Opinions on No-Cut Frame Sliders

9two9rider · 01-24-2008, 3:36 PM

Hey all, I've been riding my '06 CBR 1K long enough without protection. I sure as hell won't cut into my side fairings, so I'd like to know how many of you have the No-Cut Frame Sliders installed. Brand names, prices, and opinions would be appreciated. Have a whole lot on my plate right now, and no time for stop and talks with the local shops.

Bigtoe · 01-24-2008, 4:12 PM

I just ordered a set of Shogun no cut frame sliders from kneedraggers. I'll ley you know how they install when I get them and install. They were $111 for frame, bar, and swing arm sliders.

2k929 · 01-24-2008, 5:04 PM

My 929 has them. Don't know if i have a brand name, because they were on it when i got the bike. But i would get a traditional looking one, not one that is cheaply made.

9two9rider · 01-24-2008, 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtoe

I just ordered a set of Shogun no cut frame sliders from kneedraggers. I'll ley you know how they install when I get them and install. They were $111 for frame, bar, and swing arm sliders.

I saw those on the website. Definitely one set I'm looking closer at.

DemonRR · 01-27-2008, 5:08 PM

motovation no-cut frame sliders. about 125.00. the best no-cut frame sliders made. i have them on my bike. extremely well built.

and please dont get the shoguns. if you go down on the left side, there is a great risk of the shogun bending inward and blowing the coolant elbow right there. there is a few threads about shogun frame sliders on 1000rr.net.

cmack72 · 01-27-2008, 7:54 PM

Demon RR. I have the Motovation no-cut sliders and they are the best out there. I just went down last Friday and they saved me big time. All I need to do is replace the puck and I'm back in business.

CBR400RR · 01-27-2008, 11:39 PM

No cut sliders are not as good as cut or race sliders as they can rotate, bend or flex in a crash. I have a full service shop and I see a lot more damage with no cut sliders than the cut or race sliders. Also the no cuts cost a lot more then the race cut ones do. I'm a dealer for a lot of slider companies and I install a lot of kits and all are very similar in quality. Stay away from metal sliders as they dig in and catch in a crash and can and do break frame and engine mounts.

DemonRR · 01-28-2008, 10:49 PM

^^^
have you seen the quality and the build of the motovation no-cuts?

if you have, then you would recant your earlier statement. all other no-cut sliders are ****.

ldavis · 01-28-2008, 11:06 PM

i too would NOT go with the no cut on the newer 1krr's. i know several people who have them, they look nice, but i work for a company that does alot of flexural and tensile testing and anything that's on an extension is dramatically weaker than a direct mount. regardless of how "well" something is made, if you want the best protection you better get out the dremel tool and cut away.

CBR400RR · 01-28-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DemonRR

^^^
have you seen the quality and the build of the motovation no-cuts?

if you have, then you would recant your earlier statement. all other no-cut sliders are ****.

I have a full service shop and I have been riding and working on motorcycles for over 20 years and I service as many as 12 bikes a day and I have as many as 10 wrecked bikes a month (8 right now) and no cut sliders do not hold up as well as the cut sliders.

DemonRR · 01-29-2008, 7:40 AM

ok, keep on knocking no-cuts. but you still havent answered my question. have to looked (physically looked at) the motovation no-cuts? untill you have looked at them, im done argueing with you about this matter. i dont give a **** if you work on 50 bikes a week. the moto no-cuts are the best no-cust made and available. and they stand up to their name in a crash with no water elbow damage.

CBR400RR · 01-29-2008, 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DemonRR

ok, keep on knocking no-cuts. but you still havent answered my question. have to looked (physically looked at) the motovation no-cuts? untill you have looked at them, im done argueing with you about this matter. i dont give a **** if you work on 50 bikes a week. the moto no-cuts are the best no-cust made and available. and they stand up to their name in a crash with no water elbow damage.

I never said ther was anything wrong with Motovation sliders just that cut slider are better and here is what Motovation said when I asked them the same question.

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Hello Scott,

Direct mount sliders are going to be the strongest solution as they mount directly to the frame.. Indirect mounting uses an offset bracket that is more susceptible to breaking on impact, however, we use very strong billet brackets that are stronger than most. Direct mount sliders are usually the top choice for racers since they don't care about modifying the fairings and are the strongest option. Below is a link with more information. Hope this helps.

http://www.motovationusa.com/primer.html

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.
Best Regards,
Jason Herod
jason@motovationusa.com
Thank-you for supporting Motovation products!
Ph: 512-697-9672 Fax: 512-828-6378

ldavis · 01-29-2008, 3:26 PM

^^^^ well stated.. it sounds exactly like what my real life experience teaches me and what i stated in my post. demon really seems like a know it all smart a$$. his posts always sound like "he's right"

Bigtoe · 02-14-2008, 10:21 AM

So maybe I need to rethink my no cut frame slider options.

cmack72 · 02-14-2008, 6:20 PM

Demon is correct in what he is saying. CBR400rr you need to re-read what you posted yourself. Direct mount sliders are usually the top choice for racers. Unless Bigtoe is going to be putting his bike on the track or riding on the street like it's a track day he will be fine. As I said before I have tested these myself and they saved my bike from being totaled.

DemonRR · 02-14-2008, 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cmack72

Demon is correct in what he is saying. CBR400rr you need to re-read what you posted yourself. Direct mount sliders are usually the top choice for racers. Unless Bigtoe is going to be putting his bike on the track or riding on the street like it's a track day he will be fine. As I said before I have tested these myself and they saved my bike from being totaled.

thanks man. i dont normally post up buss **** guys. if i do post something, its from prior experiences. im not always correct, but would NEVER mislead anyone in putting parts on their bikes. i was saying the moto no-cuts are the BEST MADE!!!!!!!!! no cuts. they are even better than some cut frame sliders (cough: shogun piece of **** sliders).

you tools have fun. if ya wanna meet up, ill be at a track near you all summer. grattan, mid ohio, vir, blackhawk, barber.

Bigtoe · 02-15-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonRR

if ya wanna meet up, ill be at a track near you all summer. grattan, mid ohio, vir, blackhawk, barber.

Funny. I live 2 miles away from Blackhawk and have never been there. I can hear them from my house as I drink coffee from my garage or deck.

Repsol392 · 02-19-2008, 1:48 PM

I have motovation usa no cut frame sliders/ front fork & rear axle sliders. Look & fit great. Heard stories of people crashing with them and them holding up pretty good because of the thick brackets. Good overall design.

sheepofblue · 02-19-2008, 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtoe

So maybe I need to rethink my no cut frame slider options.

I would and I have some on the RR. I have 'used' the ones on the RC with great results (cut type). While mine are not as good as the Motivation design on the RR I am pretty sure that the result would be FAR from as good. Also I have seen bent and broken no-cuts at the track but not a cut type (though I am sure it has occurred) This is even more a statement since cut type sliders are FAR more common on the track since not all model of bikes need cutting.

Repsol392 · 02-19-2008, 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

cut type sliders are FAR more common on the track since not all model of bikes need cutting.

This is true... cbr is one of the few that requires the fairing to be cut. I have friends with GSX-R's and Yamaha's that don't need to.

DemonRR · 06-10-2008, 9:23 AM

Water Pump : Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycle Forums: 1000RR.net

here ya go guys, proof positive that shogun no cuts are fakin no good. another good bike gats faked up cause of a cheap ass no good shogun slider. this might not have happened with the motovation no-cuts, due to the extra support behind the right side puck and slider bracket. nbow this poor guy has to drop the motor in order to fix the busted water pump.

navyshooter · 06-20-2008, 1:50 PM

DemonRR is right. I did the no-cut on my '05 1krr, don't remember what brand, but the alum. brackets were nice and heavy, very well made. Bike got knocked over by a car while parked. Didn't notice leaking tube until I pulled up to a stop light, put my left foot down, and almost went down myself when my foot slipped in the coolant. This was Phoenix, AZ in August no less. The tube was a major PITA to change. Do yourself a favor, spend the extra $$ and have the cut-style installed if you don't feel comfortable cutting your fairings.

JSquier · 06-20-2008, 3:17 PM

I think ur fairings would look worse with no-cuts if you ever went down. Atleast with direct mount, you have a hole that was put there on purpose.

I have direct mount and cutting them wasn't bad, just a hole saw, dremel and the normal tools and it was a sinch.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...r/CIMG3379.jpg

jpuli28 · 07-23-2008, 3:55 PM

CBR400RR, "I'm a dealer for a lot of slider companies and I install a lot of kits and all are very similar in quality."

Do you carry slider kits for the '08CBR1000RR?

gotama · 08-08-2008, 9:27 PM

anybody know who makes a no cut frame slider for an 06 vfr800 interceptor besides oggy who cant ship to the USA