Coup in Thailand

navydevildoc · 09-19-2006, 1:55 PM

This is exactly why we have the 2nd ammendment. To keep our military from pulling this kind of sorry **** without a fight.

CNN.com - Thai government faces coup attempt - Sep 19, 2006

Purpdust · 09-19-2006, 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

This is exactly why we have the 2nd ammendment. To keep our military from pulling this kind of sorry **** without a fight.

I am not clued in to the political system in Thailand, from what I have read the Democratic Goverment that was in power is accused of corruption. Does anyone know much about the King?

Something tells me is the US Military wanted to over through the government, they would win. Their toys are better than ours.

luvtolean · 09-19-2006, 2:03 PM

I don't understand why the people should be upset?

The PM was only elected in a landslide election, twice, and according to the military, their biggest complaint was that he was trying to modernize administration of the country using modern business management strategies.

Surely that means he should be overthrown?

luvtolean · 09-19-2006, 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I am not clued in to the political system in Thailand, from what I have read the Democratic Goverment that was in power is accused of corruption. Does anyone know much about the King?

ACCUSED. By the military. And even if guilty, this is not how a stable democratic government is run.

Purpdust · 09-19-2006, 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

ACCUSED. By the military. And even if guilty, this is not how a stable democratic government is run.

I agree, there are ways to correct the situation democraticly.

As far as corruption, it's just how things are in Asia. Sure we have it here as well, but atleast in Indonesia it is out there and they do not try to hide it.

luvtolean · 09-19-2006, 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

Something tells me is the US Military wanted to over through the government, they would win. Their toys are better than ours.

There are similar arguments about the sophistication of the US Military meaning civilians can't resist it, or add to it, in the Second Amendment thread I have going.

I find it incredible a generation that's watching/fighting/dying in Iraq, would make this statement.

sheepofblue · 09-19-2006, 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I am not clued in to the political system in Thailand, from what I have read the Democratic Goverment that was in power is accused of corruption. Does anyone know much about the King?

Something tells me is the US Military wanted to over through the government, they would win. Their toys are better than ours.

You vastly underestimate the integrity of our military. If such a thing occured most of the rank and file would side with the citizens, couple that with armed citizens and you would be greatly suprised.

Even in the Thailand case the military is split and an armed populace could easily tip the balance to their favor.

navydevildoc · 09-19-2006, 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

You vastly underestimate the integrity of our military. If such a thing occured most of the rank and file would side with the citizens, couple that with armed citizens and you would be greatly suprised.

Even in the Thailand case the military is split and an armed populace could easily tip the balance to their favor.

I would agree with this. Every Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine pledges to "Uphold and Defend the Constitution of the United States".

sheepofblue · 09-19-2006, 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

I would agree with this. Every Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine pledges to "Uphold and Defend the Constitution of the United States".

and those that I have met very much mean it.

tuffy6969 · 09-19-2006, 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

This is exactly why we have the 2nd ammendment. To keep our military from pulling this kind of sorry **** without a fight.

CNN.com - Thai government faces coup attempt - Sep 19, 2006

Purpdust · 09-19-2006, 4:58 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

There are similar arguments about the sophistication of the US Military meaning civilians can't resist it, or add to it, in the Second Amendment thread I have going.

I find it incredible a generation that's watching/fighting/dying in Iraq, would make this statement.

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

You vastly underestimate the integrity of our military. If such a thing occured most of the rank and file would side with the citizens, couple that with armed citizens and you would be greatly suprised.

Even in the Thailand case the military is split and an armed populace could easily tip the balance to their favor.

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

I would agree with this. Every Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine pledges to "Uphold and Defend the Constitution of the United States".

I realize all that, it was a failed attempt to be funny.

luvtolean · 09-19-2006, 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I realize all that, it was a failed attempt to be funny.

Please be gentle when you remove the hook...

sheepofblue · 09-19-2006, 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Purpdust

I realize all that, it was a failed attempt to be funny.

I would expect nothing more from Mr. Most Improved off the end of the straight '06

(it appears you and Kawboy69 are off the hook as I cannot find the video record of certain 'actions')

Purpdust · 09-19-2006, 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

I would expect nothing more from Mr. Most Improved off the end of the straight '06

(it appears you and Kawboy69 are off the hook as I cannot find the video record of certain 'actions')

Something Happend

I do not recall

Purpdust · 09-19-2006, 5:29 PM

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May 1992: Gen. Suchinda's is forced from power when troops gun down at least 50 pro-democracy demonstrators in Bangkok. In the aftermath of the violence, his appointed prime minister resigns. King Bhumibol Adulyadej intervenes to end demonstrations, and parliament votes to reduce the power of the military in Thai politics.

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As soldiers and armoured vehicles moved through drizzly Bangkok, the military declared a provisional authority loyal to King Bhumibol Adulyadej, calling itself the “Council of Administrative Reform.”

That is strange in '92 tries to reduce the power of military in politics and now seems to be backing the Military in it coup.

Graeme Smith · 11-18-2006, 10:27 AM

The military in Thailand have an alegance to the King as is the case in the UK except it's the Queen, not the prime minister or his democratically voted government.

This is clearly not the case in the US as you have no King, nor history for that matter!

If Thaksin was corrupt which is most certainly the case and ran the country like a CEO but to his own gain (similar to ENRON) , were the military not correct in acting for the King in the interests of the country?

seamus · 11-18-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme Smith

The military in Thailand have an alegance to the King as is the case in the UK except it's the Queen, not the prime minister or his democratically voted government.

This is clearly not the case in the US as you have no King, nor history for that matter!

If Thaksin was corrupt which is most certainly the case and ran the country like a CEO but to his own gain (similar to ENRON) , were the military not correct in acting for the King in the interests of the country?

We had a king but he wasn't worthy of us so we tossed him on his ass and started over.

As for having no history, you really need to get back in those history books, Mr. Smith.

BDA116 · 11-18-2006, 12:33 PM

And what does your moronic little Enron comment have to do with anything?
Learn some fact, jackass.

abtech · 11-18-2006, 6:58 PM

So you hail from ****it, Thailand eh?

nhfirefighter13 · 11-18-2006, 9:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme Smith

This is clearly not the case in the US as you have no King, nor history for that matter!

That's even stupider (yes, I said stupid-ER) than commenting on how a wheel moves when your bike is in neutral while being revved at 11,000rpm.

navydevildoc · 11-19-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme Smith

The military in Thailand have an alegance to the King as is the case in the UK except it's the Queen, not the prime minister or his democratically voted government.

This is clearly not the case in the US as you have no King, nor history for that matter!

You are correct in that we don't have a King... as others have said, we didn't like that system and fixed it.

Our military is rather unique in the world in that we do not pledge allegiance to anyone in the government. We pledge to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I don't know about the other services, but for US Marines the US Constitution is required reading for Privates, the lowest ranking Marine there is.