Interesting quote from Colin

deez · 04-06-2004, 5:33 PM

There are also a few words of Colin about Rossis importance for HRC.
Colin: “Valentinos Barcelona testimes were impressive. I didn’t guess that Yamaha is improving so much so fast. ….I don’t want to say that HRC is going into the wrong direction with the development of the RCV, but one problem is that Barros has never ridden the 2003-RCV….. Valentino was very precise in development. He told HRC exactly which new components are good and which are crap….. I just want to say without Valentino there ‘re more unanswered questions, no exact statements anymore.”

Wow Baketech, I guess Rossi is quite the Don of development after all

bwhip · 04-06-2004, 7:02 PM

I also liked the recent quote I read (I don't remember where

) that mentioned how it was good for MotoGP that Rossi moved to Yamaha so that it didn't become a boring Michael Schumacher/F1 Ferrari situation. Probably true. I sure didn't expect him to be making a difference so quickly, but I guess nothing the Doctor does should surprise me anymore.

Baketech · 04-06-2004, 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

Wow Baketech, I guess Rossi is quite the Don of development after all

Not sure how that statement supports your assertion.....but troll on my sycophantic friend.....

deez · 04-06-2004, 7:21 PM

Nahh, he didn't develop the bike, HRC did it all

Baketech · 04-06-2004, 7:27 PM

LOL...HRC has better test riders on the payroll than many of the MGP teams....

That aside, I bet a sawbuck that you have never personally developed a product, and hence would not understand the process anyway....

Back at ya.....

ccwilli3 · 04-09-2004, 10:16 AM

that quote also tells me that HRC isn't listening a whole lot to colin/sete/max/tomada, they are looking to barros (mainly) and maybe nicky for their input on the bikes...

Sucks if you ask me...

roadrunner954 · 04-09-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

LOL...HRC has better test riders on the payroll than many of the MGP teams....

That aside, I bet a sawbuck that you have never personally developed a product, and hence would not understand the process anyway....

Back at ya.....

matt232 · 04-09-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

Wow Baketech, I guess Rossi is quite the Don of development after all

Are you sure its just him, he took most of his team with him to yamaha so I'd say that is where most of this improvement in the machine has come from.

ccwilli3 · 04-09-2004, 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by matt232

Are you sure its just him, he took most of his team with him to yamaha so I'd say that is where most of this improvement in the machine has come from.

I agree with that too, rossi isn't a one man show and I don't think anyone really discounts the effect his crew has on him... I mean, checa is on the same bike and he and the rest of the yammies are WAAAYY off the pace...

deez · 04-09-2004, 4:05 PM

No, I fully realized the development cycle. You've got test riders on the payroll, engineers hard at work, and a team providing data from the bike to the engineers. Baketech had implied that Rossi didn't develop **** when it came to the RC211v. In fact he did, working together with Burgess, the team, and the engineers. It takes all parts to sort a bike. And I was just busting Baketech's balls. From what Colin said, Rossi is actually very good at developing a bike, and he should know (SP1/SP2).

BDA116 · 04-09-2004, 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

................. and he should know.....

I just wanted to point out that knowing is half the battle.
Go Joe!!!

Baketech · 04-09-2004, 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

Baketech had implied that Rossi didn't develop **** when it came to the RC211v.

Sorry for the misunderstanding...but I never "implied" it...I said it....

You read too many rags....if you understood **** about product development, you would know that Rossi's input was minimal compared to the rest of the picture.....they made him feel involved in the process to stroke his massive ego and facilitate him winning the championship...case closed...

risc32 · 04-10-2004, 10:35 AM

That flies in the face of everything i've ever read, and Val's record. He's the man, with no real current rival.

Baketech · 04-10-2004, 10:39 AM

This is my fish...get your line out of the pond....

risc32 · 04-10-2004, 9:46 PM

I spelled flys, "flies"!! ha!
oh, baketech....

deez · 04-10-2004, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Sorry for the misunderstanding...but I never "implied" it...I said it....

You read too many rags....if you understood **** about product development, you would know that Rossi's input was minimal compared to the rest of the picture.....they made him feel involved in the process to stroke his massive ego and facilitate him winning the championship...case closed...

Yup just like his input with the M1 yielded better results than riders on it a full season.

The big picture as you put it so eloquently Mr. shitstir, is that Rossi is an integral part of the whole process. In other words, to you, the riders are complete pawns when it comes to development. I beg to differ, they might be at one end of the spectrum, but their expertise, and opinion on bike/part development matters a whole damn lot. But I guess you know more than a two time world championship winner, because your opinion differs greatly from CE's comments above. All hail Baketech

oldgoat · 04-11-2004, 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Not sure how that statement supports your assertion.....but troll on my sycophantic friend.....

If Rossi can go a second faster than his team mates in testing, he must be doing SOMETHING right !! Only time will tell.

Baketech · 04-11-2004, 7:33 AM

This is too easy....