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Old 04-21-2004, 5:21 PM
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in God and why?

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I do, pray everyday my man. Why? Because I'd be lost without 'em. He has hooked me up, and taken care of me for a while now. If you pray, do his will, etc, then you get hooked up. I have had more prayers answered than the other way around, I believe God speaks to me and guides me. Don't know what else to tell ya. Doesn't mean I'm the model Christian, not at all. But I do try, succeed at some stuff, fail at others. But if he knows you are down and would die for 'em, IMHO that is all that is required. That and you actually make an effort to change, even if you really don't.
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Re: who believes

I do.
Why? Very personal, but I have had solid witness that God exists.
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Re: who believes

Boy, what a BAD subject to talk about. Why don't we just start a thread about abortion or the death penalty?

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Boy, what a BAD subject to talk about. Why don't we just start a thread about abortion or the death penalty?

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Those would probably belong in the Politics area, as this is the Religion area.
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Re: who believes

Is this a new SIG?

I believe in God. Why is a tough question to answer...it seems to seek a convincing argument like physical proof or something. But you probably won't find Him that way. I guess I'd just sum it up by saying I read the Bible and believe what it says. There have also been some personal experiences...

To paraphrase the Bible, if you seek Him you will find Him.
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in God and why?
Many reasons, but they're all MY reasons. I believe each person has the faith needed to believe and is called to be a believer. It is a personal descision for a relationship between you and God which only God can work out with you. As a Christian, the only thing I am called to do is to be a witness for what He has done in my life. I believe Jesus built the bridge with His perfect life and His sacrificial death. Because He died taking our place, we can live with Him in eternity.

For dealing with technical Bible and scientific issues from a Christian perspective this is a good place to explore:
http://www.reasons.org/index.shtml
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no ****. here we go. this will be a million page thread of bitching. i will input my thoughts on the bible and how its a load of **** later.




j/k, trying to stir the pot
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Re: who believes

after re-reading the title, i guess this isnt a debate, you asked why you belelve and if you do, not why dont you. my bad.
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For dealing with technical Bible and scientific issues from a Christian perspective this is a good place to explore:
http://www.reasons.org/index.shtml

That site is so biased. They pretty much dismiss very successful scietific studies by offering nothing but anecdotal evidence. I see they claim to have proven that the universe has a finite age "beyond a reasonable doubt." Too bad they couldn't let Einstein in on that one, He may have been interested. One of the longest debated topics in history and they've proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.....what a complete load of crap.....IMHO

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Re: who believes

Wow...I was surprised (and glad) to see you ask this, since you've usually replied sarcastically to my God-responses in the past. I had signed out of the site to spend more time working again, but I signed back in for this.

I guess first off, independent of all the different religions and faiths, I think it's much more difficult to believe that everything you see around you is simply an accident. I think it takes much more faith to believe that we're here as a result of a series of random events and evolutions then it does to believe that we were created. Once you can accept that, then I suppose the debate can come about which faith is true.
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That site is so biased. They pretty much dismiss very successful scietific studies by offering nothing but anecdotal evidence. I see they claim to have proven that the universe has a finite age "beyond a reasonable doubt." Too bad they couldn't let Einstein in on that one, He may have been interested. One of the longest debated topics in history and they've proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.....what a complete load of crap.....IMHO
I'm kinda confused by your reply. Light is a constant, thats part of E=MCsquare...this is not a strictly religious view, but a scientific theory that RTB holds as NOT in conflict with the Bible...many secular scientists and Theists believe the universe can be aged by the observation of expansion and the speed of light.
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Re: who believes

There is a God and he is a man. Why else do you think women look so good naked?

He also has a sense of humor.....Lets take Stegen for example.
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Re: who believes

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I do, pray everyday my man. Why? Because I'd be lost without 'em. He has hooked me up, and taken care of me for a while now. If you pray, do his will, etc, then you get hooked up. I have had more prayers answered than the other way around, I believe God speaks to me and guides me. Don't know what else to tell ya. Doesn't mean I'm the model Christian, not at all. But I do try, succeed at some stuff, fail at others. But if he knows you are down and would die for 'em, IMHO that is all that is required. That and you actually make an effort to change, even if you really don't.
Wow, you summed it up pretty well booth and aside from me being less of a model Christian, I can't make what you said sound any better for myself.

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Re: who believes

Why do you ask specifically about God? Why not "a" god? What about Budha? Allah? Zeus? Odin? I've been interested in why people tend to put their faith in the religion with which the are most familiar through family, upbringing, surrounded by, etc.

I can't and won't deny the existance of a god but I have a hard time buying into any religion on the basis of familiarity. I don't even know what half the world believes in so how can I say they are wrong?

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I do...no explanation required.
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I'm kinda confused by your reply. Light is a constant, thats part of E=MCsquare...this is not a strictly religious view, but a scientific theory that RTB holds as NOT in conflict with the Bible...many secular scientists and Theists believe the universe can be aged by the observation of expansion and the speed of light.
Oh, I agree that the universe may have a finite age, but claiming to have proven it beyond a resonable doubt is ridiculous. Maybe that was just a bad example, but it seems that they take theories that seem to conflict with the bible and just dismiss them very easily. They site such an abstract study to contest evolution- that robot study. Yet they fail to mention the vast amount of studies that have simulated evolution.
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Why do you ask specifically about God? Why not "a" god? What about Budha? Allah? Zeus? Odin? I've been interested in why people tend to put their faith in the religion with which the are most familiar through family, upbringing, surrounded by, etc.

I can't and won't deny the existance of a god but I have a hard time buying into any religion on the basis of familiarity. I don't even know what half the world believes in so how can I say they are wrong?

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What about Budha?
He was a god?
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Re: who believes

I do.

Like others have said, it is more of a personal thing with me too. I know we are supposed to spread the word and tell others about what Jesus has done, but I can get too emotional sometimes when I tell my story and the difference he has made in my life.

I really don’t care what anyone thinks; it's just a personal relationship that it is hard to explain I guess.

I’m NO model Christian; I have fallen WAY short of what I need to do as a "Christ" like human being.

I'm not a Bible thumper but it is nice to see that others share a belief in the same God I do.
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He was a god?
I didn't know for certain until you asked the question but a quick Google leads me to believe he is the "Son-of-a-God" which makes him also a God. Apparently he is son of Soma the Hindu Moon God (??) and Budha is the Diety of Monday and considered "Mercury" (??)

Like I said, I have no idea about the religions that exist out there.
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I didn't know for certain until you asked the question but a quick Google leads me to believe he is the "Son-of-a-God" which makes him also a God. Apparently he is son of Soma the Hindu Moon God (??) and Budha is the Diety of Monday and considered "Mercury" (??)

Like I said, I have no idea about the religions that exist out there.
Actually, it's all pretty sketchy from everything I've ever read about him. But most texts that I read in the past stated that he was a man. A prince to be exact.

It's kind of funny because most traditional praticioners look at him as an "enlightened one". But not as an immortal.

But hey, I'm no expert on this either, I just found your statement to be interesting.

Check out this site for some interesting tidbits if you're interested.
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This site lists Buddha and Budha as two different entries, both are Gods in their definitions (Buddha descending from heaven and becoming man at birth and Budha the son of Soma.)

http://www.pantheon.org/areas/mythol.../articles.html
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No...and I'll keep the "why" to myself in the interest of keeping endless debates about religion to a minimum. Carry on with your praying and whatnot.
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