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Old 04-11-2005, 1:55 PM
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Re: First round of MotoGP *SPOILER*

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Does anyone else think that was a boaring race exept for the last couple of laps? Can't wait till next week!
I think Sete and Rossi have proven they are heads and tails above everyone else and I think most of the races will be to see who can finish 3rd. Rossi and Sete usually have some entertaining duals but often Rossi seems to just follow Sete around until there are a handful of laps left then he takes the lead which is where it gets interesting... unless it's a race where Rossi sets off from the pole and just leaves everyone behind... then it's really boring. I suppose if Rossi started on the last row of the grid in every race he would still finish the season top 5 in points.

I'm not quite ready to give up on Nicky yet. He was lapping some record laps before he fell off the pace.
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Sete tried to close the door a bit, but he was late.

Rossi taking him into the dirt was the part that I thought was real bad too.

Reminded me of a NASCAR race...
Exactly.....IMO that's the part that I have a problem with...AFTER the contact when Rossi kept letting it drift out pushing him into the kitty litter. He had 1st either way...didn't have to do that.
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Correct, but Hayden and Jerez just don't jive. I think he's hit the deck every trip there.
The first one was engine siezure....and if you recall, he actually led a few laps of that race...

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Re: First round of MotoGP *SPOILER*

Sorry, but I lost a lot of respect for Rossi after that race. Sete has a right to his line. Rossi came in too hot on the inside, RAN INTO Sete, ran him off the track, and wheelies to the finish line like nothing happened. That's BULLS#IT!
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Exactly.....IMO that's the part that I have a problem with...AFTER the contact when Rossi kept letting it drift out pushing him into the kitty litter. He had 1st either way...didn't have to do that.
Rossi didn't intentionally push him out. When Sete ran into him, Rossi stood his bike up to fend off the impending crash, and that is what caused him to run wide.
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Rossi ... RAN INTO Sete
You need to watch it again, closely. You have it backwards.
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Re: First round of MotoGP *SPOILER*

Have you all voted on the Poll over at Superbikeplanet?

Do it!Do It!


* on a side note, it's great to see all this bickering and arguing again over real races instead of practice and speculation. Racing is back in season for sure. I love you guys

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Rossi didn't intentionally push him out. When Sete ran into him, Rossi stood his bike up to fend off the impending crash, and that is what caused him to run wide.


Rossi stood it up and waited to turn until he was in the dirt...as soon as Sete was off, Rossi flicked it back in.
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Rossi stood it up and waited to turn until he was in the dirt...as soon as Sete was off, Rossi flicked it back in.
You are not the fish I was trying to hook. Back into the water you go!
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Rossi didn't intentionally push him out. When Sete ran into him, Rossi stood his bike up to fend off the impending crash, and that is what caused him to run wide.


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...* on a side note, it's great to see all this bickering and arguing again over real races instead of practice and speculation. Racing is back in season for sure. I love you guys

Yeah, yeah, yeah, what he said. At least we can complain about the real thing now and not test or practice sessions that had certain riders atop the field. Since we all have our own opinion......Rossi should be banned from racing FOREVER .....that way some others can enjoy victory.
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DAMN, at least file off the barb next time would ya?
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If you look at the tape, it clearly shows Rossi entering along the same line Hayden was using in that corner...so it it's possible he just could not achieve maximum braking while slipping on the tears and just drove it in too deep....
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If you look at the tape, it clearly shows Rossi entering along the same line Hayden was using in that corner...so it it's possible he just could not achieve maximum braking while slipping on the tears and just drove it in too deep....
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Did you and I even watch the same race Rossi adjusted his foot several times the exact same way on that corner several times through the race.Not to mention both are world class(best) racers and are able to adjust their lines to suit passing and collision avoidence. I think just about everyone here have way to much brand loyalty. That was an awsome race. For 2 riders to be side by side in the last corner and to bump, one has to be an ass and the other is the hero. Give me a friggin break. They were racing. Gibby's The sportsman he always has been and Rossi is no different. Pushing %110 don't make you a cheater. I say congrats to both for making one hellava race for me to watch. If you don't like this stile of racing maybe some of you guys should watch drag racing instead.
Finally something that makes sense---watch the "pass" a few times---G---aint a victim of anyone but himself---"my shoulder hurtz"
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Finally something that makes sense---watch the "pass" a few times---G---aint a victim of anyone but himself---"my shoulder hurtz"
What's the matter, too familiar?
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I think I can speak for most of the racers on the board and yeah, that stuff happens but I'd still be tracking the fu##er down in the pits afterwards. It was Sete's corner and Rossi shouldn't have tried stuffing it in there. Has nothing to do with what brands of motorcycles they were on. Close racing is one thing; what happened in that last corner was another.
Ummm heres a bonafied racer that would NOT agree with you. The best racers on this board are "barely top ten" in their respective AMATURE classes--these guys are racing for millions, if you think your "run-of-the-mill" club racer wouldnt do this w/millions at stake you are sadly mistaken. Its funny how everyone thinks that the outcome was so "predictable". Sure its easy "after the fact" saying that Rossi did it intentionally--what if he went down.

I think the "predicatbility" evrybody is really pissed about is that Rossi could have passed G whenever he wanted to, apparently maybe even two or three times, he intentionally hangs back to pass G at his whim--pretty funny how jacked all the Honda dudes get.

I like Nicky, but frnakly I am tired of watching him CHOKE in 3rd place.

It was a "race" NO rules were broken, and it is HIGHLY debatable who ran into who--

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