[WetShrub]

Anyone know of a place that sells them cheaper than a regular local shop?

-Shrub

[ND4SPD]

www.discountmotorcycletire.com maybe

[WetShrub]

Doesn't look like they have any....

[tigerblade]

I doubt you can get them by mail/Internet order (though I may be wrong). They probably don't want them in the hands of street riders.

[WetShrub]

Ahhh...I guess I could see that. Eeek said he just goes through the local shop. I guess you could get them race day too. I thought I found a place online a few weeks ago that had them but I can't seem to find it again.

[WetShrub]

????

http://www.barebones.net/tires.htm

http://www.bibmen.com/price.html

http://www.sporttire.com/intro.htm

http://www.streetandcomp.com/index2.htm

[G-Force Junkie]

I get mine from SportTire, but they are at the local races. I think they require you to have a racing licence to buy from them, but I could be wrong.

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie

I get mine from SportTire, but they are at the local races. I think they require you to have a racing licence to buy from them, but I could be wrong.

I just finished filling out my AFM paperwork. It goes out in tomorrows mail.

[Cowboy]

I've always got mine at the track on race weekends. But there are a couple of websites I had bookmarked, unfortunately they're dead links now. One was for Dunlops and the other was California Race Services (Pirelli, Metz, and B-Stones). Anyway it's great to see you're joining the AFM. I'll see you at the end of March!!!

[rawrider]

What Brand were you interested in getting? Do they have to be slicks?

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by rawrider

What Brand were you interested in getting? Do they have to be slicks?

Actually I was just looking for a buddy of mine. I plan on riding some Dragon Supercorsas till I get tire warmers, then I might go with slicks.

-Shrub

[nedro]

Originally Posted by WetShrub

Actually I was just looking for a buddy of mine. I plan on riding some Dragon Supercorsas till I get tire warmers, then I might go with slicks.

-Shrub

If your buddy races, he should already know where to buy them. I like buying them at the track. That way you get current info on the psi and compounds running that day (not like it truelly matters for guys like me. But still nice).

[rawrider]

Originally Posted by WetShrub

Actually I was just looking for a buddy of mine. I plan on riding some Dragon Supercorsas till I get tire warmers, then I might go with slicks.

-Shrub

Well, FWIW, I have @ 5 sets of Pirelli Supercorsa Diablos & 5 sets of Dunlop 208gp's if anyone is interested. All new.

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by nedro

If your buddy races, he should already know where to buy them. I like buying them at the track. That way you get current info on the psi and compounds running that day (not like it truelly matters for guys like me. But still nice).

Actually my buddy has never raced, nor ever done a track day. I tried to convince him to go a similar route that I am going. Try it with the DOT tires first (since he doesn't have tire warmers either) until you get used to the lean angles and speeds. This guy is some what of a moron when it comes to common sense purchases. He is turning his deer totaled F4 into a race bike. At any rate, he wants to know where to get slicks so that he can spend 3 laps each track day and race warming them up so that he can ride a couple laps at good tire temp before having to pit. Stupid.

Edit: He doesn't even have an easy-up yet. Priorities are out of whack. He buys an aftermarket pipe before replacing warped brake rotors...

-Shrub

[nhfirefighter13]

Originally Posted by WetShrub

Actually my buddy has never raced, nor ever done a track day. I tried to convince him to go a similar route that I am going. Try it with the DOT tires first (since he doesn't have tire warmers either) until you get used to the lean angles and speeds. This guy is some what of a moron when it comes to common sense purchases. He is turning his deer totaled F4 into a race bike. At any rate, he wants to know where to get slicks so that he can spend 3 laps each track day and race warming them up so that he can ride a couple laps at good tire temp before having to pit. Stupid.

Edit: He doesn't even have an easy-up yet. Priorities are out of whack. He buys an aftermarket pipe before replacing warped brake rotors...

-Shrub

INTERVENTION! INTERVENNNNNNNTION!!!!!
Your friend is going to get himself killed. Baby steps...

[abtech]

This is one case where I wish the Tire Dealers would hold the line about not selling to anyone who is not a licensed racer in a recognized organization. But then I wish drug dealers didn't sell to kids either . . .

[Nick the Quick]

Just tell your friend to get a set of Michelin H2s. They really are great tires. Slicks are for people who need them. Until your friend starts blistering some Track/Street tires he wont need slicks. The H2s really are basically slicks, just some little cresent treads between the center and edge of tire.

[tigerblade]

Originally Posted by WetShrub

Edit: He doesn't even have an easy-up yet. Priorities are out of whack. He buys an aftermarket pipe before replacing warped brake rotors...

-Shrub

He won't replace warped rotors? Just wait until the brake lever hits the bar going into T1...

[WetShrub]

You are right, the guy is a little whacked in the dome. He is a very good street rider but a little aggressive sometimes. The only problem is he is also very stubborn when he thinks he is right. He won't take advice from some one more experienced. I don't think of myself as extremely experienced but I do take advice and try to make the most sensible choices about riding and racing. This guy just gets something set in his mind and goes for it. He even gets offended when people tell him he is making a mistake. He has a lot of riding skill and I think he would do great on the track but he also needs to take advice from people regarding the logistics instead of just learning from trial by error. I keep telling him to just do 1 track day on regular tires before doing anything else. He won't listen. I know his street speeds will slow after his first track day. He will also get a big lesson on track speeds vs. street speeds. He just has no concept yet of what the difference is. Hopefully he figures it out before the racing season.

-Shrub

[nedro]

He doesn't sound like someone I'd want on the track at the same time I'm on the track. He maybe prime Darwin material (sorry).

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by nedro

He doesn't sound like someone I'd want on the track at the same time I'm on the track. He maybe prime Darwin material (sorry).

He is a friend but not a great friend. I agree, he could be Darwin material. Hell, this year alone he has killed a deer and a turkey. The deer turned his street F4 into a track bike. The turkey just left a bunch of feathers in his new R1. Didn't go down either time though. Like I said, he is stupid but very skilled.

EDIT: Just got a note from him. The voice of reason has prevailed for once. He convinced himself not to do it for totally different reasons so he still looks like he is correct:

"Bridgestone slicks have a DOT number . Hmm yeah I am not sure I do want them now. The heat cycle thing is a little worrying too. Maybe I will just get some GPs or something. They are pretty damn expensive too though. They do have cycle issues too though."

[Red Rider]

It's funny how the fast street guys learn very quickly how slow they really are when the ride on the track for the first time. Anybody can twist the wrist in a straight line..it's the turns that freak them out!

[Newfie TLR]

If he's never been on a track, how does he know he needs slicks, let alone know how to handle the bike with them on it??

Personally, and that's all I can speak for, I've been at Grattan on the TLR with BT 010's on. I'm 300#, I've gotten knees down, and left no strips on the edges of the back tire.

Now, I ain't saying I'm good, 'cause I know I'm far from that, and probably never will be classed as such. All I'm saying is if I can do that, riding within my comfort level, and having a blast, why the hell would anybody want slicks to have the blast I'm having?? I understand that some club racers use track days as a tuning day, so they will run the same tires they'll run on the race days, only the sensible thing to do. But for the ordinary Joe to invest in the limited life of slicks and a set of warmers is totally beyond me unless he has the skill set and the cash to back all that up.

Would I love to go around the track looking/feeling like Foggy or Rossi?? Sure I would. But you have to be sensible and check the scales with Risk & Cost on one side and reward on the other. To me, it ain't worth it.

But, that's just my $0.02 worth.

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by Newfie TLR

If he's never been on a track, how does he know he needs slicks, let alone know how to handle the bike with them on it??

Personally, and that's all I can speak for, I've been at Grattan on the TLR with BT 010's on. I'm 300#, I've gotten knees down, and left no strips on the edges of the back tire.

Now, I ain't saying I'm good, 'cause I know I'm far from that, and probably never will be classed as such. All I'm saying is if I can do that, riding within my comfort level, and having a blast, why the hell would anybody want slicks to have the blast I'm having?? I understand that some club racers use track days as a tuning day, so they will run the same tires they'll run on the race days, only the sensible thing to do. But for the ordinary Joe to invest in the limited life of slicks and a set of warmers is totally beyond me unless he has the skill set and the cash to back all that up.

Would I love to go around the track looking/feeling like Foggy or Rossi?? Sure I would. But you have to be sensible and check the scales with Risk & Cost on one side and reward on the other. To me, it ain't worth it.

But, that's just my $0.02 worth.

Agreed.

This guy is talented. He has had his knee on the ground plenty of times....just on the street. He will take to the track like a fish to water and I have no doubt he will be fast but only after he gets used to the speeds, environment, thought processes, etc. I told him it's SO different that you won't want to ride on the street much after that. It's something that you can't describe to some one, they just have to experience it. Right now he is just ignorant and is making decisions like he is well informed. I'm just glad I got him to stick with a 208GP for now. It will work much better for him.

-Shrub

[abtech]

If this guy gets his knee down on the street, chances are he will be flunked out of any "real" racer school. I see this from time to time where a kid shows up with worn pucks and says he's never been on the track before. Second time out on the track, he's trying to "teach the class" and if he doesn't bin himself and someone else, then he is getting warned after every session. I know of two people that sound very much like your friend who have been permanently banned from Grattan as well as CCS nationally. One of them had his race license seized and cut in half at the riders meeting after being warned twice and then t-boning 2 other riders during novice heavyweight practice on raceday.

Skilled or not, you need to use your head and follow directions or you are a hazard to yourself and everyone else on the track.

[WetShrub]

Originally Posted by abtech

If this guy gets his knee down on the street, chances are he will be flunked out of any "real" racer school. I see this from time to time where a kid shows up with worn pucks and says he's never b