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Quote: |
Originally Posted by davef Give it a quick read... |
What other kind of read could I give it?  |
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12-20-2005, 8:06 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Fine, so don't read it. Nanny, nanny boo boo  |
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12-20-2005, 8:15 PM
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Nanny, nanny boo boo | ....stick your head in doo doo.  |
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12-20-2005, 11:15 PM
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| Re: The Holocaust is a myth Give Isreal a tenth of what we spent the first few days of the war and there would be no iran  |
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