Road Racing: Professional: Discussion of Professional Motorcycle Road Racing, such as MotoGP, AMA, World SuperBike, etc.
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07-25-2003, 7:50 PM
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Join Date: 05-08-2003 Location: Flyover Country
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| Re: Hey, you racers LINK
Edit: Found another one. This has got to be photo editing, right!? LINK |
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07-25-2003, 7:51 PM
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Join Date: 05-07-2003 Location: CHS, SC, USA
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| Re: Hey, you racers <---- not a racer
Yes, of course
Cool pic, BTW |
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07-25-2003, 7:51 PM
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#3 | | Just repeating what ever I hear...
Join Date: 01-28-2003 Location: Nose in a book...
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| Re: Hey, you racers Looks like a photoshop to me. |
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07-25-2003, 8:53 PM
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Join Date: 09-18-2001 Location: Columbus, OH
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| Re: Hey, you racers It *could* be real. Not sure though.
If you watched the IOM then you would have seen several people getting air while still leaned over a bit. Granted they only got about 6 inches or so off the ground but that still takes some balls to do it before you are completely upright. |
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07-25-2003, 9:06 PM
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Join Date: 05-08-2003 Location: Flyover Country
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| Re: Hey, you racers I tune in to IOM coverage every year, but heck - that's a road course the Cresent Suzuki is apparently flying over in those links. Pretty cool shots nonetheless. |
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07-25-2003, 9:46 PM
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Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
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| Re: Hey, you racers maybe he is half way through a high side?
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07-25-2003, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: 06-13-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
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| Re: Hey, you racers thats real... In a mag I have, they have some shots in there from 2000 and its walker on a zook chasing hodgson on his duc... Thats some track in GB...
Not a chop, its real! |
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07-25-2003, 10:12 PM
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Join Date: 06-30-2002 Location: Lincoln, NE
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| Re: Hey, you racers looks fake, something about the shadows.......... |
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07-25-2003, 11:05 PM
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#9 | | Just repeating what ever I hear...
Join Date: 01-28-2003 Location: Nose in a book...
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| Re: Hey, you racers Quote: |
roadrunner954 : looks fake, something about the shadows..........
| that's what I was thinking. |
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07-25-2003, 11:07 PM
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Join Date: 06-13-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
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| Re: Hey, you racers its real... Where are our EURO members?? Thats some track in GB and its very real! |
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07-25-2003, 11:38 PM
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Join Date: 07-28-2001 Location: Portland, OR
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| Re: Hey, you racers I remember seeing that as well CC. It's a famous hill at a track over there, but I can't remember the name of it for the life of me. |
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07-25-2003, 11:59 PM
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Join Date: 07-28-2001 Location: Portland, OR
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| Re: Hey, you racers Ahhhh, I just looked around a little bit and I think it's Cadwell Park. *Here's a picture of Chris Walker from the Cadwell Park round of British Superbikes wish I could find something bigger.... http://www.gotowoods.ath.cx/photos/chris_walker.jpg |
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07-26-2003, 12:26 AM
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Join Date: 05-10-2003 Location: Seattle, WA - USA
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| Re: Hey, you racers All you have to do is look at the extenion of the suspension to see that the bike is at least totally unloaded, if not airborne.
Cool picture for certain! |
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07-26-2003, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
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| Re: Hey, you racers Someone needs to find some of the pics of Fritz Kling going over the 'Hump' at Grattan counter-race. About 5 feet of air under both wheels and he's setting up for T4 midflight. There's one of him taken from the outside that looks like he's on top of the rider he's passing . . . |
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07-26-2003, 12:50 PM
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| Re: Hey, you racers
was he setting up for t4 (right hander after the off camber left) or t5 (right hander immediately following the entrance point we used for .org days; leading into the chicane and bowl)? i can see it right before t5 but not t4. i'd like to see pictures either way! |
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07-26-2003, 1:32 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
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| Re: Hey, you racers These are running Counter-Race (backwards), and since Fritz can carry over 100 mph going through T5 (backwards), he was carrying the bike in the air halfway into T4. 'Landings' on roadrace bikes are never very pretty, so he would get the bike sideways mid-air for the beginning of the corner entrance at the top of the hill . . .
you need to keep in mind that Fritz is 6'5' tall, around 220 lbs and can bench press GSXR 1000s before breakfast . . .
just remembered . . . The track redid the entire downhill section in 00' and cut down the 'Hump' quite a bit by building up both sides and changing the angle. It is much less drastic in it's present configuration (all the SCCA guys bitched about their ground effects getting beat to crap every lap, so they mellowed it out . . .). |
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07-26-2003, 7:42 PM
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| Re: Hey, you racers that guy sounds nuts! i'm sure that it is fun to watch him ride! i like to keep things a bit more mellow myself... |
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07-26-2003, 7:59 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
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| Re: Hey, you racers Fritz has been riding at Grattan for at least 15 years and is synonomous with going fast there. He was the Michigan GP champion for at least 5 years running and defined the style required to circulate the track at record pace. He won both of the WERA FUSA rounds that took place at Grattan (and worked hard for them as well!. Unfortunately, most manufacturers see 6'5' as a severe handicap and he was unable to get a real factory ride, although he did most of the early development work on the Harley Superbike and made a severe dent in the TransAtlantic BOT with Triumph a few years ago. Last season he was running a private program on a GSXR 1000 (what else is new?) and was right back in the hunt. |
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07-28-2003, 1:57 PM
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Join Date: 11-14-2001 Location: Here
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| Re: Hey, you racers I remember Fritz on the Dutchman's Yamaha. What a combination!
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07-28-2003, 3:57 PM
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Join Date: 01-26-2002 Location: Oxford UK
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| Re: Hey, you racers Just to put it into perspective here is a picture of me from a couple of years back showing those no-hopers how to do the Mountain properly. Actually I'm being slightly unkind to myself. On some of my better laps I got the front wheel way, way up high, oh at least six inches off the deck .............well maybe. http://thamecinema.users.btopenworld...ade/mount1.JPG |
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07-28-2003, 4:10 PM
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Join Date: 01-26-2002 Location: Oxford UK
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| Re: Hey, you racers Picture of Shakey on the Harris SP1 from acouple of years back. Most certainly not faked. By the way plenty of amateur trackday heroes bin their bikes over the Mountain. It's short and pretty steep. Too much gas and the bike flips very easily thus the pros laying on the front trying to keep it down. One terrible sequence of photos on display in the paddock of some poor guy flipping his TL1000S. First shot he's off the bike, legs dangling behind, then it's the superman style, then it's all over as the bike is up side down. Been done plenty of times.
PS about my pitiful effort, be knid it was my third trackday and I was nervous (frightened actually!! ) http://thamecinema.users.btopenworld...de/shakey1.JPG |
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07-28-2003, 5:56 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
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| Re: Hey, you racers That's the way I do the 'hump' when running backwards: entire body over the front tire. Air just isn't my thing on a liter bike (or the 250s either . . .). |
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07-28-2003, 6:19 PM
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Join Date: 07-06-2003 Location: Jacksonville, Fl.
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| Re: Hey, you racers If anyone watched the 600 race this weekend, Jamie Hacking was airborne at Mid-Ohio. |
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07-29-2003, 4:15 AM
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Join Date: 12-10-2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Re: Hey, you racers Thay are awesum pics |
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07-29-2003, 6:40 AM
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Join Date: 06-30-2001 Location: Arizona
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| Re: Hey, you racers D@mn I miss Cadwell Park Definitely one of the most fun tracks I have ever ridden. I'll never forget watching Simon Crafer ride the RC30 over the mountain section ... trust me those pics are legit |
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