Obama The New US President

Bigdaddy75 · 11-04-2008, 11:19 PM

From here in Australia they are calling the US election, they are also making a point of mentioning the threat from the radical groups within the US that might try to "interfere" with the first black president. How real is that threat?

Maholli · 11-04-2008, 11:26 PM

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How real is that threat?

Obama has it, but really as far as his safety there isn't much of a "real" threat, but thats not to say there isn't any threats...

Bigdaddy75 · 11-05-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Maholli

Obama has it, but really as far as his safety there isn't much of a "real" threat, but thats not to say there isn't any threats...

I guess when you think about it Bush is about as unpopular as they come and they have managed to look after him to this point in time.

lanbrown · 11-05-2008, 12:23 AM

I believe the count is up to three attempts; at least three they have stated. There could be ones they won't talk about.

rokitt51 · 11-05-2008, 12:25 AM

The threats are real. Very real. But hey, i hope that nothing happens to the man. Like he said, TIME FOR A CHANGE.

WyoJames · 11-05-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rokitt51

The threats are real. Very real. But hey, i hope that nothing happens to the man. Like he said, TIME FOR A CHANGE.

Maholli · 11-05-2008, 12:41 AM

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I guess when you think about it Bush is about as unpopular as they come and they have managed to look after him to this point in time.

Isn't that the truth.. Yeah the security with technology these days would make it really hard for anyone to really carry out anything that would have a chance..

cherd · 11-05-2008, 12:53 AM

Bush is a horrible president. But the type of people that realize Bush makes bad decisions are reasonable people, not the type of people that decide to assassinate someone. Racists are not reasonable people. Unfortunately, the ability of some nobody to do real damage is far easier than most people think. A good example is a handful of guys bringing down the twin towers with nothing more than box knives. All you need is someone crazy enough to try, and not fearful of the consequences. I believe the threat is real.

So Bigdaddy, out of curiosity. If a black person (aboriginal) were to be elected prime minister of Australia, do you think that the racial tension would be serious?

Seanbaker68 · 11-05-2008, 12:55 AM

Bigdaddy75 you got a extra couch I could crash on? I think I am gonna have to move now lol

Bigdaddy75 · 11-05-2008, 1:02 AM

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So Bigdaddy, out of curiosity. If a black person (aboriginal) were to be elected prime minister of Australia, do you think that the racial tension would be serious?

Not in Australia no, while we have our share of racism here I think it is a very different situation to the USA. And I have lived and worked in the US so I have first hand experience with both countries.

lanbrown · 11-05-2008, 1:03 AM

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So Bigdaddy, out of curiosity. If a black person (aboriginal) were to be elected prime minister of Australia, do you think that the racial tension would be serious?

Did you see some of the polls? Based on exit polls, 92% of the black voters in some areas voted for Obama.

Bigdaddy75 · 11-05-2008, 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Seanbaker68

Bigdaddy75 you got a extra couch I could crash on? I think I am gonna have to move now lol

I don't think you would like the bunch of clowns we have in charge here right now, we elected a bunch of fools for the sake of change and now they are busy spending up our countries budget surplus that was created by the previous government that was not afraid to make the tough decisions. Don't even get me started on the ear picking wax eating Robin Hood wannabe we have in charge right now...

cherd · 11-05-2008, 1:28 AM

Budget surplus?? Whats that?? Australia must be stranger than I thought!

dr256 · 11-05-2008, 7:20 AM

A friend of mine joked this morning;
Everybody woke up in a safer world this morning. Except for Obama!

There are obviously quite a large number of white supremacists in the US, its a big country so no surprise there are a number of radicals on any side of the proverbial fence.
Someone will try and have a pop - there's always one - and I can think of many presidents who have had some threat of assassination at sometime during their tenure...Is the threat any better or worse to Obama?

Probably not.

bettingpython · 11-05-2008, 9:22 AM

There's no more white supremesits in the US than there are black supremesits, the majority of our nation disagrees with the aryan kooks me included. It's unfortunate that they are the loonies that crawl out of the woodwork.

We've had four president's assasinated, several have had attempts on their lives. You can please some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time. I voiced my opinion and voted. It's over and done with I just hope we as a nation survive this presidency.

Because of social policies we just focus on the ignorant inbred white minority.

You don't get to hear about the gang related violence nearly as often that occurs far more often that is ethnically motivated and performed by non-white gangs against white people for the very same reason just because theyr'e a different color.

I'm an equal oppurtunity hater, race or gender doesn't matter.

denzee · 11-05-2008, 9:29 AM

You can bet Obama's security will be stepped up considerably. On the other hand, I'm sure enough people wanted to see George W popped too! I don't know if there has been another president hated so much. Certainly not all deserved and not by me.

denzee · 11-05-2008, 9:39 AM

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I'm an equal oppurtunity hater, race or gender doesn't matter.

That's funny but wouldn't it be better to be an equal opportunity
Lover??? (in the like everybody sense)

FB1000inPA · 11-05-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddy75

From here in Australia they are calling the US election, they are also making a point of mentioning the threat from the radical groups within the US that might try to "interfere" with the first black president. How real is that threat?

I didn't vote for Obama. Can I see him getting killed? Yes. In a car accident, from an allergic reaction to shell fish, etc...
Otherwise, no. It still would be murder in my books.

madkaw · 11-05-2008, 10:37 AM

My philosophy is, "the greater a president the bigger the risks of assassination attempt"
Maybe Bush knew this and to ensure his safety figured he should be a really crappy prez.

And if Obama has any party to be fearful of it certainly isn't the White Supremicists or the Klan clowns.

MelScrilla · 11-05-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lanbrown

Did you see some of the polls? Based on exit polls, 92% of the black voters in some areas voted for Obama.

While that is a large number black voters make up a very small % of the whole electorate. Black voters usaully go about 90% democrat anyway so this isn't a big jump. The truth is that Obama did very well among the most educated people in the country.

BALDGONZO · 11-05-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bettingpython

There's no more white supremesits in the US than there are black supremesits, the majority of our nation disagrees with the aryan kooks me included. It's unfortunate that they are the loonies that crawl out of the woodwork.

We've had four president's assasinated, several have had attempts on their lives. You can please some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time. I voiced my opinion and voted. It's over and done with I just hope we as a nation survive this presidency.

Because of social policies we just focus on the ignorant inbred white minority.

You don't get to hear about the gang related violence nearly as often that occurs far more often that is ethnically motivated and performed by non-white gangs against white people for the very same reason just because theyr'e a different color.

I'm an equal oppurtunity hater, race or gender doesn't matter.

Well said bettingpython. I could not agree more.

One should never hate someone for who they are. One really must get to know the person first before you can truly, truly hate that person!

dr256 · 11-05-2008, 11:42 AM

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I'm an equal oppurtunity hater, race or gender doesn't matter.

Are you saying you are: against equal opportunities or against positive discrimination?

FB1000inPA · 11-05-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MelScrilla

While that is a large number black voters make up a very small % of the whole electorate. Black voters usaully go about 90% democrat anyway so this isn't a big jump. The truth is that Obama did very well among the most educated people in the country.

I read 70% of educated people voted for McCain while 98% of people with no post study degrees voted for Obama.
Also, Obama got the majority of the Hispanic votes.

BALDGONZO · 11-05-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MelScrilla

While that is a large number black voters make up a very small % of the whole electorate. Black voters usaully go about 90% democrat anyway so this isn't a big jump. The truth is that Obama did very well among the most educated people in the country.

Your right, they did ask my education background when I voted. All those rich uneducated idiots voting for McCain. All those smart people needing a government had out voting for Obama.

nedro · 11-05-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Maholli

Isn't that the truth.. Yeah the security with technology these days would make it really hard for anyone to really carry out anything that would have a chance..

I don't think that is true at all. I think that the biggest factor here is that the type of idiot who would try this sort of thing for the reason people are speaking about is most likely too stupid to carry it out. Not the other way around.

nedro · 11-05-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by denzee

You can bet Obama's security will be stepped up considerably. On the other hand, I'm sure enough people wanted to see George W popped too! I don't know if there has been another president hated so much. Certainly not all deserved and not by me.

There is a huge difference between those that want harm twards W, and those twards Obama.
The ones wanting harm on Bush are hard working family people. The ones wanting harm twards Obama are radical idiots.
The radical idiot might do something stupid.
The family person just wants to survive and hopefully prosper one day.

FB1000inPA · 11-05-2008, 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nedro

There is a huge difference between those that want harm twards W, and those twards Obama.
The ones wanting harm on Bush are hard working family people. The ones wanting harm twards Obama are radical idiots.
The radical idiot might do something stupid.
The family person just wants to survive and hopefully prosper one day.

Why is it not the other way around? What makes you think that I am not a hardworking family man just because I voted for McCain?

nedro · 11-05-2008, 2:13 PM

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Why is it not the other way around? What makes you think that I am not a hardworking family man just because I voted for McCain?

My point was, although I maybe wrong about this, that you personally wouldn't go out and kill the pres because he is Black. It would take an idiot to try to carry it out. The proof is the multiple attempts on Obama's life even before being elected. I don't think that happened with W.

FB1000inPA · 11-05-2008, 2:20 PM

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My point was, although I maybe wrong about this, that you personally wouldn't go out and kill the pres because he is Black.

Reading your reply I am asking two questions:

Are you wondering if I personally would kill a black president?
Frankly, I got a big laugh about that.

Are you implying that most if not all Reps are racists?
That's a somewhat strange assumption.

bettingpython · 11-05-2008, 2:21 PM

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That's funny but wouldn't it be better to be an equal opportunity
Lover??? (in the like everybody sense)

No love, trust and respect are earned, my demeanor towards starngers is at best neutral and in general more wary than trusting.

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Are you saying you are: against equal opportunities or against positive discrimination?

I believe you are referring to what we call affirmative action when you use the term positive discrimination. The best qualified candidate for a job or eductional position should always be the one selected regardless of race or gender, thus yes I oppose positive discrimination.

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