Own Burned CDs, get searched

navydevildoc · 06-05-2006, 3:47 PM

Here is a link to a real court case out in Viriginia where a guy got stopped by a cop for an "equipment failure", but then had his car searched because the cop saw CD-Rs in the car, and they had been trained by the recording industry that those indicated he was a music pirate.

http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinio...tx/0250053.txt

He ended up going to jail because they found pot in the car, but only after searching for more "pirated CDs". One more chunk of the 4th ammendment being stripped away...

gthotchkiss · 06-05-2006, 3:52 PM

Man, I thought I had bad luck

Baketech · 06-05-2006, 4:00 PM

Bee moths work great this time of year...

luvtolean · 06-05-2006, 4:19 PM

At least the conviction was overturned on appeal as it rightfully should have been.

What's a bee moth?

LUCIDDREAM57 · 06-05-2006, 4:29 PM

haha, So, let me get this straight, the pistol on the seat is ok and doesn't warrant a search. The cd's however do. Go figure???

cbr99xx · 06-05-2006, 4:35 PM

I prefer catawbas.

esoteric · 06-05-2006, 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

What's a bee moth?

It's a little bit like a henway.

FantasyGod · 06-07-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LUCIDDREAM57

haha, So, let me get this straight, the pistol on the seat is ok and doesn't warrant a search. The cd's however do. Go figure???

No kidding. That has to be the worst.

Baketech · 06-07-2006, 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

What's a bee moth?

Waxworm larvae...excellent panfish bait...

jaim · 06-12-2006, 3:02 AM

WTF are cops doing out there? Aren't there more important things going on than people allegedly stealing music from the internet? Sheesh.

Repeater · 06-12-2006, 3:12 AM

Stupid just plan stupid. what if i had the cops wifes naked pics on those CDs

. that **** is private. he really didn't need to know

Scout · 06-12-2006, 4:07 AM

Some officers use that as probable cause, to effect a search.

It's the "plain view rule", it's common knowledge, and shame on them for not thinking about it. You know they found some dope in the car, and though the media didn't report it, there's a strong chance the driver was stoned. What do stoned drivers do? Run over ****, and laugh. We, as motorcyclists should see this as a good thing that's one less idiot on the road we have to worry about.

Que no?

And marijuana, money and gun. Yeah, lets defend this asshole.

Scout · 06-12-2006, 4:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Repeater

Stupid just plan stupid. what if i had the cops wifes naked pics on those CDs

. that **** is private. he really didn't need to know

That's what saved him. Though most people don't want to look at cops wives (cops girlfiends are another story), that would have been a legitimate use of those Cd's.

The courts ruled correctly in this case, I just don't like it that a dumbass goes about his dumbass ways.

Oh well, in the business you learn you can't win them all, and give a person enough rope....

seamus · 06-12-2006, 6:30 AM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

Here is a link to a real court case out in Viriginia where a guy got stopped by a cop for an "equipment failure", but then had his car searched because the cop saw CD-Rs in the car, and they had been trained by the recording industry that those indicated he was a music pirate.

http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinio...tx/0250053.txt

He ended up going to jail because they found pot in the car, but only after searching for more "pirated CDs". One more chunk of the 4th ammendment being stripped away...

It doesn't say how many CDs were seen, just "several". What if they saw 50-100 CDs, each with the same poorly created labels; ie, 50 Michael Bolton CDs? That would trigger a search in my book.

This could just be poorly worded.

esoteric · 06-12-2006, 10:36 AM

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ie, 50 Michael Bolton CDs?

What if it was a different Michael Bolton?

schnogg · 06-12-2006, 10:38 AM

Did someone say "no-talent ass-clown"?

Baketech · 06-12-2006, 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by seamus

It doesn't say how many CDs were seen, just "several". What if they saw 50-100 CDs, each with the same poorly created labels; ie, 50 Michael Bolton CDs? That would trigger a search in my book.

This could just be poorly worded.

Wow, you really know how to clear a room...

In the future, could you refrain from presenting viable scenarios that might explain the situation until the furball has fully developed?

seamus · 06-12-2006, 7:43 PM

Sorry.

I've always been better at playing devil's advocate than anything else.

edit: If it helps, I think anyone that took the time to copy a Michael Bolton CD deserves jail time.

nhfirefighter13 · 06-12-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

Here is a link to a real court case out in Viriginia where a guy got stopped by a cop for an "equipment failure", but then had his car searched because the cop saw CD-Rs in the car, and they had been trained by the recording industry that those indicated he was a music pirate.

How did said police officer know that they were pirated cds? Is it illegal to make copies of cds that you already own? Is it illegal to make a mix cd from a collection of cds that you already own? Were the cd's in question labeled "pireted music" or possibly "stolen musical entertainment"?
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, this is picture of Chewbacca....

seamus · 06-12-2006, 10:21 PM

See, Bake? NH is doing it too.

nhfirefighter13 · 06-12-2006, 10:46 PM

Scout · 06-13-2006, 1:06 AM

Damn, we need a "stirring the pot" emoticon.

ConqSoft · 06-13-2006, 1:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scout

Damn, we need a "stirring the pot" emoticon.

Scout · 06-13-2006, 1:14 AM

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Yes!!!!