kevlar jeans or steel jeans?

Quinc · 10-12-2006, 12:10 AM

neither of these are as good as leather but which would be better? and which brands are best?

any reviews?

luvtolean · 10-12-2006, 12:27 AM

Steel...as in the metal?

Jeez.

Kevlar.

phobiaphobe · 10-12-2006, 12:30 AM

I had steel jeans but they got real rusty around the scrotum area.

luvtolean · 10-12-2006, 12:34 AM

I thought for sure this was an Icon product, but it's their close cousin, Joe Rocket.

Joe Rocket Steel Motorcycle Jeans

I have to admit, they look kinda cool as casual wear.

Quinc · 10-13-2006, 12:16 AM

yeah icon makes a pair with a liner of kevlar in them. was wondering if there where any tests done where they drag the jeans behind a car and see how they hold up.

luvtolean · 10-13-2006, 12:27 AM

Like **** of course.

If you care, buy leather.

leelover · 10-13-2006, 12:30 AM

We have been using Draggin' jeans. Haven't tested them yet, thankfully!
After reading that thread about the girl who fell off the bike I am thinking I need something with more protection. Especially in the knee areas!
What are you all using? Do wear them over jeans, or instead of?

leelover · 10-13-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

If you care, buy leather.

Are there any alternatives that come close in protection but are cooler?

luvtolean · 10-13-2006, 12:35 AM

No. Any material that is not leather will not approach it in abrasion resistance.

These jeans don't have any impact protection either.

A high quality Aerostitch suit (which is a mix of Kevlar/ballistic nylon etc etc), or decent quality (and up) leather are the only options that are recommendable.

leelover · 10-13-2006, 12:46 AM

Are the perforated leather pants still really hot?

HondaGalToo · 10-13-2006, 5:15 AM

I'm with LTL on this one. When I ride, it's a full 2 piece leather suit or the Aerostich. If it's too hot to put on full gear, then it's too hot to ride.
My street leathers are fully perforated, and as long as I'm moving, they aren't bad. I wear Underarmour hot gear pants or similar leggings under the pants. On the really hot days, I wear an Underarmour shirt instead of a T-shirt under the jacket. That really helps keep me cool.
I'd rather sweat than bleed.

leelover · 10-13-2006, 9:20 AM

I agree HGT, I am wearing the gear (except the armoured pants-yet!), but where I am if I don't ride if it's too hot to wear the gear, the bike would be parked from May to Sept! I still wear the gear, though. Soggily(?)

I am planning to get a full set of perforated leathers. I am thinking that if I get a 2 pc, I will be able to use it both track and street. Is this realistic, or do the advantages of a 1 pc at the track that much greater?

HondaGalToo · 10-13-2006, 9:44 AM

A one piece will offer greater protection on the track, although I've never seen a high end suit with a full-circumference zipper come apart. Examine the way the zipper attaches. My custom Vanson has it attached with a very short piece of cloth, no cloth really, the zipper is sewn right on, if that makes sense. I'd trust that zipper on the track (although I have a one piece for track use only). On the other hand, I wouldn't trust the zipper on Vanson's off the rack stuff. To keep the adjustable waist, they have a stupid 3 piece zipper that looks like it'd unzip itself pretty easily. Other 2 piece off the rack suits I've seen have the zipper attached with a 1-2 inch wide piece of cloth or nylon material that concerns me.
If you get one suit and it'll be mostly for street riding, a good 2 piece might be the way to go. I would hate my one piece on the street, because when you stop for lunch, you've got it dragging around behind you. Not to mention that if it fits correctly, you've got to wrestle in and out of it.

leelover · 10-13-2006, 9:55 AM

thanks! I am seeing what you mean about the 1 pc. Tried a couple on the other day, a Teckniks, and an Agv, Ithink.
The Teck was used (looked like new), and after my pretty much getting stuck in it ,the shop owner remembered the guy had had it custom tailored. Apparently quite ammusing to the other patrons!

HondaGalToo · 10-13-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by leelover

thanks! I am seeing what you mean about the 1 pc. Tried a couple on the other day, a Teckniks, and an Agv, Ithink.
The Teck was used (looked like new), and after my pretty much getting stuck in it ,the shop owner remembered the guy had had it custom tailored. Apparently quite ammusing to the other patrons!

I'll bet!

However, they should fit snugly. I usually need someone to pull one arm off, and to help get it up over my back protector. If you can get in and out of it easily, it's too big!

soon2b954 · 10-13-2006, 10:16 AM

I have a pair of Draggin jeans with Knox knee armour in them, I love them. I where those for quick spins or when it's extremely hot and my full leathers for longer more spirited runs.

rgs4480 · 10-14-2006, 1:13 AM

About 4 years a go, along side a CA twisty mountain road, I found myself sitting with a rider who was wearing the "kevlar" jeans, a really cool looking jacket, and some kind of street gloves. I didn't know the guy but there he was, bike off the road and he a bloody mess. Went through all my tee-shirts soaking up the weeping wounds on his legs, chest, back, arms and hands till the ambulance showed up.

Wear full protection.

ihatecrashing · 10-14-2006, 1:39 AM

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Originally Posted by leelover

Are the perforated leather pants still really hot?

Depends on who is wearing them!

rgs4480 · 10-14-2006, 1:47 AM

<laughing>
How true!

Quinc · 10-17-2006, 12:19 AM

you guys put on your leather pants if your riding around town.. store/gym/etc..??

dragging jeans Kevlar Riding Jeans! (Relaxed Fit)

rgs4480 · 10-17-2006, 12:30 AM

I do...but that is just me.

HondaGalToo · 10-17-2006, 5:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Quinc

you guys put on your leather pants if your riding around town.. store/gym/etc..??

Yes. Leathers or the Aerostich. Always.

SomeStrangeGuy · 10-17-2006, 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Quinc

you guys put on your leather pants if your riding around town.. store/gym/etc..??

I actually made it a point to only own leather pants, but that has nothing to do with motorcycling so I'll save it for another time.

HondaGalToo · 10-17-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

I actually made it a point to only own leather pants, but that has nothing to do with motorcycling so I'll save it for another time.

gt702 · 10-17-2006, 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinc

you guys put on your leather pants if your riding around town.. store/gym/etc..??

dragging jeans Kevlar Riding Jeans! (Relaxed Fit)

Simple sliding is one thing, hitting (or being hit by) something of substance, or broken pavement is another.

For the simple ride to work, where traffic is pretty well controlled, I wear overpants with protection in the knees and hips, and a pretty heavy balistic nylon (double layer in wear points). Everywhere else I wear leather.

You can find some decent perforated overpants if you need to have more dress appearance at your destination, but vented leathers are the safest way. And they only get warm when you stop.

Graf · 10-19-2006, 1:27 AM

august 2006 i have been crashed in Icon Anthem Pants and it's OK. There is 1 hole