How to get 200rwhp without a turbo unit ?

cbr rr · 05-03-2004, 3:49 PM

How do the AMA Superbike racers get so much HP without a turbo ?

ND4SPD · 05-03-2004, 3:51 PM

EDIT: Oh yeah, and about $250,000 worth of PARTS and short little Japanese guys in white labcoats.

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Originally Posted by cbr rr

How do the AMA Superbike racers get so much HP without a turbo ?

luvtolean · 05-03-2004, 3:52 PM

An engine is just an air pump. More air in and more out makes more power.

Higher RPM, better flowing heads, cams, exhaust all to match and you get it. GSXR 1000's aren't too hard to get close to 200 (well 180 is easy anyway). We'll see how the new 1000RR responds.

deez · 05-03-2004, 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

An engine is just an air pump. More air in and more out makes more power.

Higher RPM, better flowing heads, cams, exhaust all to match and you get it. GSXR 1000's aren't too hard to get close to 200 (well 180 is easy anyway). We'll see how the new 1000RR responds.

Just get the new R1, it already makes 180HP, well according to the mfr. it does (and Taz)

Kuss929 · 05-03-2004, 4:59 PM

You have to remember also that all these street machines that we ride are detuned if you will so that they will last for more than 100 miles.

Trackho · 05-03-2004, 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

An engine is just an air pump. More air in and more out makes more power.

Higher RPM, better flowing heads, cams, exhaust all to match and you get it. GSXR 1000's aren't too hard to get close to 200 (well 180 is easy anyway). We'll see how the new 1000RR responds.

There is an article floating around (motorush) on Vermulens Ken Tate 1000RR, w/HRC pistons, cams, ecu, exhaust. They were putting "well over" 200HP (at the rear wheel)--Ill post a link when I find it

gg_turner · 05-15-2004, 8:43 AM

I've seen the article that 929boomer is talking about, It basically said that with $20,000 worth of HRC stuff, a slipper clutch and some custom gear work, that a 1000RR was making "well over 200hp" , the guy from the mag. said "this is at the crank right?" and the guy from the team said, "I'll just say its a t well over 200hp at the wheel" he wouldn't give exact numbers. From that I would the the 100RR is capable of 200hp with a LOT less stuff then the 954, there is however the bottle. Alot of the race bikes must be torn down after every day of racing for new pistons and rings, if not more. Oh and the little asian fellas in white coats are like motorcycle gnomes.

matt232 · 05-15-2004, 10:33 AM

The article is from Australian Motor Cycle News Vol 53 No 19 April 9 - 22 2004

The person who said "Let's just say that its got more than 200 horsepower - and thats at the rear wheel." was Ronald Ten Kate himself.

Dutch Courage Article

Unfortunately this article doesn't have the Watzitcost? Panel which lists all the bit but I can tell you that its over $AU30K plus the cost of the 1000RR itself.

fl-929 · 05-19-2004, 12:44 PM

Here's an interview with Vermeulen from Soup link

Highest topspeed ever at Monza (for SBK's)