[luvtolean]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Why would you need a gun in bed?

Deranged husbands.

[Hammer]

[Scout]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

For the record, I am not in favor of gun control. I just jumped in to ridicule the idea that everyone needs to protect themselves from a "home invasion".

Phobe - 1st hand, I've had one happen to me. Fortunately (for them), after they busted in the window to my dining area for entry, they understood the universal sound for "get the **** out of my house" - a shotgun racking a round.

Of course, my family stayed safe in the house while I went out to "Investigate". People went to jail that night.

[Scout]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Well we can go on debating this forever, and it won't change anything. You'll continue to arm yourself and I'll continue to not arm myself. One of us will not be afraid to leave the house unarmed.

I like guns. Revolvers especially... I really want a .357. But if and when I buy one, that sucker will stay at the range no way in hell will I have any desire to use it on a human or take it anywhere. Not that I think I need the government to force that decision on me; that's my own personal responsibility.

And, in your defense, two different societies.

I don't know what it is or what causes it, but your society seems to be more even tempered at this point, and more willing to live by the social contract.

You said yourself, the government program of gun confiscation in Canada wasted money and didn't work. Fortunately, they saw the folly and repealed the law, act, or whatever it was.

I will tell you, if you outlaw guns, the only people who will own them (and not by default, but mostly sinister intent) are criminals.

The deterrent in this country is obvious. Look at and compare Washington DC with Texas.

Oh, it is technically a privelage to legally own firearms in this country. Ex-felons are excluded and have that right or privelage taken away.

[N23]

Originally Posted by luvtolean

The only store with no windows broken out. Though the one I remember was a guy.

I think the Rodney King Riots and Katrina disaster are two of the most powerful examples of why I own centerfire, removable magazine firearms.

The other reason of course, is that they're just plain entertaining to shoot.

While I don't pray for any more natural disasters which would require me to defend my home and person from idiots, I do share the idea that firearms are just FUN to blaze away! Die you dirty dangerous coke can! Die!!

[luvtolean]

Originally Posted by Scout

Phobe - 1st hand, I've had one happen to me. Fortunately (for them), after they busted in the window to my dining area for entry, they understood the universal sound for "get the **** out of my house" - a shotgun racking a round.

Funny you mention that. I was just reading some thread on a firearms forum about best weapons for home protection.

A guy put up experiences where him and a neighbor's barn were broken into.

In the first one, he walked out into his barn, racked the slide, and told them not to move. He said they didn't take a breath without asking while waiting for the cops to come arrest them.

The second one, his neighbor had the same thing going on, but his neighbor walked in with a wheelgun. The crooks turned and ran like hell.

Of course, differences in the thieves could make some run, and some not, but I thought it was an interesting comparison.

I don't think the power of that sound can be overestimated, since what we really want to do here is get them out of the house, not kill anyone.

[sheepofblue]

That is due to the misconception that you cannot miss with a shotgun. People think you can miss with a rifle and a shotgun hits everything (reality is that the pattern is much larger than a bullet but not huge in close quarters)

[luvtolean]

Maybe, and that misconception is out there.

It might also be the perfectly correct assumption that nothing is more likely to kill you in one shot at close quarters than a shotgun aimed at center of mass. 00 Buck shoots nine pistol size pieces of lead at once. Though the pattern size in a house will be fairly tight...it's going to completely mess up someone.

And the other correct assumption is that you are far more likely to have better aim with a shoulder fired weapon than a handgun.

[sheepofblue]

Oh and unlike the click of a pistol nothing sounds like a pump being wracked

[navydevildoc]

This video seems rather Apropos to this thread... 2 guys in a truck start harassing a BMW driver in Texas, eventually getting them cornered on a dead end road and threatening them with a baseball bat.

It has a surpise ending.

Watch Video Here

[G-Force Junkie]

Originally Posted by navydevildoc

This video seems rather Apropos to this thread... 2 guys in a truck start harassing a BMW driver in Texas, eventually getting them cornered on a dead end road and threatening them with a baseball bat.

It has a surpise ending.

Watch Video Here

1. No f'ing way thats texas...not with those canadian or Wisconsin accents, eh?!?!

2. I smeall fake all over it.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Purpdust

...Any gun, that is not manufactured exclusively for hunting animals should only be stored at an approved range or gun club where it is locked up...
I realize that any gun rule will not stop criminals form using them and only puts restrictions on the honest law abiding citizens.

I haven't read through this entire thread yet, so my apologies if someone else has already pointed out the incongruity of these two statements of yours. With all due respect for your opinion, what good is locking them up at a range or club going to do, then, if gun laws don't stop criminals from using them?

You lock my defense weapons up at the club, and I'll just put one of my 44 mag hunting revolvers in the nightstand.

[BDA116]

Bad guys run away like little sissies when a gun is pulled back on them.
ABC 4 - Midvale pawn shop owner pulls gun on robbers

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Scout

I don't know what it is or what causes it, but your society seems to be more even tempered at this point...

Aren't small amounts of marijuana legal in Canada?

[phobiaphobe]

Originally Posted by Pete

Aren't small amounts of marijuana legal in Canada?

Not legal, just de-criminalized. We can carry an ounce... Getting caught gets us a fine, but no criminal charges.

[luvtolean]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Not legal, just de-criminalized. We can carry an ounce... Getting caught gets us a fine, but no criminal charges.

An ounce? Feck, that ain't a small amount of weed!

No wonder you guys aren't killin'.

[phobiaphobe]

Originally Posted by luvtolean

An ounce? Feck, that ain't a small amount of weed!

No wonder you guys aren't killin'.

No but plenty of stoned rig pigs operating dangerous equipment.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Guns as self-defense? Seriously when the **** does average Joe really need a gun to defend himself?

Well, let me share a personal experience of mine that might make you think differently. Back some years ago, in the middle of the night as my wife, son, and I were dead asleep, we were awoken by a loud explosion that sounded like a 12 ga being shot in my son's room upstairs. I immediately grabbed my .45 from the nightstand, and yanked my wife with me upstairs where my son was screaming bloody murder (he was about 2 yrs old). All clear upstairs, I left them to check the rest of the house, and then proceeded out the front door and around to the side of the house that the noise had seemed to come from. Wearing nothing but boxer shorts and a handgun at the ready, there I met at least 6 of my neighbors looking up at the power pole that had blown a fuse.

True story.

[ConqSoft]

Were they all half-naked and armed as well?

[Pete]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Not legal, just de-criminalized. We can carry an ounce... Getting caught gets us a fine, but no criminal charges.

I knew there was a reason.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Pete