Proof of the Creator..

phobiaphobe · 02-20-2006, 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gr0undz3r0

I have a small group of people that I sorta lead ...

Do you have a "compound"?

BDA116 · 02-20-2006, 9:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

no Powder blue is the crayon thats stuck up my nose and into my brain

I thought that reference might take a bit longer. Boy was I wrong.

phobiaphobe · 02-20-2006, 9:09 PM

BTW RE you've missed 2 "Christpuncher" references in the last 2 days. Get your sh!t together.

Mojave954 · 02-20-2006, 9:23 PM

I honestly could care less who you praise, worship or, whatever else it is. Just keep it to yourself and don't oppress it upon others. Especially me. To each their own, what makes ya happy and or floats your boat just keep it in your boat.

CBR929RE · 02-20-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I thought that reference might take a bit longer. Boy was I wrong.

Simpsons references rarely make it by me.

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BTW RE you've missed 2 "Christpuncher" references in the last 2 days. Get your sh!t together.

haven't been on much in the past few days. and to be honest with you I don't know where that comes from.

Custom900 · 02-20-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojave954

I honestly could care less who you praise, worship or, whatever else it is. Just keep it to yourself and don't oppress it upon others. Especially me. To each their own, what makes ya happy and or floats your boat just keep it in your boat.

Not to offend you or sound rude, but if this is your opinion why are you looking and commenting in the religious section?
This is a portion of the site that allows us to express and debate our opinions, religious ideas, and beliefs. Guess what? This is where we get into each other's boats.

CBR929RE · 02-20-2006, 10:30 PM

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This is where we get into each other's boats.

my feelings are the same as Mojave's. The way I see it is this is just the pier where we can all talk to each other from our own respective boats. Just becuse we don't believe doesn't mean we aren't open to hearing why others believe what they do. You can tell us your beliefs without pushing them on us (which has been done so far and I appreciate that)

Custom900 · 02-20-2006, 10:54 PM

It would be ignorant for people to try and push the beliefs of one onto another. Wars have begun over this. Myself - I believe in placing well documented evidence before a person and allow them to use the grey matter between their ears.

I am a Christian, that's evident. I would never sacrifice my reputation or friendship over a forceful display of religion or anything else. Force turns people away.

Have I been guitly of what I claim. I can't say, but I would hope not. If I were to see myself trying to cram my beliefs down someone's throat hopefully I would be allowed to see it.

Even Jesus was sensitive to this. You cannot force people to believe. We all have a free will. When Jesus sent the Disciples out to minister He told them to leave if they didn't want to listen. Shake the dust from your feet and keep moving.

Scout · 02-20-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

CBR929RE is a poopyhead. Oh, and he likes to write in crayon. Powder blue color.

****! That is the 3rd funniest thing I've read on here today!

phobiaphobe · 02-21-2006, 1:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

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haven't been on much in the past few days. and to be honest with you I don't know where that comes from.

Come ON! The Hell's Satans? Episode 1108.

Repeater · 02-21-2006, 2:03 AM

Honda will be holy if niky wins this year! well unless colin

makes second every race this year.

jaim · 02-21-2006, 5:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Custom900

Amazingly you cannot prove that God "Does Not" exist. I'm sorry, but I see more proof for God than against. The thing you are trying to get straight is no more than opinion.
I want everyone to understand something before I make my next post, I'm smiling as I type this. I enjoy this type of debate. I hold no judgemental feelings whatsoever.

I have as much evidence and probably more than you do that a god does not exist. I didn't start a new thread to tell everybody about it. But I will and do enjoy stating my side.

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With that said: For a person to call another mentally disabled for a belief in God is immiture and uncalled for. It takes a thoughtless, tactless, moron to step out and say stuff like that.
I've studied, I've researched, I've read, and I have come to the conclusion that there has to be a Creator.
I am more than willing to listen to anyone's intellegent theories and thoughts concerning the non-existence of God. What you will find through Science however is the common opinion that the World and Universe had to have a beginning that started from nothing. And again you will find that the majority rules in favor of a Creator.

I never called anyone mentally disabled. You just made that erroneous assumption. I said they had a "psychological disorder". Many people have psychological disorders and function in society quite successfully.

But you seem to be calling me a moron. And a thoughtless moron at that. Well I take exception to that. I had to think a bit to write the post you responded to. And I have to think some right now. And as for being a moron....blue....

The question I have for you is, Why do you need to have the belief/"knowledge" that there is a god and that he/she/it created the universe?
And a follow up question. Did you do something bad that you hope beyond hope you will be forgiven for when you die and are judged?

ND4SPD · 02-21-2006, 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jaim

I have as much evidence and probably more than you do that a god does not exist. I didn't start a new thread to tell everybody about it. But I will and do enjoy stating my side.

Neither did he...but if he were to, this is the right forum for it

Custom900 · 02-21-2006, 9:00 AM

Jaim, if you would like, go ahead and make all the claims you would like that God doesn't exist. I'll still stick to my beliefs. And for the heck of it I might as well defend all of the ideas and theories you present.
On another note though, it doens't matter what I might say - one person cannot force another person to believe something that they don't want to.

As for the name calling - let's just keep all the immiture stuff out. (Think about it, if you didn't tell me I had psychological issues I didn't call you a moron. I'm easy)

Why do I have to have the belief that God exists? I didn't always have that view. I have a very open mind that has allowed me to see that the world cannot operate without a Creator. Life is very, very fragile. The processes that produce and sustain life are precise and particular to a point of perfection.
The planet we live upon is perfect for sustaining life. In every Solar System discovered there has yet to be another planet with the precision this planet has for sutaining life, according to reasonable Science.
There is nothing, and I mean nothing in Science that has allowed us to make life independantly. We have not been able to make a living organism, or even a semi-functioning body for that matter.

In simple terms for the moment I will only say that there are more questions than answers coming from the Scientific realm. This is something that is leading more and more Scientist in the same direction that I have gone. Yea, they've turned to the social disorder of believing that there has to be a God.

phobiaphobe · 02-21-2006, 10:38 AM

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In simple terms for the moment I will only say that there are more questions than answers coming from the Scientific realm.

That's because science doesn't allow you to offer an answer you can't reasonably prove

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This is something that is leading more and more Scientist in the same direction that I have gone. Yea, they've turned to the social disorder of believing that there has to be a God.

What's wrong with confessing our ignorance and accepting that there are unanswerable questions?

oldfogey · 02-21-2006, 10:52 AM

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I will only say that there are more questions than answers coming from the Scientific realm.

That's the nature of scientific discourse. At any one moment, there will be one or more theories which best fit the facts as they are then known. If knowledge increases quickly because there are more educated people in the world than ever before, then the theories will change faster than before. Truth in the scientific world changes constantly.

Some people are uncomfortable with this and prefer an unscientific, unchanging version of life.

Some prefer to rejoice that humanity is advancing faster today than it ever has.

CBR929RE · 02-21-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Come ON! The Hell's Satans? Episode 1108.

I am ashamed of myself. Did you know the episode number off hand or did you have to look it up?

back to the subject at hand.
Do you have anymore of that popcorn chicken?

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The planet we live upon is perfect for sustaining life. In every Solar System discovered there has yet to be another planet with the precision this planet has for sutaining life, according to reasonable Science.

thats comment is actually not true. They can't prove either way that there's life on another planet. They have no way of determining what the conditions are on planets that are millions and sometimes billions of light years away. If you actually think about the numbers the chance of there not being life out there seems kid of unrealistic.

Proto · 02-21-2006, 11:57 AM

OK, so how many on here believe in creationism or so called "Intelligent Design" ?

Oh, and why?

Proto · 02-21-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Custom900

The planet we live upon is perfect for sustaining life. In every Solar System discovered there has yet to be another planet with the precision this planet has for sutaining life, according to reasonable Science.
There is nothing, and I mean nothing in Science that has allowed us to make life independantly. We have not been able to make a living organism, or even a semi-functioning body for that matter.

There may be life, Jim, but not as we know it.

phobiaphobe · 02-21-2006, 12:26 PM

Why is this planet perfect for sustaining life? Our bodies consist mostly of a highly corrosive liquid and we breathe volatile explosive gas.

luvtolean · 02-21-2006, 12:28 PM

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Why is this planet perfect for sustaining life? Our bodies consist mostly of a highly corrosive liquid and we breathe volatile explosive gas.

Water really is an amazing solvent. And oxygen is so flammable you can't inject it pure into an engine without a real cool glow, followed by bad noises. (of course we breathe air, but you know what I mean)

Most people don't think of it like that, nice one.

deftones156 · 02-21-2006, 1:08 PM

In my studies, I have come to realize that there is much evidence that supports