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Old 02-08-2005, 12:31 PM
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How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
It sparked my mind after reading the leather cleaning thread that I have still yet to clean my A*'s Stunt, it has a seasons worth of dead bugs on it since I'm too scared and un-informed on how to clean it. I have never owned a leather jacket before, only textile so I'm kind of at a loss.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
Honda Polish, original formula
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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It sparked my mind after reading the leather cleaning thread that I have still yet to clean my A*'s Stunt, it has a seasons worth of dead bugs on it since I'm too scared and un-informed on how to clean it. I have never owned a leather jacket before, only textile so I'm kind of at a loss.

Warm, soapy water, then leather cleaner, then leather conditioner.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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Honda Polish, original formula
Honda polish seems to be the greatest cleaner ever but is it safe to use on leathers?
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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Warm, soapy water, then leather cleaner, then leather conditioner.
Any specific brands to steer towards or away from??
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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Honda polish seems to be the greatest cleaner ever but is it safe to use on leathers?
I've used it on my jacket, my suit, my boots, shoes, interior of my car, helmet, visor...never a problem.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
They have this wierd stuff at Autozone called leather cleaner. That might work.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
Helmut, of Helimot leathers, recommended Lexol products to me...works great. Use the cleaner and then the conditioner.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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Warm, soapy water, then leather cleaner, then leather conditioner.

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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
The guy who made my leather suit swears by lemon Pledge.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
Mine gets cleaned every time I get caught in the rain.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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Warm, soapy water, then leather cleaner, then leather conditioner.
Go with THE PETE .
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
THE PETE, you weren't thinking about leather jackets when you wrote that, now were you?
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Any specific brands to steer towards or away from??
They're all the same. Just go to the car care section at WalMart or any PepBoys type place.
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THE PETE, you weren't thinking about leather jackets when you wrote that, now were you?
Originally, I was, but once I had a second to read what I had written, my mind quickly wandered.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
I use a couple of products recommended by Tiger Angel, the maker of my leathers. Mother's Leather Cleaner followed by Mother's Leather Conditioner. Quick, easy and good results.
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spit shine?
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
Rain!

Any lotion with glycerin. The glycerin makes the leather soft and supple like a baby's skin. Glycerin also just happens to be the main ingredient in the better hand lotions. It makes skins strong and soft. The leather cleaners you get should have this in its ingredients.
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Leave the bugs on....it keeps your wife from wanting to kiss you goodbye on Sunday mornings....

If you really must...a nice rainy day ride does wonders...
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Leave the bugs on....it keeps your wife from wanting to kiss you goodbye on Sunday mornings....

If you really must...a nice rainy day ride does wonders...
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The guy who made my leather suit swears by lemon Pledge.

IAM leathers i presume??? lol

He said the same for mine when he altered it.

but he mentioned that as a deterant to bugs sticking ot the leathers, not as a claener, although i'm sure it would work for that too. It does however smell lemony fresh!!
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
I just remembered this, but several people have told me in the past that if you cut a potato in half and rub it on the dirt spots it will clean it right up. Never tried it.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
If you've got a Wilson's House of Suede and Leather at a mall near you, they sell some pretty good leather care products - including cleaner and conditioner that protects it if it happens to get wet, too.
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IM Leathers, the guys who made me my suit swears by Pledge.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
simple... saddle soap. that stuff is awesome. you can get it at any horse supply place
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
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simple... saddle soap. that stuff is awesome. you can get it at any horse supply place
Yo, saddle soap is a great cleaner for leather, but afterwards you really need to treat with a leather conditioner. Saddle soap really dries out leather, and it will crack prematurely.
I use good old Armor All leather cleaner/conditioner. It's readily available, does a great job, and makes subsequent cleaning easier.
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Helmut, of Helimot leathers, recommended Lexol products to me...works great. Use the cleaner and then the conditioner.
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Mine gets cleaned every time I get caught in the rain.
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Re: How do you clean the ouside of a leather jacket?
100% cotton, terry cloth rag damp with warm water to get the bug/guts off.

Hmm.. might have to check into some of these leather specific cleaners/conditioners
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