[Acidreign]

Here is one highly debated topic in some circles...

What is the proper/correct day to worship (i.e. go to church)? The Ten Commandments state (paraphrased) work six days and worship the seventh, as the Sabbath.

Now - at risk of being run through the wringer backwards - I am a cradle Seventh-day Adventist. If you are familiar with this denomination, you will know that we worship (as a group - go to church) on Saturday. Growing up in the denomination I didn’t ever really think about the why of which day. Recently I have started taking stock of where I am with my life and why I believe what I do.

What makes Sunday vs. Saturday right? There is no bad answer, only a want to understand point of view.

Not trying to convert anyone here. I believe that every induvidual has their own relationship with God and serve in the way that is appropriate to them. I know there are many in my church that do not share those beliefs with me.

[Heavy-Dee]

Saturday is technically the 7th day.

HD

[bwhip]

I say every day - Paul says we should "...pray without ceasing." [I Thess 5:17]

[CBRVFR]

"Evening came, and morning came, the seventh day."

Technically, Friday at sundown is the beginning of the seventh day.

[figment]

Originally Posted by Acidreign

What makes Sunday vs. Saturday right? There is no bad answer, only a want to understand point of view.

After the resurection, and the New Covenant, Christians started congregating on Sunday.
Why do Christians worship on Sunday?

[Acidreign]

I understand the "technically speaking" reasoning. But, like bwhip points out - shouldn't we strive to reflect His image every day.

Organized religion can become so legalistic.

[figment]

Originally Posted by Acidreign

I understand the "technically speaking" reasoning. But, like bwhip points out - shouldn't we strive to reflect His image every day.

Organized religion can become so legalistic.

I think you may be confusing congregating with worship or prayer You used the term worship in your first post. Some people use it to describe what they do on the day they go to church. Like prayer, it is good to try to worship continualy.

[Acidreign]

Yes - I supposed I did mean congregate. -- clearified my first post --

[figment]

Originally Posted by Acidreign

Yes - I supposed I did mean congregate.

To worship as a group. Its a terminology dealeo

[Heavy-Dee]

Don't get caught up in the details dude. Do what you think is right. There's too much "Group Think" going on in most churches to care too much what they say.

HD

[ER]

While I believe we should be in constant prayer and communication with Him, I've come to feel that the Lord asks us for one day a week for rest and worship. BOTH are important. I believe He created the Sabbath as a way for us to rest from a hard week's worth of work while at the same time giving us a day to worship Him. Be it Saturday, Sunday...I don't think that the day is as important as the idea that you pick one and rest.

"Churches" as they first came to be were simply groups and congregations of believers. They met every day for study and worship.

[asiliat]

Although from a Baptist Christian background, we don't view Seventh-day Adventist as true Christians. I can't remember why, but there's something fishy about their beliefs.

I remember now (after doing a brief search on google) They have a "prophetess".

As Christians, we do not accept any other doctrine, nor do we recognize any other books other than that of the Holy Bible. Holding Ellen G. White in such high regards is a no.

I'm not into debating about faith, nor religion. I'll put it this way: I accept and applaud your desire to search for the Truth, and really hope you find it. I suggest that if your Adventist faith is shakey, visit a Baptist/Logos/United/Methodist/Gospel/Missionary church for a while, and speak with their pastor about your doubts.

[figment]

Seventh-day Adventist Church Profile

[BDA116]

Figment, that website you linked to is full of lies, deception and hate. There are better resources for info on all Christian religions without bullshit opinions interjected.
Typically in the past I have enjoyed some of your links, but this one is so full of crap it could be kerry's.
Sorry, but this one is definately one I must chime in on.

[figment]

Originally Posted by BDA116

Figment, that website you linked to is full of lies, deception and hate. [snip].

what specificly offended you?

[BDA116]

The entire overtone of the group. The are very elitist and have deep hate for other religions. I glanced over part of the Mormonism section and can tell you they are 100% incorrect, and push hatred and lies about the Christian religion.
The part you linked to on Adventism is very anti as well.
I can say with full honesty that I have twice as much respect for all extreme leftists than I do for any member of that organization.
Anyone looking for truth about religions should look at the specific religion's website for info rather than that hate group.

[figment]

Originally Posted by BDA116

...snip... I glanced over part of the Mormonism section and can tell you they are 100% incorrect, ...snip...

I realized(guessed) when I looked at your location what the problem was. I dont think they "hate" as much as offend you. Sorry you were offended, that was not my intent. They state that there may be many Christians in the SDA Church. I guess you could say the same thing about "Baptists". I'd be happy to look at any links you'd like tp provide as an alternative....

[bwhip]

Originally Posted by ER

While I believe we should be in constant prayer and communication with Him, I've come to feel that the Lord asks us for one day a week for rest and worship. BOTH are important. I believe He created the Sabbath as a way for us to rest from a hard week's worth of work while at the same time giving us a day to worship Him. Be it Saturday, Sunday...I don't think that the day is as important as the idea that you pick one and rest.

"Churches" as they first came to be were simply groups and congregations of believers. They met every day for study and worship.

I agree that at least one day per week to rest and worship collectively is a great thing. I think we have to be careful not to think of that as a day to sort of use as an excuse for any regrettable (i.e. sinful) behavior the rest of the week.

I think Jesus made it pretty clear to the scribes and Pharisees that, while they felt nothing (including healing!) should be done on Sundays per their interpretation of the Mosaic law, that good works like healing and saving should be done anytime or any day there is a need.

[bwhip]

Originally Posted by figment

Seventh-day Adventist Church Profile

I looked at that link as well, with regard to their "profile" of my own denomination, and I find it to be only partially correct, highly opinionated and one-sided.

There's nothing wrong with opinion, but I'd have more respect for it if it was presented as such, fairly defining the positions of each viewpoint, and letting the reader decide which is correct, rather than stating their own opinion as the one and only fact.

How many Biblical passages could any of us refer to, in order to illustrate our point, only to have someone else provide a completely opposite interpretation of the same scripture?

I won't tell someone else my way is absolutely right and theirs is absolutely wrong, just what my faith is and how and why it works for me.

[figment]

Originally Posted by bwhip

...

I won't tell someone else my way is absolutely right and theirs is absolutely wrong, just what my faith is and how and why it works for me.

I am

[BDA116]

Honestly Figment, I have stayed out of the religious threads for the most part because of the "I'm right and you're all wrong" potential, and like bwhip mentioned that thread is very opinionated and one-sided.
As for their one-sided view of Mormonism, yes it is hate filled. Anytime you from the get go deem something a "cult" you are condescending, which leads to hate. Condescension, contention and hate are of the devil, period.
I will not get into religion bashing, or into the "my way is the right way no matter what you say", only to say that I have a complete and firm testimony in Christ and my religious beliefs, and any group set out to attack them is not one I will respect.
Christ wouldn't do it, so why be associated with a group that does?
As for other links regarding my particular faith, try this one: http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/index.html belonging to a regular guy helping dispel the rumors, myths and lies perpetrated by other sites. Or, try http://www.lds.org/ the official website.
As for the Seventh Day Adventists, I would find this http://www.adventist.org/ to be a better source for their beliefs.
Sorry for the rant, just get a little bothered by lies.

[ER]

Originally Posted by bwhip

I agree that at least one day per week to rest and worship collectively is a great thing. I think we have to be careful not to think of that as a day to sort of use as an excuse for any regrettable (i.e. sinful) behavior the rest of the week.

This is a great point to make, in that Christians need to be Christians 24/7, not just in church. I believe that I am witnessing by my actions as well as my words. If people see me saying and doing one thing in church and another on my own then which life am I living?

All that is not to say that a Christian is perfect because that's not fair -- he/she will be tempted to sin just like everyone else. But it is their job to do the best they can, to be in prayer and communication with the Lord, and to ask for His forgiveness when they wander.

[roadrunner954]

Very good viewpoints, it's always interesting to see how others form their beliefs.

I would have to say that most of us probably get our beliefs from our parents as we are brought up. Which is interesting to see someone seek out and question (possibly Acidreign) if that "Religion/Belief" is right for him or her.

Side note: Thanks ER; I'm in the process (Journey) of reading the book "Purpose driven life" (may not be exact title, sorry)

[figment]

Originally Posted by BDA116

I will not get into religion bashing, or into the "my way is the right way no matter what you say", only to say that I have a complete and firm testimony in Christ and my religious beliefs, and any group set out to attack them is not one I will respect.

First let me say that I can’t be held accountable for all the content on any site not my own

A question was raised about SDA position from other viewpoints and I provided a source for that. The thread starter said he wants to see other views to reconcile his beliefs. That’s a brave and mature stance to take. I admire that. That means he's going to see views that contradict his own and evaluate them. Sometimes that’s not easy, for various reasons.

Because someone else has a different viewpoint than you does not mean that they hate you.

"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"

Hate \Hate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Hated; p. pr. & pr. & vb. n.
…
1. To have a great aversion to, with a strong desire that
evil should befall the person toward whom the feeling is
directed; to dislike intensely; to detest; as, to hate
one's enemies; to hate hypocrisy.

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer. --1 John
iii. 15.

Originally Posted by BDA116

Christ wouldn't do it, so why be associated with a group that does?

On to the above quote. Christ had very specific and divisive comments on the contemporary religious authority during His ministry on earth.

Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[Acidreign]

Originally Posted by figment

A question was raised about SDA position from other viewpoints and I provided a source for that. The thread starter said he wants to see other views to reconcile his beliefs. That’s a brave and mature stance to take. I admire that. That means he's going to see views that contradict his own and evaluate them. Sometimes that’s not easy, for various reasons.

Bingo! I did ask for other views. In my first post I prepared myself for very differing, and even pointedly opposing points of view. There are many who do not agree with the SDA basis for belief. Recently, I have been one who has questioned that same base.

There are many people in my denomination who base their religion on quite differing views than I do. There are those who are very judgmental and legalistic – but I don’t think this is unique to my faith. They are quite like the squid on motorcycles that give all the rest of us a bad name. The actions of a few can turn off so many.

Asiliant pointed out the issue of E.G. White. There are those who put her writings in very high regard. They also tend to be the more radically conservative types, as well as the very vocally outspoken. I would not be one of those. She had many good guidelines for her time period. Most of these do not apply today. IMO, if you can’t support your Christian beliefs with the Bible alone, you need to do some serious searching. That seems to be a lot of what creates so much division among Christians. They all have to be RIGHT, even when they are reading from the same book.

This thread is exactly what I was wanting – various points of view – various reasons for why you believe / came to believe what you do. Sorry for the long winded post.