Who here are members of WERA, or other racing organizations.

Newfie TLR · 03-01-2005, 10:05 AM

Post up here. I'm interested and need some opinions besides the site info.

tigerblade · 03-01-2005, 11:10 AM

I raced CCS the past two years and CRA in 2003.

Tornado bait · 03-01-2005, 11:40 AM

CMRA/CCS

abtech · 03-01-2005, 1:02 PM

WERA member & whoever else still races around here (still waiting to see which way the wind is blowing).

Pete · 03-01-2005, 1:13 PM

I've raced with AMA for the last 5 years, moving to MotoGP this year.

tigerblade · 03-01-2005, 1:16 PM

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... moving to MotoGP this year.

Sweet! Which bike? The Aprilia?

Newfie TLR · 03-01-2005, 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

I've raced with AMA for the last 5 years, moving to MotoGP this year.

COOL Petey, can I be in your pit crew after I get your autograph??

sheepofblue · 03-01-2005, 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

I've raced with AMA for the last 5 years, moving to MotoGP this year.

He meant bike not bench....

oldgoat · 03-01-2005, 2:27 PM

Pete, wake up your dreaming again

abtech · 03-01-2005, 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tigerblade

Sweet! Which bike? The Aprilia?

nope, the "flying turd" . . .

NinerPilot · 03-01-2005, 4:04 PM

Im a corner worker and unofficial pit bitch for a few racers in WERA...
Chris

02FBlade · 03-01-2005, 5:33 PM

Second season w/ CCS....I guess...stil haven't sent in my Lic request. I did hear wera now allows Novices to run litter bikes. That was the reason I stared w/ CCS.

02FBlade · 03-01-2005, 5:34 PM

I'll say this....they both suck in there own unique way!

abtech · 03-01-2005, 5:50 PM

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I'll say this....they both suck in there own unique way!

Truer words were never spoken.

Diesel954 · 03-01-2005, 9:03 PM

CMRA for a couple races last season. Full time this season.

Newfie TLR · 03-02-2005, 4:17 PM

OK, Guys, thanks for your posts.

Basically I see WERA, CCS, CRA and / or CMRA. Are these all intertwined in any way or are they each their own competetive entity?

To start, a friend and I were talking about some racing as a hobby, each with our own bike. There's alot of costs we can share, trailer, travel costs & hotel & such, help each other with repairs, etc as we will be probably in different classes. I'm thinking about running the TLR, and he wants to do 600 or 750.

Do different classes in amateur racing run the same weekend?? I would assume yes.

I know you have to do a racing school of some sort in order to get your racing license, but are there any other hidden qualifications?

To you guys in the Micigan area, how many races do you do a year, and where?? I know of Grattan (

obviously) and I've been to Gingerman (

IMHO), but what else in close?? I mean, we're looking at something we can take a half day off Friday and travel to, then come home Sunday night. Also, what is a normal schedule for qualifying, practice & race, etc?

How competetive would Novice class be?? Are there Rossi wannabe's there who are basically unsafe to be around, or are these people controlled pretty good?

On the average, what are the costs per race over a year?? I'm talking directly bike related only, like entry fees, license upkeep & dues, transponder, tires, gas, maintenance like chains & sprockets, brakes, etc. (Travel is easy to figure out and estimate, the rest isn't.)

Now, many of the above can be answered by travelling to the tracks a couple of times over the summer, meeting racers, and discussing our concerns. But if the answers you guys provide here dampens our spirits at all, I guess we won't bother anybody at the tracks.

Thanks for reading guys, and thanks in advance for the time you spend answering the above.

02FBlade · 03-02-2005, 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Newfie TLR

How competetive would Novice class be?? Are there Rossi wannabe's there who are basically unsafe to be around, or are these people controlled pretty good?

I don't want to dampen your hope...everybody I meant at the track are great guys and everybody helps each other...to an extent. but the novice classes will have the biggest speed differences and there will always be people you don't feel safe around...even some experts! ..learn to pass quick and safe! The middle weights (600s) seem to have the most squids (more red flags) and have the fullest grids. If your running the tiller, I believe you would be in a heavy weight class (for ccs anyways) It's nothing like the squids 600 classes...smaller grids. Honestly, Don't let it worry you, it's part of it. No way around it. You'll usually see the squids in practice and make a mental note to stay out of there way. If someone is really unsafe the org will usually tell that person to watch it.

I can tell you what I spend on an avgerage CCS weekend. Over 1000$ You can get by much cheaper but I go through rear tires quick and run race gas. If you win some certs will really help you...I've races for 300$ one weekend cause I had tire & entry fee certs..just cost me gas/lodging/eats.

500$ New 1 front, 2 rear tires.
3 unlimited classe entries 210$ 70$ per race but gets cheaper after each race for non money classes..70 for the 1st, 50 for the 2nd...mine are paying so it's 70x3.
Gas/race gas. 200 for the truck, 120 for 10gal of race gas.
Hotel....? I try to camp..20$
gate fee 5-10$

Hit the ccsracing site for there rule book it will explain the entry fee costs better....

Newfie TLR · 03-02-2005, 7:13 PM

Thanks Blade, I appreciate the info.

I figured Novice wold be the biggest diff in speed & times, but I didn't realize the smallest grids would be in that class.

What I meant about Rossi Wannabe's in Novice was do the org's control the people with a fast bike but the speed skills of a 4 year old on a tricycle. I'm sure they're out there, but do they get their wrists slapped??

$1000+ a weekend!! $1300+ Canadian. And that's no maintenance except for tires! Gonna to have to think this through. That's an expensive hobby.

abtech · 03-02-2005, 8:59 PM

reprint from long ago:

Definition:

Racebike: Large hole in the ground designed for throwing money into, covering with gasoline and lighting on a regular basis . . .

Newfie TLR · 03-02-2005, 9:16 PM

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Originally Posted by abtech

reprint from long ago:

Definition:

Racebike: Large hole in the ground designed for throwing money into, covering with gasoline and lighting on a regular basis . . .

When it comes to racing, I'm more familiar with:

Sailboat:

A hole in the water into whick you throw large amounts on cash to go nowhere fast while getting wet and / or sunburnt.

Red Rider · 03-02-2005, 9:42 PM

Newf...if you haven't already, you should go to the WERA site for answers to most of your questions. You're lucky...my wife drew the line at racing.

Newfie TLR · 03-02-2005, 9:54 PM

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Newf...if you haven't already, you should go to the WERA site for answers to most of your questions. You're lucky...my wife drew the line at racing.

Trust me Red, I had alot more before I went there. Most of my questions I posted here are more of a personal nature, kind of opinions and personal experiences I guess. It just pisses me off that the closest track is 3-1/2 hours away (but there's three that distance).

I think the thing with Wifey is that her, and the wife of the guy I've been planning this with, are bestest buddies, so it's a weekend away for all 4 of us a few times a year. (plus it keeps me off the golf course for that weekend!!!)

tigerblade · 03-02-2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Newfie TLR

OK, Guys, thanks for your posts.

Basically I see WERA, CCS, CRA and / or CMRA. Are these all intertwined in any way or are they each their own competetive entity?

They're separate entities. CMRA used to be affiliated with CCS until last year. CRA is more of a "club" started at Brainerd in MN but they also run an event or two at Mid-America Motorplex (close to Omaha, NE). If you get your license with one club, all you need to do is pay your fee to get licensed with the others.

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Do different classes in amateur racing run the same weekend?? I would assume yes.

There will typically be two full days of racing per weekend. Your bike should be legal for at least 2 or 3 classes if you keep it under Supersport rules.

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How competetive would Novice class be?? Are there Rossi wannabe's there who are basically unsafe to be around, or are these people controlled pretty good?

Some Novice racers are completely safe and some will scare the hell out of you. Like mentioned before, the Middleweight (600cc) classes are the craziest and will take care of most of the wannabees. I started out on the RC51, so you'd be racing the same classes I did. In my experience, the Heavyweight classes were pretty sane.

Newfie TLR · 03-03-2005, 7:16 AM

How many races do you guys do a year??

For instance, I see 3 at Grattan (including a 6 hour endurance race), 1 at Mid-Ohio and 2 at Garretsville OH. That would seem to be the only races I see that could be consideres local (within a few hours drive).