Obama The New US President

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by MelScrilla While that is a large number black voters make up a very small % of the whole electorate. Black voters usaully go about 90% democrat anyway so this isn't a big jump. The truth is that Obama did very well among the most educated people in the country.

BS,

If the only issue was Iraq and not the economy (helped along by the democraps and the housing market) Obama would have been nothing. If you took McCain's policies and said they were Obama's, they still supported Obama. It was a race election.

[shakey1378]

^spoken like a true resident of the country of texas. quite frankly i hate politics. but i will say when mr clinton was in office i made really good money and when the torch was passed to bush i watched my job go right down the tubes and layoffs all the time...

i think its time for the "democraps" to have a chance to fix whats going on in the usa and 4 years may not be enough, who knows.

as far as the race card "get over it! hes black, big fat hairy deal!!" i voted for him as did many of my peers white, black, asian, and hispanic. its about time someone with a different look and culture than the norm. this will open the door for others ie: female president or other ethnicities in the white house.

its about damn time america is waking up and i honestly feel obama will be a good pres but we will see...

ian,
this is not directed directly at you but i know a good percentage of rednecks who voted for mccain just based on "gun control laws" and they dont care about any of the more important issues like healthcare etc...

[lanbrown]

I made more money under Bush than Clinton. Clinton road what Reagan and the first Bush did. This is why the economy failed UNDER Clinton.

Healthcare; Get a job that has one.

Obama will ne a one term President and nothing more. His whole career he has done nothing; look at his voting record. He stays away from the tough calls.

[scorpi810]

Democrat or republican doesnt make a difference to me; we will see about CHANGE as time goes on. Maybe Obama will make a good president but personally I was for McCain and Palin because just like me she has a child with special needs and we need someone who can put a stop to the bull **** loop holes that insurance has to not cover certain therapies for disorders. Off my soap box.

[bjay51d]

Ian is starting to look suspicious...Keep your eyes peeled secret service.

[roughneckin]

Originally Posted by lanbrown I made more money under Bush than Clinton. Clinton road what Reagan and the first Bush did. This is why the economy failed UNDER Clinton.

Check out the numbers before and after Clinton. They speak for themself.

Clinton-Gore Administration Accomplishments: 1993 - 2000

[bettingpython]

I voted on 2nd ammendment rights, right to life and the fact that we currently have troops involved in combat around the world. Like I said my entire state rejected president panty waist.

People made good money during clintons presidency because he inherited a growing economy that had been turned around by prsident Reagen and Bush senior. I didn't like Junior but my candidate did'nt make it through the primaries against him.

I hope he doesn't manage to do anymore harm than Bush jr. Even if he is mediocre he'll do a better job, he's weak on foreign policy and I expect a major terrorist attack some time during this term.

Reagan Administration Accomplishments 1981-1989 — The Forerunner

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by roughneckin Check out the numbers before and after Clinton. They speak for themself. Clinton-Gore Administration Accomplishments: 1993 - 2000

He is given credit for what he had nothing to do with. The economy went to the crapper at the end of his term. Explain that. 1999 is when the economy was going down.

Originally Posted by bettingpython he's weak on foreign policy and I expect a major terrorist attack some time during this term.

I expect more than one and each there will be no response back from us. He will make us an even bigger target.

[dicknose]

Originally Posted by cherd So Bigdaddy, out of curiosity. If a black person (aboriginal) were to be elected prime minister of Australia, do you think that the racial tension would be serious?

Not really.

But its also not a huge prospect, aboriginals are a very small percentage of the population. They are also a tiny percentage of the current Parliament. We have had one (minor) party that had an aboriginal leader.

A more likely scenario would be an asian leader, being a much bigger percentage of the population.

And I do think some people would have a problem with either situation, but I dont think it would be widespread or that bad that we would be talking attempts on their life.
We arent without racial/religious problems. Certainly a muslim would have trouble getting to the top of politics (but we do have a reasonable muslim population)

[dr256]

Originally Posted by bettingpython The best qualified candidate for a job or eductional position should always be the one selected regardless of race or gender, thus yes I oppose positive discrimination.

Agree with that, although we have found in the UK, our 'establishment' is very good at overlooking this 'best candidate' for someone who came from the same school / university / family / political standpoint etc.

[deez]

Originally Posted by lanbrown He is given credit for what he had nothing to do with. The economy went to the crapper at the end of his term. Explain that. 1999 is when the economy was going down. I expect more than one and each there will be no response back from us. He will make us an even bigger target.

You are at war on multiple sites glorifying the black vote during this Presidential election. You are right wing, and self professed Republican, that much is a given, but chill out a little. The election is over, there is nothing you can do about it so settle down, and give the man a chance. As bad as YOU think he is, it's going to be damn hard for him to do worse that W.

And saying Clinton had nothing to do with the good Economy in the 90's is like saying W. had nothing to do with the Iraq war. I really wish you could call a spade a spade instead of always with the right wing, Republican mindset. That mindset is exactly why the GOP lost the election. Come back to reality and quit hating the Blues so much. The Reds aren't any better. The Republican party over the last 8 years (congress and Bush and his administration) have increased spending, increased government, **** on the Constitution, everything that party is supposed to be against. Left doesn't work, and from the past 8 years, the right doesn't work. The country works best in the center, not right, not left, but in the center. Sooner or later you and every other Republican is going to have to understand that centrist mentality. Until we get back in the center, we will not unite, continue to be divided, and continue to be in the **** shape we are in now. I don't like the right wing mentality or the extreme left...I wish people would get off their bullshit and come to the center so we can move forward. And I think any self professed Right Winger should bitch first at their own party before bitching at the other. W. is still President, and has a little over 3 months left during his term to **** something else up royally. Everyone cross their fingers.

[dr256]

Hi Deez,
Not picking you up on the above just making an observation...

...in the UK our politics has been moving ever closer to the centre for a while now. To the point where both Conservative and Labour share policies but still bitch about which variant of the policy is best. The danger of both sides moving to the centre is a lack of any real opposition in the houses of parliament. (insert congress and senate) Which in the end is not good for the people as it makes it very hard to get a bad government out when you are effectively voting for the same policies whichever way you vote!

[shakey1378]

well put deez, i agree there will always be good points on both sides of the fence and compromise will be key to pulling this country out of the hole its in...

[nedro]

Originally Posted by lanbrown BS, If the only issue was Iraq and not the economy (helped along by the democraps and the housing market) Obama would have been nothing. If you took McCain's policies and said they were Obama's, they still supported Obama. It was a race election.

So now the Democrats own the banks?
It's getting even deeper. Waders are almost flooded...

[BigBassTurd]

I would never voluntarily pay for someone elses health care. Like I give a crap about somebody who has never educated or made anything of thierselves. Screw welafare and screw free health care. Get a job and support your own damn family. If you can't, get your tubes tied or your boys snipped because I do not want to support your kids or anymore you squeeze out.

Sorry about the rant but I'm tired of seeing Cadillac Escalades with 24" rims roll up to the WIC office to collect my hard earned money. While I sacrafice and drive an old car, so my kids have food for thier bellies. Shows were thier prioroties are. Damn those are some nice rims you got, to bad you can't even afford to feed your own kids.

And it's only going to get worse with Obama as president.

[FB1000inPA]

BBT, I see your frustration. I do agree to some point with you. However, sometimes people don't have the chance to get out of missery themselves.

But, some people are just plain lazy and want everything handed to them.
Let's see what happens when some find out that the .gov will not send them checks to help with their bills.

[bjay51d]

Originally Posted by BigBassTurd I would never voluntarily pay for someone elses health care. Like I give a crap about somebody who has never educated or made anything of thierselves. Screw welafare and screw free health care. Get a job and support your own damn family. If you can't, get your tubes tied or your boys snipped because I do not want to support your kids or anymore you squeeze out. Sorry about the rant but I'm tired of seeing Cadillac Escalades with 24" rims roll up to the WIC office to collect my hard earned money. While I sacrafice and drive an old car, so my kids have food for thier bellies. Shows were thier prioroties are. Damn those are some nice rims you got, to bad you can't even afford to feed your own kids. And it's only going to get worse with Obama as president.

So Ws war mustve drove you insane then.We are paying with blood & money for these peoples welfare.And yet you were willing to vote mcCain in who wants to keep our troops overthere.Take care of home before you take care of others

[ozerionblade]

The only reason that our current Aussie PM got elected is cause he appealed to the red blooded males love of a good time by "letting slip" he once entered a strip club whilst O/S.
Really it's the only way Labour in this country can get elected, Bob Hawke sculling a Yard glass at the cricket in a Guiness World Record time, Paul Keating going off his rocker at doll bludger protesters and Kevin Rudd (KRUDD) going to the strippers.
The Liberal party ran the country well under John Howard, **** they even employed our military (me included) to go overseas and do our job for the first time in 10 years.
But the Labour party sure know how to have fun as the country's welfare slides south.
Now where did i put that application to become a politician ??

[BigBassTurd]

Honestly why do we protect everybody? Why should we spend all our money and put ourselves in such a debt. Everybody seems to dislike America so let them fend for themselves. Keep our nose out of everybodies buisness, fine we will. Don't come crying to us that your country is get invaded or over run buy radicals. It's not our problem it's yours ! Hell turn it to a glass parking lot for all I care.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by deez You are at war on multiple sites glorifying the black vote during this Presidential election. You are right wing, and self professed Republican, that much is a given, but chill out a little. The election is over, there is nothing you can do about it so settle down, and give the man a chance. As bad as YOU think he is, it's going to be damn hard for him to do worse that W. And saying Clinton had nothing to do with the good Economy in the 90's is like saying W. had nothing to do with the Iraq war. I really wish you could call a spade a spade instead of always with the right wing, Republican mindset. That mindset is exactly why the GOP lost the election. Come back to reality and quit hating the Blues so much. The Reds aren't any better. The Republican party over the last 8 years (congress and Bush and his administration) have increased spending, increased government, **** on the Constitution, everything that party is supposed to be against. Left doesn't work, and from the past 8 years, the right doesn't work. The country works best in the center, not right, not left, but in the center. Sooner or later you and every other Republican is going to have to understand that centrist mentality. Until we get back in the center, we will not unite, continue to be divided, and continue to be in the **** shape we are in now. I don't like the right wing mentality or the extreme left...I wish people would get off their bullshit and come to the center so we can move forward. And I think any self professed Right Winger should bitch first at their own party before bitching at the other. W. is still President, and has a little over 3 months left during his term to **** something else up royally. Everyone cross their fingers.

Clinton had nothing to do with it. The economy was turing around when he was taking office. How did he have anything to do with it? It took ages to get the economy to turn around; you can thank Carter. Obama will be just like Carter.

Obama has lied many times over. He doesn't take a stand on issues. How many times has he voted "present" and when asked about it, he said that is what most were voting. He ran a platform of change, but his actions don't reflect it.

Just wait until the 15th and when his sister finally releases the records, you will see who he really is.

It won't be long until you see what was in his closet he didn't want people to know.

I cannot wait for him to speak without a teleprompter. People laugh at Bush, just wait. He will be Porky Pig.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by nedro So now the Democrats own the banks? It's getting even deeper. Waders are almost flooded...

Take Fannie and Freddit; the democrats wanted them as they were right before the collapse. The republicans wanted them to have more cash to back the financing up. The banks bought these bad mortgages because thanks to Fannie and Freddie. You can thank the democrats for the banking issue. So yes, the democrats were in the pocket of Fannie and Freddie and screwed the country.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by FB1000inPA BBT, I see your frustration. I do agree to some point with you. However, sometimes people don't have the chance to get out of missery themselves. But, some people are just plain lazy and want everything handed to them. Let's see what happens when some find out that the .gov will not send them checks to help with their bills.

There is an easy solution. You get a welfare check, you will be reporting for work. There are plenty of highways, parks, etc. that can be cleaned up. The prisoners don't go to all of the places, so make the people on welfare. make the work hard and boring and see how long they stay on it. Also, if you are on it and have another kid, you are now off of it. Those that say the gov't cannot prevent someone from having a kid are correct. The gov't doesn't have to provide you a check either. Take the terms and conditions or they don't get a check.

[Doomwitha929]

Ian you are my hero

[bjay51d]

Originally Posted by lanbrown There is an easy solution. You get a welfare check, you will be reporting for work. There are plenty of highways, parks, etc. that can be cleaned up. The prisoners don't go to all of the places, so make the people on welfare. make the work hard and boring and see how long they stay on it. Also, if you are on it and have another kid, you are now off of it. Those that say the gov't cannot prevent someone from having a kid are correct. The gov't doesn't have to provide you a check either. Take the terms and conditions or they don't get a check.

agreed

[.OrgOwner]

Originally Posted by lanbrown There is an easy solution. You get a welfare check, you will be reporting for work. There are plenty of highways, parks, etc. that can be cleaned up. The prisoners don't go to all of the places, so make the people on welfare. make the work hard and boring and see how long they stay on it. Also, if you are on it and have another kid, you are now off of it. Those that say the gov't cannot prevent someone from having a kid are correct. The gov't doesn't have to provide you a check either. Take the terms and conditions or they don't get a check.

At the very least. But how about making them more productive in manufacturing for example?

[bjay51d]

Originally Posted by lanbrown Take Fannie and Freddit; the democrats wanted them as they were right before the collapse. The republicans wanted them to have more cash to back the financing up. The banks bought these bad mortgages because thanks to Fannie and Freddie. You can thank the democrats for the banking issue. So yes, the democrats were in the pocket of Fannie and Freddie and screwed the country.

McCain was in bed with Freddie also so you cant get that off.
The Raw Story | Deeper ties between Team McCain, Freddie Mac

[lanbrown]

The just shows that both sides had ties. All politicians are crooks. Look for the youtube video showing the democrats defending Fannie and Freddie and not wanting more regulation for them.

[lanbrown]

My support for Obama.

[dicknose]

Originally Posted by BigBassTurd Hell turn it to a glass parking lot for all I care.

Thats the american spirit we know and love!