Home Marketplace Articles FAQ Gallery Arcade
Join FireBlades.org! Unanswered Posts New Posts Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org Forums > General Motorcycling > Riding Gear / Luggage

Riding Gear / Luggage: Discussion of Helmets, Boots, Gloves, Leathers, Jackets, Pants, Back Protectors, Earplugs, Tank Bags, Tail Bags, Saddlebags, etc.
Forgot your User Name or Password?
Not a member? Join today!





Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-21-2003, 3:24 PM
  #1
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Well, I got the gel grips, the exercises, and the wristbands. Seems like my new carpal tunnel situation might require changes to the clip ons as well. So -

What is the downside, if any, to aggressive (trackday) riding with higher bars?

And- who makes the best 'extenders' for the buck? Heli bars require a new throttle cable, do they all?

Any other experience or thoughts would be appreciated.

CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-21-2003, 3:26 PM
  #2
 
2OHOH2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-07-2003
Location: CHS, SC, USA
Bike(s): 1300,625,600,150
Age: 37
Posts: 3,600
Rep: 2OHOH2 is on a distinguished road (35)
Rep Power: 9
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Helis come with new cables... but having had them on a 929 and a 954, I didn't have to install them, so no biggie.
2OHOH2 is offline  
View 2OHOH2's Profile View 2OHOH2's Gallery Visit 2OHOH2's homepage! Find More Posts by 2OHOH2
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-21-2003, 3:33 PM
  #3
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Quote:
2OHOH2954 : Helis come with new cables... but having had them on a 929 and a 954, I didn't have to install them, so no biggie.
Does this mean you made the stock cables work, or that someone else did the installation?

And do you notice any difference in the way the bike feels / handles? Is your riding position a lot different?
CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-21-2003, 4:35 PM
  #4
 
2OHOH2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-07-2003
Location: CHS, SC, USA
Bike(s): 1300,625,600,150
Age: 37
Posts: 3,600
Rep: 2OHOH2 is on a distinguished road (35)
Rep Power: 9
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

I made the stock cables work.

The change in position is subtle, but the change in comfort is significant. I don't know how these would be on the track, but on the street they're great.
2OHOH2 is offline  
View 2OHOH2's Profile View 2OHOH2's Gallery Visit 2OHOH2's homepage! Find More Posts by 2OHOH2
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-21-2003, 6:04 PM
  #5
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Posts: 120
Rep: fusion929rr is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 6
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

I put the heli bars on my 929 and love them. The stock cables are retained, but repositioned. It too a few days to get used to them but i never regret it. I think track days would be fine since you can put the helis in a lower position.
fusion929rr is offline  
View fusion929rr's Profile View fusion929rr's Gallery Find More Posts by fusion929rr
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-23-2003, 8:54 PM
  #6
 
Join Date: 05-31-2003
Posts: 3
Rep: cmzx9r is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 0
Send a message via Yahoo to cmzx9r
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

I bought my Heli bars for my 954 after I was having carpal tunnel problems with my right hand, it hurt so bad that I could not pull the brake lever. The new riding position is great with the Helis. I have had no pain in my hands at all sense the switch. The Helis and my Corbin seat have transformed it into a different bike. I love it. They look so good that no one notices their not stock. I have also done several track days with them and have had no problems. If anything I think the bike turns easier now because the wider bars give you more leverage. I recommend them to all and 3 of my friends with a 954,929, and ZX 12R all say they are going to order some. I hope this helps.
cmzx9r is offline  
View cmzx9r's Profile View cmzx9r's Gallery Find More Posts by cmzx9r
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 1:27 AM
  #7
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

OK, I ordered the Heli's this afternoon. Jamie was really nice and knowledgeable, says the 954 version is taller and swept back more than the 929, and therefore requires the new cables, so I'm taking the tank and airbox off now. Ironically, kind of a pain in the wrist, if ya know what I mean.

Thanks for the input, guys
CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 4:09 PM
  #8
 
2OHOH2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-07-2003
Location: CHS, SC, USA
Bike(s): 1300,625,600,150
Age: 37
Posts: 3,600
Rep: 2OHOH2 is on a distinguished road (35)
Rep Power: 9
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Quote:
CBRVFR : OK, I ordered the Heli's this afternoon. Jamie was really nice and knowledgeable, says the 954 version is taller and swept back more than the 929, and therefore requires the new cables, so I'm taking the tank and airbox off now. Ironically, kind of a pain in the wrist, if ya know what I mean.

Thanks for the input, guys
Unless you've got time to burn, and want a reason to curse for a bit, wait until they show up. I have the 954-specific Helis on, and didn't need the new cables. Yes, it's probably neater and a little better to use them, but certainly not required.
2OHOH2 is offline  
View 2OHOH2's Profile View 2OHOH2's Gallery Visit 2OHOH2's homepage! Find More Posts by 2OHOH2
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 4:15 PM
  #9
Resigned to pursue other interests.
 
ConqSoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-01-2001
Location: Raleigh, NC
Bike(s): 2007 Honda ST1300
Age: 36
Posts: 12,313
Rep: ConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to beholdConqSoft is a splendid one to behold (833)
Rep Power: 28
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

WarpSpeed switched to the new cables with his Heli's but afterwards saw that the stock lines would have worked. Much easier install if you keep the stock cables.
ConqSoft is offline  
View ConqSoft's Profile View ConqSoft's Gallery Visit ConqSoft's homepage! Find More Posts by ConqSoft My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 4:27 PM
  #10
 
HondaGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-29-2001
Location: New Jersey
Bike(s): '99 VFR, '06 Warrior
Age: 46
Posts: 1,384
Rep: HondaGal will become famous soon enough (75)
Rep Power: 9
Send a message via AIM to HondaGal
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Good choice on the Helis. I had them on my 929 and the little bit they were pulled back made all the difference in the world. Very difficult to notice them as being different than stock.
HondaGal is offline  
View HondaGal's Profile View HondaGal's Gallery Find More Posts by HondaGal
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 5:32 PM
  #11
 
Join Date: 06-30-2001
Location: Arizona
Bike(s): Honda Hawk GT, Honda CBR929
Posts: 248
Rep: red929 is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 8
Send a message via ICQ to red929 Send a message via AIM to red929
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Take a look at the new Gilles Tooling adjustable clip-ons before you decide. *They are extremely well engineered ... just like their rearsets.

http://www.gillestooling.com/Data/en...r_900_rr.html#

Here's a better picture

http://www.gillestooling.com/Data/en...n/image011.jpg

http://www.gillestooling.com/Data...._1.html



red929 is offline  
View red929's Profile View red929's Gallery Find More Posts by red929 My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-24-2003, 11:53 PM
  #12
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Funny. I just got back in the house after taking the bike apart. Wasn't too bad, except the gas tank removal. They made a huge point of making sure the fuel system was depressurized. They could also have mentioned that it would have been far less work if you DTFT.

That'd be Drain The F$%#(*& Tank.

Live and learn.......

I think the Helis want to make sure that even if someone routes the cables improperly, there would still be enough slack so the bike wouldn't accelerate if the bars were pulled full left. ( Just a guess from having improperly routed the cables on a Heli mod on my VFR many years ago....)
CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-25-2003, 2:00 PM
  #13
 
Join Date: 11-21-2002
Location: Columbus, Oh.
Bike(s): 02 954 sil/blk-gone 01 FZ1
Age: 51
Posts: 705
Rep: slowpoke is on a distinguished road (11)
Rep Power: 7
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Why did you have to remove the tank?
slowpoke is offline  
View slowpoke's Profile View slowpoke's Gallery Find More Posts by slowpoke
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-25-2003, 2:53 PM
  #14
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

The throttle cables terminate under the airbox, which is under the tank. I'm going to like a fool if it turns out they're unnecessary, but I did that so I could replace the old ones.
CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-27-2003, 2:05 PM
  #15
 
Join Date: 11-21-2002
Location: Columbus, Oh.
Bike(s): 02 954 sil/blk-gone 01 FZ1
Age: 51
Posts: 705
Rep: slowpoke is on a distinguished road (11)
Rep Power: 7
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

Oh, man, I'm sure you could have just propped the tank up and got at the cables.
slowpoke is offline  
View slowpoke's Profile View slowpoke's Gallery Find More Posts by slowpoke
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-27-2003, 11:57 PM
  #16
 
Join Date: 05-09-2003
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more!
Posts: 4,806
Rep: CBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud ofCBRVFR has much to be proud of (1495)
Rep Power: 24
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

OK, all done.

I did change the cables to the ones they provided, and the connection at the throttle body required removal of the airbox. I was able to reroute the stock clutch cable and modify the horn bracket, as per Heli's instructions, so It's all good. Very comfortable, good quality product, and I'm optimistic that it will greatly help my wrist situation.

That was my first foray into the 954 flapper/cable network. Pretty complex. But it all went back together with no extra parts!

Thanks for everybody's input.
CBRVFR is offline  
View CBRVFR's Profile View CBRVFR's Gallery Find More Posts by CBRVFR
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 06-28-2003, 3:21 AM
  #17
 
2OHOH2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-07-2003
Location: CHS, SC, USA
Bike(s): 1300,625,600,150
Age: 37
Posts: 3,600
Rep: 2OHOH2 is on a distinguished road (35)
Rep Power: 9
Re: Heli bars? Gen Mars? Others? None?

You will be happy with your Helis.

'We demand it.'*








*taken from the Animatrix, very cool DVD
2OHOH2 is offline  
View 2OHOH2's Profile View 2OHOH2's Gallery Visit 2OHOH2's homepage! Find More Posts by 2OHOH2
Reply With Quote Go To Top

 
About Blog Links Contact Staff Rules Link To Us Legal Privacy Sitemap
Top

Copyright © 2006 FireBlades.org. All Rights Reserved. FireBlades.org is not affiliated with, nor endorsed by, any motorcycle manufacturers.
Best viewed at a resolution of 1024x768 or higher. SEO by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc. All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:10 PM.

FireBlades.org RSS2 Feed   Add to Google   Add to My Yahoo!   Add to My MSN


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.