Honda in SBK

colryn · 09-12-2005, 7:45 AM

Please explain this to me.

Why is it that Chris V., riding a TenKate Honda, is right up front with Corser and the Suzuki's? But in AMA, the Honda sled is always pulling up the rear. Those bikes can't buy an AMA win. I guess AMA rules are different than WSB.

What gives....

MACI4LIFE · 09-12-2005, 7:49 AM

past threads seem to point to the growing pains of Honda america taking over the reins.

phobiaphobe · 09-12-2005, 9:59 AM

As I understood it, the American teams are no longer backed by HRC in Japan.

nedro · 09-12-2005, 10:26 AM

In the AMA, the manufacturers get together to chose which series they will put their money into. That way everybody gets a chance to advertise that they are #1. The AMA has nothing to do with competition. Do they race? Yes. Do they compete? No.

luvtolean · 09-12-2005, 10:26 AM

Spamming deleted.

CBR929RE · 09-12-2005, 11:55 AM

well the rules are different and TenKate simply builds a much better bike than American Honda. The AMA honda team either needs to get HRC back or get someone from TenKate to come over and show them how its done. I think the biggest problem the AMA honda team has is the Yoshi Suzuki team. From development to mechanics to rider Yoshi just has a better team and it really makes Honda look bad.

02FBlade · 09-12-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

well the rules are different and TenKate simply builds a much better bike than American Honda.

Yeah, They'll build YOU one for like 40k.

What about FX? Hondas winning those...but no Maldin to compete with!

CBR929RE · 09-12-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 02FBlade

Yeah, They'll build YOU one for like 40k.

What about FX? Hondas winning those...but no Maldin to compete with!

I'd love a Ten Kate bike. You can also get a Kagayama Express GSXR1000, $80k fully decked out.

Well when Honda is the only factory team in FX its easy to win when you can drop a few thousand bucks without a problem unlike the privateers.

02FBlade · 09-12-2005, 12:47 PM

Wish AMA would force one permire class...make them really earn there #1s. Almost worse then politics!!!!!

nedro · 09-12-2005, 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 02FBlade

Yeah, They'll build YOU one for like 40k.

What about FX? Hondas winning those...but no Maldin to compete with!

See post #4 in this thread. And it has very little to do with Mladen.

colryn · 09-12-2005, 1:35 PM

So why would mother Honda not want to sponser both AMA and WSB to promot their products. Yes, it would mean opening up thier wallet for developement. Spending money on performance parts. But it would also mean sales of their bike fleet. Am I not correct? It seems that I see more and more Suzukis on the street. I cannot help but wonder if this is because Suks are competing big time in racing, both AMA and WSB. How can Honda expect to sell more bikes if they are getting dogged week in and week out in racing?

I feel confident in Honda fit and polish. This 03 954 is a great bike. Other Honda bikes that I have owned or just ridden, were great as well. I can't say the same for the other makers that I have been on.

I just don't understand Honda and their logic.

Tornado bait · 09-12-2005, 1:41 PM

It's clear to see where the Honda team's focus is when Zemke drops out of a race to save himself for FX.

BDA116 · 09-12-2005, 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Last year HRC was in control and they still weren't winning.

Last year the CBR1000RR won more AMA Superbike races than any other bike. Problem was that they were taking points away from each other. But yeah, Honda won last year, more than Suzuki.

luvtolean · 09-12-2005, 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Last year the CBR1000RR won more AMA Superbike races than any other bike. Problem was that they were taking points away from each other. But yeah, Honda won last year, more than Suzuki.

I'll go fix my post as you are correct. Suzuki won 8 races and a championship with one rider, Honda won 9 among 3 riders.

http://home.ama-cycle.org/prorace/ra...6280&year=2004