Riding Gear / Luggage: Discussion of Helmets, Boots, Gloves, Leathers, Jackets, Pants, Back Protectors, Earplugs, Tank Bags, Tail Bags, Saddlebags, etc.
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05-15-2006, 8:10 PM
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| EVS RC2 neck collar Anyone using one of these? http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...EVS_RC2-A-BK_G . I just ordered one today in hopes it will come in time for my race this weekend. Its more for protecting my collarbone that I recently broke in case I go down again....but after the recent unfortunate death of another racer in CMRA it seems to be a good idea to wear one.
So does anyone wear one or plan to? |
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05-15-2006, 8:11 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Let us know what you think.
I was looking pretty hard at those recently.
I notice lots of young kids in motocross are wearing them now. Back when I was in high school a friend was killed with a simple over the bars crash into sand that broke his neck...fear of that never completely left me. |
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05-15-2006, 8:21 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Im kinda anxious to get it for a couple reasons. One is just a little more peace of mind. The second is an idea I saw last year. I saw a fellow take a small towel out of an ice chest and place it around his neck under his leathers before hitting the track in the endurance race. It was obviously an attempt to stay cool during his hour long stint on the bike. Im curious if this collar would have a significant cooling properties if placed in cold water prior to going on the track.
There is a discussion on the CMRAracing.com site about the collar. Kinda indirect as its in a thread about a racer missing the remainder of the season with a back injury. Some of the guys have them already and like them.
I value my mobility so Im gonna wear one. |
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05-15-2006, 9:39 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar I think it will help support your neck in a bad crash, especialy rotating to the rear. But I doubt it will do much for your collarbones, is may act as somewhat of a cushion, but filling the gap between your helmet and collarbone is just going to put pressure on it sooner if you head is really thrust forward. The collarbones are so fragile (I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that) i doubt there is much you can do to save them in a bad crash. Luckaly the are expendable and not real structuraly important. Saving your spinal cord would outweigh any additional threat to your collarbones. I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain 
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05-15-2006, 9:49 PM
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#5 | | Meatarian
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain  | same here on both counts.
maybe they aren't as thick (although they look to be very similar)
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05-15-2006, 10:30 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I think it will help support your neck in a bad crash, especialy rotating to the rear. But I doubt it will do much for your collarbones, is may act as somewhat of a cushion, but filling the gap between your helmet and collarbone is just going to put pressure on it sooner if you head is really thrust forward. The collarbones are so fragile (I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that) i doubt there is much you can do to save them in a bad crash. Luckaly the are expendable and not real structuraly important. Saving your spinal cord would outweigh any additional threat to your collarbones. I've worn them before in racing gocarts...they seeme really restrictive, I am not sure how usable they would be on a sportbike where you often have your head turned to full lock. I've done the same injury as you so I feel your pain  | Looks like you had a fall straight onto your shoulder like I did. Broke up instead of out. The collar is supposed to protect your neck as well as protect your collarbone from the helmet. Several expressed concern about whether it would be difficult looking up in a tuck behind the windscreen. The guys that wear them say it isnt a factor at all. One said the collar kinda irritated his neck but considering the potential injuries, well........ |
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05-15-2006, 11:04 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie ...I've heard 7 pounds of pressure on a small area will do it, not sure about that... | That's what I was taught in my martial arts class a couple years ago. Aikido at that time, have since moved on. Had a doc confirm that a small amount of pressure (couldn't confirm exactly 7 pounds of pressure). The force has to be exerted in a particular direction for that small a force to break the bone though. |
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05-16-2006, 1:42 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBR929RE same here on both counts.
maybe they aren't as thick (although they look to be very similar) | They arent as thick as you would think. Ive seen a couple at the track already. I'll give y'all a review if it comes in before the weekend. |
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05-16-2006, 3:06 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by seamus That's what I was taught in my martial arts class a couple years ago. Aikido at that time, have since moved on. Had a doc confirm that a small amount of pressure (couldn't confirm exactly 7 pounds of pressure). The force has to be exerted in a particular direction for that small a force to break the bone though. | Yep, me three. 7 pounds, or less than an egg if you hit the ground with your arms extended up.
Broke mine when I was about 5 falling out of bed.
Now when I fall like that...I dislocate my shoulder rather than break the collarbone.  |
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05-16-2006, 7:52 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Just get hinges installed on both collarbones and then it won't make any difference. |
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05-16-2006, 9:26 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I've done the same injury | Looks a lot like the screws and plate in my left collar bone!  |
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05-16-2006, 9:28 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Diesel954 | I have that same one, and wear it while riding my dirtbike. Any extra bit of safety is worth it, IMO. |
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05-16-2006, 11:13 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete I have that same one, and wear it while riding my dirtbike. Any extra bit of safety is worth it, IMO. | Do you think it would work while riding on the track with your street bike or be too restrictive? |
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05-16-2006, 11:19 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by RRWANTR Do you think it would work while riding on the track with your street bike or be too restrictive? | I know without a doubt that it would be too restrictive for me to use on a road course. YMMV |
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05-16-2006, 11:39 AM
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#15 | | Mr. Brownstone
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete I know without a doubt that it would be too restrictive for me to use on a road course. YMMV | Wear it on the next episode of American Hot Rod for us so we can get a good feel for it. |
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05-16-2006, 11:41 AM
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#16 | | Just repeating what ever I hear...
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by BDA116 Wear it on the next episode of American Hot Rod for us so we can get a good feel for it. |
BWWWAAAAAAA HA HA HA HAH A HAHA AH AH AH A
I thought I was the only one that thought that!!!!!  |
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05-16-2006, 11:56 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee BWWWAAAAAAA HA HA HA HAH A HAHA AH AH AH A
I thought I was the only one that thought that!!!!!  | Phuckers. |
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05-18-2006, 4:22 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar My collar came in today. Its not thick at all and I tried it on with a helmet. Not restrictive at all. Cant really feel it unless you try to put your chin to your chest. Moving my head back like I am trying to get under the screen in a tuck doesnt touch the back of the collar. Seems to be a good deal so far. I'll let you know after the race this weekend. |
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05-18-2006, 4:37 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Diesel954 My collar came in today. Its not thick at all and I tried it on with a helmet. Not restrictive at all. Cant really feel it unless you try to put your chin to your chest. Moving my head back like I am trying to get under the screen in a tuck doesnt touch the back of the collar. Seems to be a good deal so far. I'll let you know after the race this weekend. | You got a Colin Edwards neck?  |
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05-18-2006, 5:04 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete You got a Colin Edwards neck?  | Maybe just not the Michelin man neck like you. |
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05-18-2006, 6:15 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by RRWANTR Maybe just not the Michelin man neck like you. | owned . . . |
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05-18-2006, 7:13 PM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete You got a Colin Edwards neck?  | It may look that way as I pass you.  |
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05-19-2006, 9:18 AM
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| Re: EVS RC2 neck collar Quote: |
Originally Posted by abtech owned . . . | Maybe at your sophomoric level of humor. |
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