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11-11-2006, 4:17 PM
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| Hubble killed God? |
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11-11-2006, 4:26 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Genesis only deals with the creation of this world and the life on it.
Here's a deep one:
The God over our world is our only God, but could He also be God over other worlds that have nothing to do with us?
Could there be other Gods over other worlds and/or galaxies?
Of all the billions of stars in our galaxy alone, not to mention all the other galaxies, how can there not be any other planets sustaining intelligent life forms?
Funny how that author wants everyone else to open their minds to his ideas, but he won't open his mind to other possibilities. Quote: |
If only some men would open theirs.
| If only indeed. |
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11-11-2006, 5:55 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? IF there is a God. |
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11-11-2006, 5:57 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Xenu is my homeboy. |
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11-11-2006, 6:10 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe Xenu is my homeboy. | LOL!!! |
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11-11-2006, 8:05 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 Of all the billions of stars in our galaxy alone, not to mention all the other galaxies, how can there not be any other planets sustaining intelligent life forms? | I did a research paper in 10th or 11th grade on how aliens influenced ancient man (I knew nothing of Scientology other than its wacked up until I just looked up Xenu a minute ago). The paper started off with some numbers which boiled down to 10,000 planets that might possibly be able to sustain life. That was just in our galaxy. So it's pretty niave to think we are the only planet with life on it. Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe Xenu is my homeboy. |
as I just said I had to look that one up. Xenu - encyclopedia article about Xenu.
wow Scientology is totally rediculous. Might as well just add in Star Trek, Star Wars, Stargate and any other science fiction as part of the "religion"
Would Picard be second in command to Xenu? |
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11-11-2006, 8:35 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Are the a number of galaxies in existence? Yes.
Are they billions of light years away? As far as we can tell. How accurate can we really pinpoint the distance of light through space though. At any rate I will still agree that these galaxies and stars are a greater distance away than I care to concieve.
Do I believe in God? Of Course. Does this shake my faith? Not at all. If you believe in God you also believe God is eternal. To be eternal means to have no beginning or end. God could have easily created all of these galaxies at any time. All things are for His glory and His pleasure. I don't understand everything, but I do understand that nothing is impossible for God.
God could have just as easily created everything at the same time and then allowed the light to shine. Time and distance means nothing to an almighty, limitless Creator.
All this article does is cater to a closed mind with an objective to disprove God. You cannot place God within a box and think that He has the same limitations as you and I.
God's thoughts are not our thoughts and His ways are not our ways. |
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11-11-2006, 8:39 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? I don't think the author means to disprove God's existence. just to disprove the timeline associated with the creation. |
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11-11-2006, 11:37 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE I don't think the author means to disprove God's existence. just to disprove the timeline associated with the creation. | Even so it's still possible with God to have created all existence and the world in 6 literal days and that the earth is only a mere few thousand years old. God has chosen the world’s foolish things to shame the wise, and God has chosen the world’s weak things to shame the strong. 28 God has chosen the world’s insignificant and despised things—the things viewed as nothing—so He might bring to nothing the things that are viewed as something, 29 so that no one can boast in His presence.
1 Cor 1:27-29 (HCSB)  |
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11-11-2006, 11:46 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Religion has withstood using the Bible to say the world was flat, using the Bible to say earth was the center of the universe, to say slavery is OK...I don't think this is even a pimple on the ass of religion. |
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11-12-2006, 12:14 AM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by luvtolean Religion has withstood using the Bible to say the world was flat, using the Bible to say earth was the center of the universe, to say slavery is OK...I don't think this is even a pimple on the ass of religion. | You're right, people have used religion, the Bible, and God to try and justify alot of crap that the Bible never actually says in the first place. |
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11-12-2006, 12:35 AM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by Custom900 You're right, people have used religion, the Bible, and God to try and justify alot of crap that the Bible never actually says in the first place. | Does anyone bother to check to see for themselves what it really says? |
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11-12-2006, 12:46 AM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by leelover Does anyone bother to check to see for themselves what it really says? |
dude do you know how thick that book is? |
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11-12-2006, 8:34 AM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE dude do you know how thick that book is? |  Uh huh, I surah do!
And "I pity the fool" who doesn't read it!
Specially if they are able to be ona fast paced board like dis one!  |
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11-12-2006, 11:31 AM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? I think if most people read religious musings, like the bible, with the realization that they are collections of: parables, allegories, metaphors, similes, and certainly hyperbole, they would find the writings a lot more entertaining and useful. |
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11-12-2006, 12:19 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Those who think the bible tells the literal truth have rejected obervable reality,a nd are not to be taken seriously. |
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11-12-2006, 8:06 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by steingar Those who think the bible tells the literal truth have rejected obervable reality,a nd are not to be taken seriously. |
Thanks for calling me and many others on this board an idiot.
You have no clue. |
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11-12-2006, 8:30 PM
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11-12-2006, 8:45 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by Custom900 Thanks for calling me and many others on this board an idiot.
You have no clue. |
I'll preface this by saying I'm not challenging your beliefs in any way or calling you any kind of name or anything like that.
Do you take the whole Bible literally? or aren't many of the stories metaphors? |
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11-12-2006, 9:16 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by steingar Those who think the bible tells the literal truth have rejected obervable reality,a nd are not to be taken seriously. |  |
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11-12-2006, 9:55 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by steingar Those who think the bible tells the literal truth have rejected obervable reality,a nd are not to be taken seriously. | Really?
So, you believe that "observable reality" explains it all?
No offense, but maybe you aren't really seeking out what the Bible teaches. |
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11-12-2006, 10:20 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE I'll preface this by saying I'm not challenging your beliefs in any way or calling you any kind of name or anything like that.
Do you take the whole Bible literally? or aren't many of the stories metaphors? | Archeology has proven time and time again that the Bible is true.
Do I believe that the Red Sea was literally parted? Yep
Do I believe a Donkey spoke? It's not that hard to believe really. Mathyoomay speaks.
Was there a worldwide flood? Yes
I can go on. Yes, I take the Bible literally. If I were to stop believing any one part of the Bible it would be difficult for me to believe any of it. |
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11-12-2006, 11:49 PM
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| Re: Hubble killed God? Quote:
Originally Posted by Custom900 Archeology has proven time and time again that the Bible is true.
Do I believe that the Red Sea was literally parted? Yep
Do I believe a Donkey spoke? It's not that hard to believe really. Mathyoomay speaks.
Was there a worldwide flood? Yes
I can go on. Yes, I take the Bible literally. If I were to stop believing any one part of the Bible it would be difficult for me to believe any of it. |
what specifically has archeology proven? as far as I know there has just been a bunch of findings that could possibly be related to the Bible. For instance boxes with the names Jesus and Joseph, the supposed Ark. Its all just speculation that those pieces are actually what was written about in the Bible.
I'm not saying you stop believing any part of it. just that it doesn't ALL have to be taken literally for you to still believe in it. Why is there so much controversy on the translation and meaning of everything in there. Having your own interpretation doesn't mean you don't believe. It's the basis for the different sects of Christianity. Each still believe in it as a whole they just have different interpretations.
do I believe the Red Sea was actually parted? no.
does make a good story of leadership and perserverance.
do I believe a donkey spoke? not unless the person listening was high. I'm not really familiar with this story though.
do I believe there was a worldwide flood? sure why not, I could go either way. That boat they found that they think might be Noah's Ark does help the belief thats for sure. |
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11-12-2006, 11:58 PM
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