House passes: Guns Cannot Be Confiscated in Natural Disasters

luvtolean · 08-09-2006, 2:31 PM

This isn't exactly recent news, but it's great news for people who own guns for this exact contingency. I was sickened by the thought I'd have my guns taken when I would most need them after watching the Katrina disaster (which compelled me to buy two guns for this specific scenario).

Senate votes to bar emergency gun confiscation - Yahoo! News

Scout · 08-14-2006, 9:38 AM

Remember the LA RIOTS? Nobody was doing any confiscating then, and though not natural, it was a disaster.

booracer · 08-14-2006, 10:32 AM

good thing they weren't confiscating guns during the LA riot because many of the store owners were able to protect their properties from the rioting a&&holes. Only the criminals would have the guns if they'd actually confiscated law abiding citizens.

nedro · 08-14-2006, 1:41 PM

I still remember the little old Korean Woman standing on the roof of her store...With her AK!

davef · 08-14-2006, 5:44 PM

Great news! But the link doesn't work for me.

navydevildoc · 08-14-2006, 5:45 PM

The tube going to that story got clogged. I will try the Google Tube.

Purpdust · 08-14-2006, 5:56 PM

This sounds almost like the gun registry in Canada to control guns. it took them like 6 years and 1 billion to figure out the criminals don't buy there guns through legal means

Even though I am not a fan of everyone having guns, this just will not work.

sheepofblue · 08-14-2006, 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

This sounds almost like the gun registry in Canada to control guns. it took them like 6 years and 1 billion to figure out the criminals don't buy there guns through legal means

Even though I am not a fan of everyone having guns, this just will not work.

Me neither I think they should keep them from you

luvtolean · 08-14-2006, 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

This sounds almost like the gun registry in Canada to control guns. it took them like 6 years and 1 billion to figure out the criminals don't buy there guns through legal means

Not to mention a significant loss of freedom. Of course, despite the fact they practically took away the avenue for legal gun ownership and it had no effect on crime, Canadians will not be getting that right back.

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Even though I am not a fan of everyone having guns, this just will not work.

Care to take this a step further? What do you mean exactly? Are you in favor of gun control?

luvtolean · 08-14-2006, 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nedro

I still remember the little old Korean Woman standing on the roof of her store...With her AK!

The only store with no windows broken out. Though the one I remember was a guy.

I think the Rodney King Riots and Katrina disaster are two of the most powerful examples of why I own centerfire, removable magazine firearms.

The other reason of course, is that they're just plain entertaining to shoot.

Custom900 · 08-14-2006, 6:39 PM

I plan on keeping my guns. Taking my guns means you are a theif. Theft can result in you getting shot.

What was that you wanted to do again???

Purpdust · 08-14-2006, 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Care to take this a step further? What do you mean exactly? Are you in favor of gun control?

Yes I am in favour of gun control. I do not think that owning one should be your right but a privilege. As much as I hate the goverment interference I feel there should be very strict rules to owning one. (Please keep in mind that I view hunting rifles should be dealt with differently) On top of having strict rules to purchase, the same should apply to purchasing ammo.

IMO
Any gun, that is not manufactured exclusively for hunting animals should only be stored at an approved range or gun club where it is locked up. Not in your bed stand drawer or the closet.

I realize that any gun rule will not stop criminals form using them and only puts restrictions on the honest law abiding citizens. Presently the new government in Canada is changing the sentence structure for gun related violence. The main change is to increase the minimum sentences.

As far as I am concerned, if you are convicted of using a fire arm in any crime, it should be automatic life in prison. (This even would include illegal possession) On top of that if you kill anyone unjustly, you automatic assume that victims financial responsibilities.

I am sick to my stomach with the bull **** that is going on and something has to change.

Flame away

navydevildoc · 08-14-2006, 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I do not think that owning one should be your right but a privilege.
Flame away

I won't flame, it's your right to say your opinion. However, here in the US the 2nd Amendment states rather in a rather kludgy way that bearing arms is a right.

navydevildoc · 08-14-2006, 6:49 PM

Also, has anyone found a new working link? I can't even find the story on Yahoo News.

luvtolean · 08-14-2006, 6:50 PM

No need to flame.

It is literally impossible to cut a line between hunting firearms and "others". Gun grabbers have been working on defining this in exactly this fashion for decades as it is a way to divide gun owners and conquer them.

I personally view hunting firearms (you don't need a gun to get your food in modern society, but a gun is pretty handy for a small woman when a large man breaks into a house) as more of a luxury than those used for "other" purposes.

If I truly believed taking guns away would mean less murders and killings, I would actually be in favor. Though guns bring me great joy, I would still say it was worth it.

But lots of societies through history have worked on weapons bans, and we know with total certainty, they simply do not work.

Purpdust · 08-14-2006, 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

I won't flame, it's your right to say your opinion. However, here in the US the 2nd Amendment states rather in a rather kludgy way that bearing arms is a right.

I realize this but one must understand that as good as the US Constitution and Charter of Rights are

. It is not perfect may at some point may be amended.

phobiaphobe · 08-14-2006, 6:58 PM

I don't believe that we should make it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy guns, but lets look for ways to make it harder for criminals to get them. Fund the RCMP to go after organized crime, catch more smugglers and increase mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes. (already happening here)

sheepofblue · 08-14-2006, 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I realize this but one must understand that as good as the US Constitution and Charter of Rights are

. It is not perfect may at some point may be amended.

stay in Canada (except to visit) I will protect myself, I KNOW how ineficient government is and the odds of them protecting me is zero. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Purpdust · 08-14-2006, 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

No need to flame.

It is literally impossible to cut a line between hunting firearms and "others". Gun grabbers have been working on defining this in exactly this fashion for decades as it is a way to divide gun owners and conquer them.

I personally view hunting firearms (you don't need a gun to get your food in modern society, but a gun is pretty handy for a small woman when a large man breaks into a house) as more of a luxury than those used for "other" purposes.

If I truly believed taking guns away would mean less murders and killings, I would actually be in favor. Though guns bring me great joy, I would still say it was worth it.

But lots of societies through history have worked on weapons bans, and we know with total certainty, they simply do not work.

I agree, but i seems violence and death escalate much faster with guns

It is alittle harder to have an open stabbing in a public place or a drive by stabbing. It is also allot harder for other citizens to protect themselves from guns. (Besides getting a gun yourself that is)

I have no problem you anyone having guns, they should just be kept at the Rage or Club.

luvtolean · 08-14-2006, 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

Also, has anyone found a new working link? I can't even find the story on Yahoo News.

Not to sound too preachy, but if you want to see media anti-gun bias go search for the "Disaster Recivery Personal Protection Act and HR 5013".

All you will get is forums and the NRA. I have no idea what happened to the other stuff, but somehow obscure forums are coming up before any decent "news" outlet.

Here's the NRA report on it.

NRA-ILA :: Releases

Purpdust · 08-14-2006, 7:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

I don't believe that we should make it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy guns, but lets look for ways to make it harder for criminals to get them. Fund the RCMP to go after organized crime, catch more smugglers and increase mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes. (already happening here)

It is already pretty hard in Canada and besides the odd freakout farmer in Sask there does not seem to be gun related violence outside of urban areas.