Colin Edwards explanations

nedro · 09-09-2004, 12:14 PM

Oh God that was funny Sook!

luvtolean · 09-09-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

as far as that tire stuff goes, I'd be wicked pissed off if I found out they wouldn't let me have a certain tire and even lied to me about it.

This is how it always is. Even at the amateur level, the "fast guys" get better tires than us slower guys.

I was always fighting Dunlop(e) slicks for roundness which contributed to stability "issues". A friend "gifted" me a new 16.5" slick that came directly out of a very prominent AMA team's garage. I spun it and it was PERFECTLY round. Then I looked for balance weights on the wheel, it didn't need any. It was also a compound you couldn't buy at the time. (Dunlop had to give them to you as a sponsored guy) That tire made the bike work much better.

luvtolean · 09-09-2004, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sook

Yeah, you guys know how it all works huh. Hahahahahaha what a laugh. Yep. True champions like Rossi, win on sub standard machinery. Yep. Rossi won all those titles on the worst Honda in the paddock. hashahahahaha You guys are fukt , really.

"Just step up to the plate" on a **** box. Yeah........you think Rossi would win on the WCM? NO.
Batetech, Colin would NEVER have had the Repsol job last year you idiot. Honda America payed for Nicky's ride. It was never OPEN to anyone. Colin IS a HRC preferred rider. For those of you that DON'T know, which is most of you by the sounds of it, Honda don't just fork out these parts to everyone. The teams PAY for them. (except Repsol) Do you KNOW how much a HRC chassis costs? I do. I doubt Fausto will cough up for 2.
BDA, you know 5/8ths of 5/10ths of fuk all. How many times has Colin finished in front of Hayden and Barros? Plenty. and is in front of them both in the championship. I'd say that's getting their arses handed to them. And if you think Honda wouldn't be pissed at the fact that their factory team are getting whipped either in the race or the points, you're a dill.

Please tell me which past champs have won on far WORSE machinery? Hahahaha That's funny. Worse than these bikes ? Yep. Worse than everyone elses? No fukin way.

Whatever dude.

On top of abtech's list, even KR Jr took a bike that wasn't really the best at anything and put together a championship.

If Honda was pissed about Nicky's performance, they'd sack him.

The fact is Colin has become a whiner, and it defeats him before he hits the track.

TGZ13 · 09-09-2004, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Whatever dude.

On top of abtech's list, even KR Jr took a bike that wasn't really the best at anything and put together a championship.

If Honda was pissed about Nicky's performance, they'd sack him.

The fact is Colin has become a whiner, and it defeats him before he hits the track.

Well said

CBR929RE · 09-09-2004, 9:18 PM

maybe CE should go to the WSBK (thats where he was before right?), they're the ones all running pirelli's to even out the competition right?

WetShrub · 09-09-2004, 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikMike

I think the guy is an awesome rider and probably an even better person, but the fact remains he has been disappointing this year....I respect Nicky b/c even when he was in 3rd or 4th on occasions this year, he outright said, "I just couldn't go any faster" or "those guy were too fast for me"...instead of, "I been having chatter problems all weekend" or "I need a new chassis"...not knocking the dude, just recounting the facts...and the "Up Yours" comment was out of line in my opinion as well b/c he didn't win a damn thing!!! you got second, Colin!!! I understand your elation on your first podium, but be humble about it....anyways, my flame suit is on....so have at it...

Difference between Nicky and CE is Nicky can afford to have learning year/s. Colin needs to be making his major career victories right now and can't blame anything on inexperience and youth. If he said "I just couldn't go any faster" then Honda may not be willing to wait a year or two like they are with the younger riders full of potential.

-Shrub

The Sook · 09-10-2004, 2:03 AM

That's EXACTLY what he DID say after Donington. But oh yeah, that doesn't fit in with your "he's a sook" theory now does it.

Abtech , that's 3 champions out of how many? Rossi has won ALL of his so far on the BEST bike in the paddock by far, yet he's a GOD........... Bullshit.

Abtech, if you're involved in racing to the level I thought you were, you KNOW what I'm talking about. I know one of Colins best mates (lives in Melbourne) very well, I get all the inside news etc...............you guys would fukin freak if you knew the whole story about what goes on in gp, even within Honda. But then again, no you wouldn't...........you'd just laugh and say I was full of ****. Ah well. That's cool. You continue to think what you think.................I know what I know. Colin is his own worst critic and even though his own team are more than happy with his efforts this year, HE'S not. Anyway, I hope Honda give him the necessary tools next year................................. No, not you Baketech...........you're tool, but not needed. Haha

Rios929 · 09-10-2004, 2:09 AM

I don't get it. So, all things being equal, you thing that CE is a better rider then Rossi? If they were on the same exact bike, who do you think would win?

sporky · 09-10-2004, 7:43 AM

don't mess with vale...he is by far the best of the modern motogp riders
what I cannot understand is that edwards is always comlaining about the equipment he has...come on he is riding an HRC piece of art!

Baketech · 09-10-2004, 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Colin's Best Mate's Buddy - The Sook

I know one of Colins best mates (lives in Melbourne) very well, I get all the inside news etc...............you guys would fukin freak if you knew the whole story about what goes on in gp, even within Honda. But then again, no you wouldn't...........you'd just laugh and say I was full of ****. Ah well. That's cool. You continue to think what you think.................I know what I know. Colin is his own worst critic and even though his own team are more than happy with his efforts this year, HE'S not. Anyway, I hope Honda give him the necessary tools next year................................. No, not you Baketech...........you're tool, but not needed. Haha

While it's fun listening to your little version of "The Six Degrees of Colin Edwards" it makes you sound like a desperate wannabee....

This thread is for talking out of one's ass and sharing opinions...everyone has the chance to express theirs...no need for you to get wonked because you find yourself in the unique position of knowing it all....

And save the name dropping for the easily impressed kiddies at the shop, cause most of us here don't give a phuck...

tnarinen · 09-10-2004, 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sook

That's EXACTLY what he DID say after Donington. But oh yeah, that doesn't fit in with your "he's a sook" theory now does it.

Abtech , that's 3 champions out of how many? Rossi has won ALL of his so far on the BEST bike in the paddock by far, yet he's a GOD........... Bullshit.

Abtech, if you're involved in racing to the level I thought you were, you KNOW what I'm talking about. I know one of Colins best mates (lives in Melbourne) very well, I get all the inside news etc...............you guys would fukin freak if you knew the whole story about what goes on in gp, even within Honda. But then again, no you wouldn't...........you'd just laugh and say I was full of ****. Ah well. That's cool. You continue to think what you think.................I know what I know. Colin is his own worst critic and even though his own team are more than happy with his efforts this year, HE'S not. Anyway, I hope Honda give him the necessary tools next year................................. No, not you Baketech...........you're tool, but not needed. Haha

Rossi won all his titles "by far best bike"? So his Nastro Azzurro bike was "by far" better bike than the factory Repsol's were in 2001? And his first generation RCV was by far better than the one of his Japanese Repsol team-mate in 2002? Honda is known to favor arrogant Italian riders over Japanese, right? And their long-time "corporate dream" is to have Italian rider as GP world champ, right? Rossi's bike may have had best setup all the time, but that's Burgess/Rossi, not parts/bike.

And your source of this accurate "Rossi-spec super-RCV/NSR" info is group of Honda guys who got chance to test some Rossi-parts after Rossi had kicked their collective ass in 2003. What is the likehood they would have said "he got the same **** as we did all season and he still whopped our ass because he's just too fast" if they found out that was the case. So GP-riders have no egos at all?

BTW, what's the Honda excuse for this year? M1 is more adjustable and turns better at high speed? Michelin's suit M1 better? And Michelin is even using non-adjustable Honda's to test tires for super-adjustable M1? Riding styles, different engine layouts etc. do not matter all the sudden when it comes to tires?

And finally CE Fanboy early season favourite "First year on RCV, once he get's it dialed in beware...". So where was Sete after first 4-5 races of 2003 after coming from a piece-of-**** suz to a non-factory Honda?

sporky · 09-10-2004, 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tnarinen

Rossi won all his titles "by far best bike"? So his Nastro Azzurro bike was "by far" better bike than the factory Repsol's were in 2001? And his first generation RCV was by far better than the one of his Japanese Repsol team-mate in 2002? Honda is known to favor arrogant Italian riders over Japanese, right? And their long-time "corporate dream" is to have Italian rider as GP world champ, right? Rossi's bike may have had best setup all the time, but that's Burgess/Rossi, not parts/bike.

And your source of this accurate "Rossi-spec super-RCV/NSR" info is group of Honda guys who got chance to test some Rossi-parts after Rossi had kicked their collective ass in 2003. What is the likehood they would have said "he got the same **** as we did all season and he still whopped our ass because he's just too fast" if they found out that was the case. So GP-riders have no egos at all?

BTW, what's the Honda excuse for this year? M1 is more adjustable and turns better at high speed? Michelin's suit M1 better? And Michelin is even using non-adjustable Honda's to test tires for super-adjustable M1? Riding styles, different engine layouts etc. do not matter all the sudden when it comes to tires?

And finally CE Fanboy early season favourite "First year on RCV, once he get's it dialed in beware...". So where was Sete after first 4-5 races of 2003 after coming from a piece-of-**** suz to a non-factory Honda?

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Baketech · 09-10-2004, 8:09 AM

Whoaaa....don't be questioning the Sooker, after all, he's best mate with Colin's hairdresser's, cousin's, flatmate's, 2nd groomsman's, uncle's university roomate's, dry cleaner's, fish monger's, uncle's, dyno operator's, knob polisher's, dog groomer's, buddy, and gets all the STRAIGHT scoop...

In fact, maybe we should just replace these bench racing threads with a column called "Sook's Corner" so he can tell us all how it "really" works...

QuikMike · 09-10-2004, 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Whoaaa....don't be questioning the Sooker, after all, he's best mate with Colin's hairdresser's, cousin's, flatmate's, 2nd groomsman's, uncle's university roomate's, dry cleaner's, fish monger's, uncle's, dyno operator's, knob polisher's, dog groomer's, buddy, and gets all the STRAIGHT scoop...

In fact, maybe we should just replace these bench racing threads with a column called "Sook's Corner" so he can tell us all how it "really" works...

Baketech · 09-10-2004, 10:08 AM

Check out this LINK ....with some funny CE "explanations....the site is hella funny....

TGZ13 · 09-10-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Check out this LINK ....with some funny CE "explanations....the site is hella funny....

Frequenty used excuse list

ccwilli3 · 09-10-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tnarinen

Rossi won all his titles "by far best bike"? So his Nastro Azzurro bike was "by far" better bike than the factory Repsol's were in 2001? And his first generation RCV was by far better than the one of his Japanese Repsol team-mate in 2002? Honda is known to favor arrogant Italian riders over Japanese, right? And their long-time "corporate dream" is to have Italian rider as GP world champ, right? Rossi's bike may have had best setup all the time, but that's Burgess/Rossi, not parts/bike.

Not that it matters, but in 2001 Rossi WAS on the Factory team, it just had Nastro Azzurro livery... His teamate was Ukawa, on the factory repsol painted NSR.

In 2002, Ukawa was his teamate as well... I think their bikes were about equal, if not, I don't think there was much of a difference between the two. Ukawa only beat him once (at welkom) but later in the year, Barros beat him twice out of 4 races. I am lead to believe that rossi had the championship so wrapped up by that point, that he didn't try as hard...

So what does that mean? Nothing, point is, Rossi, since entering the premier class with Honda, has ALWAYS had the best equipment... Having said that, even when competitors "supposedly" had equal equipment, they couldn't beat him, or rarely did...

We are seeing Rossi ride ALL OUT, every race this year... What a great time to be a GP fan...

And this post has nothing to do with Colin flag waving or bashing!

BDA116 · 09-10-2004, 10:50 AM

So I guess the very first race of the year when all Honda riders had the same bike, same chassis, same everything else Edwards is crying about, and Biaggi, Gibernau, Barros and Hayden all kicked his ass it was just a fluke, right?
He's really better than them all, but on completely equal machinery he's still riding at the back of the pack. What was the excuse then? Oh yeah, I'm sure his bike was secretly traded out in the dark of the night for some previous spec bike, while all the others were traded out for better spec stuff. Yep, that's the inside scoop....heard it straight from some obscure Edwards reference that no one cares about so it must be true.
And yes, if Rossi jumped on Colin's bike as it sits, he would kick Colin's ass, plain and simple.

TGZ13 · 09-10-2004, 10:53 AM

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And yes, if Rossi jumped on Colin's bike as it sits, he would kick Colin's ass, plain and simple.

True that

CBRVFR · 09-10-2004, 11:14 AM

Aussie translation needed... What is a "sook"?

pushbike4 · 09-10-2004, 12:09 PM

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Rossi's bike may have had best setup all the time, but that's Burgess/Rossi, not parts/bike.

I'm with tnarinen. I think much of Rossi's success of late comes from the relationship with Burgess. All types of auto racing are team sports and these two guys have eachother figured out.

I like Colin. I like Rossi, his skills are undeniable. I want to see someone really bring the race to Rossi, I don't care who. The Edwards v Bayless shootout at the end of the superbike season was pure poetry. As a racing fan I want to see more of that. I think if racing were more like the end of that season there would be more fans and more money, following that line of thinking I cannot understand why any manufacturer would give less than the best to all of their riders.

Rios929 · 09-10-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pushbike4

I cannot understand why any manufacturer would give less than the best to all of their riders.

Good point, I was watching a Formula 1 race, and the announcer said that both teamates of every team get the exact same parts. He said it would be ridiculous for a team to give only one rider the parts when they had the means to give them to both.

Why would motogp teams only give certain people parts? Is it money or what?