Thank Darwin

jaim · 12-21-2005, 3:37 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/20/intelligent.design/index.html

Repeater · 12-21-2005, 3:39 AM

Jesus Christ what the hell do we do now!

G-Force Junkie · 12-21-2005, 4:05 AM

Sounds good to me

oldfogey · 12-21-2005, 6:03 AM

About time too.

Baketech · 12-21-2005, 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jaim

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/20/intelligent.design/index.html

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ennui.htm

Proto · 12-21-2005, 9:21 AM

What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and His Noodly Appendage? I hope they still teach that theory of creationsim in school. Arrr! oh yea, me 'earties.

http://www.venganza.org/

seamus · 12-21-2005, 9:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ennui.htm

How true. How true.

You deserve a fourth teste for that.

sheepofblue · 12-21-2005, 10:47 AM

Actually I am for teaching multiple theories in school. Part of learning is how to think, how to research, and how to reason. Unfortunately most school is now about regurgitating what the teacher spewed (either required or thiers). If taught with details a student should be able to reason to the best choice while considering that it may be incorrect and that alternatives currently exist or may be possible (thus it is a THEORY).

BDA116 · 12-21-2005, 10:52 AM

Government run education means getting told only what the government wants you to know and not actually learning anything, let alone use your own brain to decide upon your own views.
Communism at it's finest, the liberal indoctrination system.

Scout · 12-21-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jaim

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/20/intelligent.design/index.html

"A lawsuit challenging the policy was brought in December 2004 by 11 parents in conjunction with the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for the Separation of Church and State."

Boy, that's speaking for the majority there, huh?

Once again, the ACLU provides never ending entertainment.

luvtolean · 12-21-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Part of learning is how to think, how to research, and how to reason. Unfortunately most school is now about regurgitating what the teacher spewed (either required or thiers). If taught with details a student should be able to reason to the best choice while considering that it may be incorrect and that alternatives currently exist or may be possible (thus it is a THEORY).

Christian religion sure wouldn't make it far then. No religion would.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Government run education means getting told only what the government wants you to know and not actually learning anything, let alone use your own brain to decide upon your own views.
Communism at it's finest, the liberal indoctrination system.

'Zactly. While I support the theery of evalution, and would want it tought to my ofspring, I don't supprot a public edjication system which pushes indoctanation and conformatie.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Christian religion sure wouldn't make it far then. No religion would.

Yes Sheep would send his children to several different churches, and allow them to decide which god was really really real.

CBRVFR · 12-21-2005, 11:26 AM

I don't think that the public schools ought to be trusted to teach any subject that requires faith or belief. Do it yourself, folks.

Just as I taught my kids that certain of their teachers were unmitigated assholes, I also taught them that they need to take what skills they can from school and learn what they really need know about life from experience.

at Bake, the connoisseur of ****-stirrers..

sheepofblue · 12-21-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Christian religion sure wouldn't make it far then. No religion would.

Then what are you afraid of? While I partially disagree with your point I do not believe the answer is to outlaw theories.

Further I think it would be wise to teach children that the earth is flat then walk through the theories that got us to today. The illustration that provides is very instructive.

CBRVFR · 12-21-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scout

"A lawsuit challenging the policy was brought in December 2004 by 11 parents in conjunction with the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for the Separation of Church and State."

Boy, that's speaking for the majority there, huh?

Once again, the ACLU provides never ending entertainment.

11 people bringing suit against a school board is significant, since they're potentially sharing actual costs.

Read on - the community has voted out 8 of 9 members of that school board. That's an indisputable majority.

sheepofblue · 12-21-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Yes Sheep would send his children to several different churches, and allow them to decide which god was really really real.

Why not? I think most have something to teach. While I have my preference, devout people I have met are wonderful humans regardless of which they attend.

BDA116 · 12-21-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

'Zactly. While I support the theery of evalution, and would want it tought to my ofspring, I don't supprot a public edjication system which pushes indoctanation and conformatie.

I suppert u knot produceing ofspring.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

I don't think that the public schools ought to be trusted to teach any subject that requires faith or belief. Do it yourself, folks...

Good point, that. If you want your kids taught the bible the last person you want doing it is some assholio pubic school teacher.

BDA116 · 12-21-2005, 11:47 AM

While I agree that one can find moronic assholio "teachers" in a gubmint skool without taking five steps, there are also many good teachers stuck in the gubmint system. Most would be glad to drop the gubmint indoctrination crap for a chance to actually educate children in a real school.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

...devout people I have met are wonderful humans regardless of which they attend.

Bet you haven't met Tom Cruise. Or Dave Koresh.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I suppert u knot produceing ofspring.

I already knew that. Why else would you swallow?

BDA116 · 12-21-2005, 11:57 AM

It took you more than 20 minutes to get THAT one?

I'm dissappointed in you.

sheepofblue · 12-21-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Bet you haven't met Tom Cruise. Or Dave Koresh.

Nope however one thought he was G*d so that kind of excludes him. The other (Cruise) while he is a liberal wacko and so is his wife, he did take personal time money and plane to New Orleans to help and unlike some did not bring his personal photography team. Also I have a hard time calling something based upon a Science Fiction book a religion

Rather I was referring to friends I have that are Islamic (top notch fellow, not sure the sect though), Jewish (ditto), 7th Day Adventist, Roman Catholic, Mormon and a variety of Protestants. Likely I am missing some but you can see I have had the privledge of meeting a great variety of great folks.

luvtolean · 12-21-2005, 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Then what are you afraid of? While I partially disagree with your point I do not believe the answer is to outlaw theories.

The earth is flat is a scientific theory. It was tested, didn't pass muster and is now a memory.

There is no way to scientifically test religion. It's "faith based". Religion is not a theory. There is NOTHING scientific about it. It is the exact opposite.

Keep it out of my schools. It doesn't belong there. If my kid needs religious brainwashing in class I'll send him to the private school of my choosing.

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

I don't think that the public schools ought to be trusted to teach any subject that requires faith or belief. Do it yourself, folks.

Why does some teacher need to teach my kid this crap. If it's important to you do it at home, but don't force it down my throat.

ACLU gets it right again.

luvtolean · 12-21-2005, 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Also I have a hard time calling something based upon a Science Fiction book a religion

Why? IMO, highly hypocritical for a person who believes in the Bible.

The Bible is most certainly at least partially a work of fiction.

Scout · 12-21-2005, 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

Read on - the community has voted out 8 of 9 members of that school board. That's an indisputable majority.

Or a vocal minority.

Just being devils advocate here.

phobiaphobe · 12-21-2005, 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

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Further I think it would be wise to teach children that the earth is flat then walk through the theories that got us to today. The illustration that provides is very instructive.

But what if they drop out after first grade? They'll still think the earth is flat!

Scout · 12-21-2005, 2:59 PM

Phobe-

If "ifs" were "fifths" we'd all be drunk.

Proto · 12-21-2005, 3:44 PM

Theory: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

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do not believe the answer is to outlaw theories.

What theories have been outlawed?