Home Marketplace Articles FAQ Gallery Arcade

 Discount Parts  - Honda CBR's - Exhaust Systems - CBR Eliminators - Helmets - Boots - Motorcycle Insurance

Join FireBlades.org! Unanswered Posts New Posts Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org Forums > Motorcycle Racing > Road Racing: Professional

Road Racing: Professional: Discussion of Professional Motorcycle Road Racing, such as MotoGP, AMA, World SuperBike, etc.
Forgot your User Name or Password?
Not a member? Join today!





Laguna Seca

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-09-2004, 3:22 PM
  #1
 
Join Date: 01-12-2004
Location: San Luis Obispo
Bike(s): cbr600f1 cbr954rr (sold), parts of GSXR600
Age: 37
Posts: 74
Rep: johnnyboym is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 5
Laguna Seca

I love it, first practice for WSB and the fasted rider would currently be gridded 5th in AMA superstock! It'll be interesting to see how times compare this weekend between AMA and WSB. Also maybe E Bos will have a chance since he loves this track and michelin has some experience here.

johnnyboym is offline  
View johnnyboym's Profile View johnnyboym's Gallery Find More Posts by johnnyboym
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-09-2004, 3:42 PM
  #2
 
Join Date: 07-31-2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Bike(s): '03 954 SOLD - '04 ZX10r Black
Posts: 208
Rep: mickyboy is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 7
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyboym
I love it, first practice for WSB and the fasted rider would currently be gridded 5th in AMA superstock! It'll be interesting to see how times compare this weekend between AMA and WSB. Also maybe E Bos will have a chance since he loves this track and michelin has some experience here.
Doesn't everyone have to run Pirellis ?
mickyboy is offline  
View mickyboy's Profile View mickyboy's Gallery Find More Posts by mickyboy
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-09-2004, 3:59 PM
  #3
 
Join Date: 01-12-2004
Location: San Luis Obispo
Bike(s): cbr600f1 cbr954rr (sold), parts of GSXR600
Age: 37
Posts: 74
Rep: johnnyboym is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 5
Re: Laguna Seca

I mean in AMA. He's had a tough year on the Ducati. It really too bad, there are going to be no american wild card riders this year. I think that is one of the biggest draw backs of the pirelli spec tire rule. That and first practice session times are 1.4 seconds off of last year.
johnnyboym is offline  
View johnnyboym's Profile View johnnyboym's Gallery Find More Posts by johnnyboym
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-10-2004, 10:35 AM
  #4
Mr. Brownstone
 
Join Date: 02-07-2002
Location: UT
Bike(s): 05 600RR
Posts: 10,531
Rep: BDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant future (1823)
Rep Power: 35
Re: Laguna Seca

Zemke's 600 RR time would put him on pole in the old has been series of WSB. What a joke the series has truly become!!
Hey everyone, come watch a bunch of has beens and youngsters stuck going nowhere compete with their spec "superbikes" against the FX series riders! Watch as the lowly AMA regulars destroy the mighty duck patrol.
BDA116 is offline  
View BDA116's Profile View BDA116's Gallery Find More Posts by BDA116 My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-10-2004, 9:26 PM
  #5
Mr. Brownstone
 
Join Date: 02-07-2002
Location: UT
Bike(s): 05 600RR
Posts: 10,531
Rep: BDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant future (1823)
Rep Power: 35
Re: Laguna Seca

Look at that, the friggin has-beens in the POS "World Superbike" series can't even break top five times of the AMA Superbike pilots.
Posers.
BDA116 is offline  
View BDA116's Profile View BDA116's Gallery Find More Posts by BDA116 My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-10-2004, 10:54 PM
  #6
 
CBR929RE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-06-2004
Location: Randolph, MA
Bike(s): 01 R/B 929
Age: 27
Posts: 12,216
Rep: CBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to behold (909)
Rep Power: 26
Send a message via AIM to CBR929RE
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyboym
I mean in AMA. He's had a tough year on the Ducati. It really too bad, there are going to be no american wild card riders this year. I think that is one of the biggest draw backs of the pirelli spec tire rule. That and first practice session times are 1.4 seconds off of last year.
what series are you talking about because in all AMA series there's an american in the hunt, Superbike and Formula Xtreme has Jake Zemke in the top 3, Supersport is lead by the Haydens and in Superstock Jamie Hacking and Tommy Hayden are 1 and 2.
__________________
He's not Judge Judy and executioner.
CBR929RE is offline  
View CBR929RE's Profile View CBR929RE's Gallery Find More Posts by CBR929RE My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-11-2004, 2:35 PM
  #7
 
929_Nupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-03-2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale , Florida
Bike(s): 2K1 CBR 929RR- SOLD
Age: 32
Posts: 1,500
Rep: 929_Nupe is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 6
Send a message via AIM to 929_Nupe Send a message via MSN to 929_Nupe
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
what series are you talking about because in all AMA series there's an american in the hunt, Superbike and Formula Xtreme has Jake Zemke in the top 3, Supersport is lead by the Haydens and in Superstock Jamie Hacking and Tommy Hayden are 1 and 2.

He means riders to mix it up with the world group...


Is anyone watching the Hayden boys ride the wheels off these zx10
929_Nupe is offline  
View 929_Nupe's Profile View 929_Nupe's Gallery Visit 929_Nupe's homepage! Find More Posts by 929_Nupe
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-11-2004, 5:09 PM
  #8
 
CBR929RE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-06-2004
Location: Randolph, MA
Bike(s): 01 R/B 929
Age: 27
Posts: 12,216
Rep: CBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to behold (909)
Rep Power: 26
Send a message via AIM to CBR929RE
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by 929_Nupe
He means riders to mix it up with the world group...


Is anyone watching the Hayden boys ride the wheels off these zx10
they're riding the wheels off the zx6 also
__________________
He's not Judge Judy and executioner.
CBR929RE is offline  
View CBR929RE's Profile View CBR929RE's Gallery Find More Posts by CBR929RE My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-11-2004, 10:30 PM
  #9
 
Join Date: 02-13-2004
Location: Lansvale Sydney Australia
Bike(s): CBR600RR
Age: 36
Posts: 1,340
Rep: The Sook is on a distinguished road (45)
Rep Power: 6
Re: Laguna Seca

Yee Haa. Vermulen. Go the aussies. I said at the start that the CBR is only gonna get better, and now it's up there winning, I rekon Chris can take it out. As for going nowhere.....I bet Chris is in G.P's in 2006.
The Pirelli rule wasn't placed to make the lap times faster, rather to keep the racing closer. Put your ama boys on the same tyres and see what they do then. Also, could someone please have the common decency to make sure they have the national fuking anthem for all countries ready besides the USA's? Waltzing Matilda is NOT our anthem . If we did that to you guys at PI, you'd be bombing us and saying how disrespectful we are. Ha
The Sook is offline  
View The Sook's Profile View The Sook's Gallery Find More Posts by The Sook
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 1:42 AM
  #10
 
Join Date: 04-11-2004
Location: sydney, but most important, next to a race track!
Bike(s): 03' 954(street) and 05' R6(track)
Age: 30
Posts: 39
Rep: itchy is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 0
Re: Laguna Seca

Well put Sook.
itchy is offline  
View itchy's Profile View itchy's Gallery Find More Posts by itchy
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 3:17 AM
  #11
 
Proto's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-26-2002
Location: Oxford UK
Bike(s): CBR954RR & BSA Bantam D1 (1953!!) and a LOOK 585
Posts: 1,487
Rep: Proto is a glorious beacon of lightProto is a glorious beacon of lightProto is a glorious beacon of lightProto is a glorious beacon of lightProto is a glorious beacon of light (450)
Rep Power: 12
Re: Laguna Seca

Have any of you aussies seen the film "The Dish". If you have, the scene where the High School band plays the US national anthem to the visiting US Ambassador, but launch into the Hawaii 5-0 theme instead, must have struck a, ahemm, chord.

Great film btw.

Saw another good Australian film last week, Japanese Story. Try and see it, well worth the effort. Toni Colette is a brilliant actress. Very moving film.

Last edited by Proto : 07-12-2004 at 3:19 AM.
Proto is offline  
View Proto's Profile View Proto's Gallery Find More Posts by Proto
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 6:44 AM
  #12
 
Baketech's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-10-2002
Location: Hoosierland, USA
Bike(s): CBR929 - VFR800 - VFR800
Posts: 11,098
Rep: Baketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud of (1302)
Rep Power: 31
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sook
Yee Haa. Vermulen. Go the aussies. I said at the start that the CBR is only gonna get better, and now it's up there winning, I rekon Chris can take it out. As for going nowhere.....I bet Chris is in G.P's in 2006.
The Pirelli rule wasn't placed to make the lap times faster, rather to keep the racing closer. Put your ama boys on the same tyres and see what they do then. Also, could someone please have the common decency to make sure they have the national fuking anthem for all countries ready besides the USA's? Waltzing Matilda is NOT our anthem . If we did that to you guys at PI, you'd be bombing us and saying how disrespectful we are. Ha
Since when was the sanctioning body of WSB American....


Edit:
I didn't think they played the rider's anthem in WSB anyway....thought it was the manufacturer's....
__________________
Sith Apprentice
CBR929 - VFR800 - VFR800
"There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one..." - Joey Dunlop

Last edited by Baketech : 07-12-2004 at 6:46 AM.
Baketech is offline  
View Baketech's Profile View Baketech's Gallery Visit Baketech's homepage! Find More Posts by Baketech
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 8:01 AM
  #13
Just repeating what ever I hear...
 
Heavy-Dee's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-28-2003
Location: Nose in a book...
Bike(s): 2004 GSXR 600
Age: 31
Posts: 6,319
Rep: Heavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud ofHeavy-Dee has much to be proud of (1112)
Rep Power: 23
Send a message via AIM to Heavy-Dee
Re: Laguna Seca

Edit:
I didn't think they played the rider's anthem in WSB anyway....thought it was the manufacturer's.... [/quote]


That is correct.
Heavy-Dee is offline  
View Heavy-Dee's Profile View Heavy-Dee's Gallery Visit Heavy-Dee's homepage! Find More Posts by Heavy-Dee My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 10:15 AM
  #14
Mr. Brownstone
 
Join Date: 02-07-2002
Location: UT
Bike(s): 05 600RR
Posts: 10,531
Rep: BDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant future (1823)
Rep Power: 35
Re: Laguna Seca

And putting our top guys on Pirellis would make them only one second faster rather than two or three.
Whether those WSB B-rates were on Pirellies, Michelins or Dunlops had our top riders been racing WSB with them the podium would have been all AMA riders.
WSB is full of nobodies, if you can't deal with it that's your problem.
BDA116 is offline  
View BDA116's Profile View BDA116's Gallery Find More Posts by BDA116 My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 11:00 AM
  #15
 
Join Date: 07-20-2002
Location: Sacramento, CA
Bike(s): R/B 929, SV650 (race)
Posts: 1,838
Rep: WetShrub will become famous soon enoughWetShrub will become famous soon enough (114)
Rep Power: 9
Re: Laguna Seca

Vermuelen was awesome! Amazing racing. However, don't you think his bike has probably gotten quite a bit more backing from Honda in the past couple weeks/months since he has shown some good results.

It's totally clear that kid is going some where! Great racer.

My friends and I were thinking the same thing about the anthem. Pretty funny stuff. The P.A. system was f*cked up all day anyway. Surprised anyone even knew when the race was going to start.

Too bad the a lot of the local privateers crashed while riding really well in the AMA Superbike race and 600 Supersport races.
WetShrub is offline  
View WetShrub's Profile View WetShrub's Gallery Find More Posts by WetShrub
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 12:21 PM
  #16
2 up @ Grattan
 
Tornado bait's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-05-2001
Location: Nantuckit
Bike(s): 2005 600RR
Age: 44
Posts: 1,555
Rep: Tornado bait is a glorious beacon of lightTornado bait is a glorious beacon of lightTornado bait is a glorious beacon of lightTornado bait is a glorious beacon of lightTornado bait is a glorious beacon of lightTornado bait is a glorious beacon of light (500)
Rep Power: 13
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by WetShrub
Vermuelen was awesome! Amazing racing. However, don't you think his bike has probably gotten quite a bit more backing from Honda in the past couple weeks/months since he has shown some good results.

It's totally clear that kid is going some where! Great racer.
Yeah it was great to see the RR take back to back WSB wins.
Too bad Zemke's bike was puking all over the place in the AMA superbike. I'd have liked to seen him and Duhamel all over the points instead of Mladin. Although Ben made a great showing for the RR.
Tornado bait is offline  
View Tornado bait's Profile View Tornado bait's Gallery Find More Posts by Tornado bait
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 3:22 PM
  #17
Fig
Newton
 
Fig's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-01-2001
Location: Saugus, Ca.
Bike(s): 929RRR
Posts: 803
Rep: Fig will become famous soon enoughFig will become famous soon enough (123)
Rep Power: 8
Re: Laguna Seca

What a weekend. Here's Vermulen on the 1000RR...
Fig
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_4563_01b.JPG
Views:	39
Size:	83.1 KB
ID:	5845  
Fig is offline  
View Fig's Profile View Fig's Gallery Visit Fig's homepage! Find More Posts by Fig My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 5:30 PM
  #18
 
CBR929RE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-06-2004
Location: Randolph, MA
Bike(s): 01 R/B 929
Age: 27
Posts: 12,216
Rep: CBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to behold (909)
Rep Power: 26
Send a message via AIM to CBR929RE
Re: Laguna Seca

ok Ben Bostrom is in 6th overall in AMA Superbike, I didn't even notice he came back from world superbike, is this his first year back?
__________________
He's not Judge Judy and executioner.
CBR929RE is offline  
View CBR929RE's Profile View CBR929RE's Gallery Find More Posts by CBR929RE My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 5:35 PM
  #19
 
deez's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-26-2002
Location: DeeFDubya
Posts: 6,094
Rep: deez will become famous soon enoughdeez will become famous soon enough (137)
Rep Power: 14
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
ok Ben Bostrom is in 6th overall in AMA Superbike, I didn't even notice he came back from world superbike, is this his first year back?
No, he was here last year as well. He couldn't ride the RC for chit, so he didn't do much last year. The announcers during the Superbike race were killing me, "Bostrum won the title back in 1998 without winning a race"
deez is offline  
View deez's Profile View deez's Gallery Find More Posts by deez
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-12-2004, 5:57 PM
  #20
 
CBR929RE's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-06-2004
Location: Randolph, MA
Bike(s): 01 R/B 929
Age: 27
Posts: 12,216
Rep: CBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to beholdCBR929RE is a splendid one to behold (909)
Rep Power: 26
Send a message via AIM to CBR929RE
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by booth23
No, he was here last year as well. He couldn't ride the RC for chit, so he didn't do much last year. The announcers during the Superbike race were killing me, "Bostrum won the title back in 1998 without winning a race"
awesome, I should call into work tomorrow just to stay home and watch the repeats of the races cause I sure as hell won't rush to get my route done early (I shouldn't have to totally bust my ass to get done at a decent time, besides the toe that I think I broke like a month ago still isn't better so no sense running around on that)
__________________
He's not Judge Judy and executioner.

Last edited by CBR929RE : 07-12-2004 at 6:02 PM.
CBR929RE is offline  
View CBR929RE's Profile View CBR929RE's Gallery Find More Posts by CBR929RE My Map Location
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-13-2004, 2:17 AM
  #21
 
Join Date: 02-13-2004
Location: Lansvale Sydney Australia
Bike(s): CBR600RR
Age: 36
Posts: 1,340
Rep: The Sook is on a distinguished road (45)
Rep Power: 6
Re: Laguna Seca

And since when is Waltzing Mafukintilda the Japanese national anthem then? They play both the rider and the manufacturer anthems. The point is, that they get it right everywhere else in the world, but the U.S? Nah, it's the series organiser that fuks it up. .............yeah. right. hahaha You got nuthin'.
As for support? No way. That bike is way more standard than the ama CBR's that get full HRC support. It's just taken a while for them to figure it out, and now they they have, Chris is gonna be hard to beat from here on in. As for wsbk hacks and ama pro's ? Bahahahahahaha. Yeah, at YOUR home track. Everywhere else they'd get spanked. Pirelli's or not.
The Sook is offline  
View The Sook's Profile View The Sook's Gallery Find More Posts by The Sook
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-13-2004, 2:22 AM
  #22
 
Join Date: 07-31-2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Bike(s): '03 954 SOLD - '04 ZX10r Black
Posts: 208
Rep: mickyboy is on a distinguished road (10)
Rep Power: 7
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sook
And since when is Waltzing Mafukintilda the Japanese national anthem then? They play both the rider and the manufacturer anthems. The point is, that they get it right everywhere else in the world, but the U.S? Nah, it's the series organiser that fuks it up. .............yeah. right. hahaha You got nuthin'.
As for support? No way. That bike is way more standard than the ama CBR's that get full HRC support. It's just taken a while for them to figure it out, and now they they have, Chris is gonna be hard to beat from here on in. As for wsbk hacks and ama pro's ? Bahahahahahaha. Yeah, at YOUR home track. Everywhere else they'd get spanked. Pirelli's or not.
mickyboy is offline  
View mickyboy's Profile View mickyboy's Gallery Find More Posts by mickyboy
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-13-2004, 6:35 AM
  #23
 
Baketech's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-10-2002
Location: Hoosierland, USA
Bike(s): CBR929 - VFR800 - VFR800
Posts: 11,098
Rep: Baketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud ofBaketech has much to be proud of (1302)
Rep Power: 31
Re: Laguna Seca

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sook
And since when is Waltzing Mafukintilda the Japanese national anthem then? They play both the rider and the manufacturer anthems. The point is, that they get it right everywhere else in the world, but the U.S? Nah, it's the series organiser that fuks it up. .............yeah. right. hahaha You got nuthin'.
As for support? No way. That bike is way more standard than the ama CBR's that get full HRC support. It's just taken a while for them to figure it out, and now they they have, Chris is gonna be hard to beat from here on in. As for wsbk hacks and ama pro's ? Bahahahahahaha. Yeah, at YOUR home track. Everywhere else they'd get spanked. Pirelli's or not.
__________________
Sith Apprentice
CBR929 - VFR800 - VFR800
"There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one..." - Joey Dunlop
Baketech is offline  
View Baketech's Profile View Baketech's Gallery Visit Baketech's homepage! Find More Posts by Baketech
Reply With Quote Go To Top
Old 07-13-2004, 10:44 AM
  #24
Mr. Brownstone
 
Join Date: 02-07-2002
Location: UT
Bike(s): 05 600RR
Posts: 10,531
Rep: BDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant futureBDA116 has a brilliant future (1823)
Rep Power: 35
Re: Laguna Seca

Yeah, the home track that the AMA never uses except for the WSB weekend? The one where the WSB riders get more track time than the AMA riders.
The track record is 1:24.88, set by Colin in 2002 in his pimped out "RC51". Bostrom clocked a 1:24.9. How close has any rider in the WSB come to any track record this season or last - when they could use other tires and didn't have the Biaggi-esque excuse? The poser series has sucked ass for the last two seasons, and if the AMA regs would knock the WSB posers off the podium at every round, on every track, Pirellis or not. Keep on crying, Matilda.
BDA116 is offline