Road Racing: Club / Amateur: Discussion of Club / Amateur Motorcycle Road Racing, such as AFM, CCS, WSMC, WERA, etc.
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To race or wait to race...
09-16-2006, 1:12 AM
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Join Date: 04-03-2006 Location: battle creek, mi
Bike(s): '03 954 rr, '03 600 rr track bike Age: 30 Posts: 212
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| To race or wait to race... Thinking of getting my race license by Learning Curves. I would like to hit some local races at Gingerman and Grattan next year ('07), while heading out to different tracks via track days so I can learn them before I race(duh!). Since I keep getting kicked off when I go to the WERA page, I was wondering if you racers can help me out. I was wondering what the entry fees usually run, and how you work your way up the "ladder". I have seen that there are usually A, B, C classes for Novice races at Grattan. Are the groups based on qualifying times or what?  Thanks for any help! |
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09-18-2006, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: 11-14-2001 Location: Here
Bike(s): SV650S Posts: 5,710
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| Re: To race or wait to race... I've only raced with CCS and CRA. They do not have separate A, B, and C groups for novices. You are simply gridded in order of entry. Qualifying is typically not used in club racing - takes too long. For CCS, licensing fees are $110/season ($75 after 7/1 and $35 after 9/1). Pre-Entry fees are $70 first entry, $50 second entry, and $35 for each additional. Some classes are $70 entry regardless of how many others you've entered.
Learning Curves is a good place to start. They will answer all your questions. Say hello to Brian McLaughlin for me!
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09-18-2006, 11:38 AM
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Join Date: 02-18-2003 Location: Corpus Chrisit, TX
Bike(s): 2000 Fireblade, 02 GSXR 600 Track Bike (sold) Posts: 402
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| Re: To race or wait to race... A, B and C classes are based on what type of bike your on. Your 600rr can be run in C class. You can also run in a higher class so your 600 can run in B (which is typically for 750 inline 4's) and C class (which will have 1000s). I'm not sure where the twins fall into the classes but they are there too.
Its pretty common for good racers to run their 600's in all 3 classes. I have seen some guys win all three on 600's also.
Every association has there own rules regarding Novice and Expert here are the WERA rules:
Novices finishing in the top 5 in any of their classes at the Grand National Finals and/or in the top five in points in their class in their Region will be advanced to Expert status the following season. Novice riders not meeting the above criteria may apply for advancement to Expert status by submitting a written request to WERA Headquarters, which may or may not be allowed pending review of the rider’s performance and finishes by WERA Headquarters. Riders may decline advancement via writing or email to WERA Headquarters if they feel they are not ready to compete on the Expert level, and may or may not be allowed to retain Novice status pending review of the rider’s performance and finishes by WERA Headquarters.
4. A rider may apply to move down in status from Expert to Novice if: a) he has not competed for more than one year; or b) he is being beaten consistently by Novice riders. Riders may or may not be allowed to move down in status pending review of the rider’s performance and finishes by WERA Headquarters.
For a first time racer you may want to consider the lightweight class. Or maybe even the vintage classes. The slower speeds are more forgiving and you have more time to learn how to corner, pass, the line etc. |
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09-18-2006, 2:02 PM
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Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more! Posts: 4,806
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| Re: To race or wait to race... Quote:
Originally Posted by ucfmotorcycle1
For a first time racer you may want to consider the lightweight class. Or maybe even the vintage classes. The slower speeds are more forgiving and you have more time to learn how to corner, pass, the line etc. | That sounds like pretty good advice to me.. wonder what ND4SPD and Heavy-Dee think about that in retrospect.. |
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09-18-2006, 3:10 PM
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Join Date: 11-14-2001 Location: Here
Bike(s): SV650S Posts: 5,710
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| Re: To race or wait to race... It is good advice. Start on a lightweight and run as much as you can afford. I learned much more in my year racing the SV than on the RC51.
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09-18-2006, 4:08 PM
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Join Date: 02-03-2006 Location: south carolina
Bike(s): no more 954... 636 CCS #59 Posts: 170
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| Re: To race or wait to race... start small... but having a liter bike is not a bad thing... these classes are usually smaller and dont have a lot people compared to the 600 classes.... but just be careful and go out there to win. |
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09-18-2006, 4:11 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: To race or wait to race... Quote:
Originally Posted by CBRVFR That sounds like pretty good advice to me.. wonder what ND4SPD and Heavy-Dee think about that in retrospect.. | I would tend to agree. If I ever return to racing it'll likely be on an SV. |
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