Rossi Calls Alonso's Bluff

CBR929RE · 03-16-2006, 7:31 PM

says Rossi has even competed in it

the ROC car has a Blackbird motor in it

southpark460 · 03-16-2006, 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Wrong on both. Those aren't the only series out there.
http://www.raceofchampions.com/
Hasn't happened for '06 yet.

I just browsed through the Year by Year history and the only NASCAR driver (or US driver, for that matter) that won was the 2002 Canary Islands Nations' Cup. Didn't even place in the top three...

BDA116 · 03-16-2006, 7:53 PM

Really? The 2002 ROC championship team wasn't from the U.S., and it didn't include Jeff Gordon? And he didn't drive for the U.S. team in '05?
Jimmie Johnson and Casey Mears aren't NASCAR drivers? And one or both weren't on the U.S. team in '02, '03 or '04? Robby Gordon isn't a NASCAR driver and hasn't been on the U.S. team ever?
Search again.

southpark460 · 03-16-2006, 7:55 PM

I'm confused by the results... Never mind.

BDA116 · 03-16-2006, 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

says Rossi has even competed in it

the ROC car has a Blackbird motor in it

Yes, Rossi was on the Italian team in '01. Yes, the buggy-style ROC has a Blackbird engine.
There typically is a motorcycle rider on each team. Colin was on the U.S. team in '02 when we won. Pastrana was last year.

It really used to be very exciting to watch. They had some killer courses laid out. A couple years ago they moved it into some arena in frenchyland. Now it isn't anywhere near as fun to watch. Schumi drove in it a couple years ago - I think the first year they moved it to that crappy track - and one of the challenge cars was a Ferrari 360. He spun it a couple times on the tiny little course. If I remember right they were only using three gears.
It was way better outside with separate road and dirt courses.

CBR929RE · 03-16-2006, 8:03 PM

sure all those Nascar guys competed but they didn't really win anything except that 1 time.

And Pastrana is kind of an all star anyway since he runs a lot of WRC. And he's pretty damn good at it.

Scout · 03-16-2006, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuss929

Would be interesting to see what is being written on this topic on some F1 forums.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=132953

abtech · 03-16-2006, 9:38 PM

Someone has a "convenient" memory:

"Regardless, one can never tell. I recall Mario Andretti getting a chance to ride a 500 GP bike at Laguna in one of his final years of racing... no leathers, just his firesuit and a helmet. He would've qualified in the top half of the field for the race. And he was 50+ years old at the time. (I've got the book around here somewhere with the pic in it...) So just because Schumi was slow on Ducati doesn't mean that holds true of everyone."

Just about every member on Fireblades.org that has turned a wheel at Laguna has lapped 10 seconds faster than Mario's best time (in full leathers due to the FIM rules). He was over a minute 30 plus slower than the last row of that particular event.

These clowns crack me up . . . Mario came in and said he was glad he never tried motorcycle racing because he would need to change his pants every lap . . .

nhfirefighter13 · 03-16-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

it pains you because thats probably not true. Think of how many wrecks their are in nascar whent hey do a road course. The few guys who actually brake before the turn (like you're suppose to) end up causing the idiots who brake all the way past the apex to crash. None of those 3 would post times anywhere better than say midpack in F1.

While I hate to admit it (simply because NASCAR drives me insane) those drivers are actually very talented behind the wheel. To think otherwise is foolish.

clutchslip · 03-16-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Wrong on both. Those aren't the only series out there.
http://www.raceofchampions.com/
Hasn't happened for '06 yet.

Oh yeah, I haven't seen that in awhile.
Gee, Gordon and USA won ONCE in 2002. Okay, well there Ya go, NASCAR rules the world. And Gordon was fast before he ever entered NASCAR.

MetallicCarrot · 03-16-2006, 10:23 PM

+1 for Rossi DESTROYING Alonso.

It wouldn't even be close.

also, +1 for giving Alonso props for beating the last place GP finisher.

BDA116 · 03-16-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clutchslip

Oh yeah, I haven't seen that in awhile.
Gee, Gordon and USA won ONCE in 2002. Okay, well there Ya go, NASCAR rules the world. And Gordon was fast before he ever entered NASCAR.

Nobody ever said NASCAR drivers were the best, genius. What was stated is that they are far better car drivers than Rossi. That is a fact, deal with it.
I'm not a NASCAR fan by any stretch, but the guys have proven over and over that they can drive with the best at those events. Rossi never has.
Rossi is the premier motorcycle racer, but isn't jack in the world of car racing. Alonso isn't the premier car racer, and wouldn't do jack in the world of motorcycle racing.

BDA116 · 03-16-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by abtech

Someone has a "convenient" memory:

"Regardless, one can never tell. I recall Mario Andretti getting a chance to ride a 500 GP bike at Laguna in one of his final years of racing... no leathers, just his firesuit and a helmet. He would've qualified in the top half of the field for the race. And he was 50+ years old at the time. (I've got the book around here somewhere with the pic in it...) So just because Schumi was slow on Ducati doesn't mean that holds true of everyone."

Just about every member on Fireblades.org that has turned a wheel at Laguna has lapped 10 seconds faster than Mario's best time (in full leathers due to the FIM rules). He was over a minute 30 plus slower than the last row of that particular event.

These clowns crack me up . . . Mario came in and said he was glad he never tried motorcycle racing because he would need to change his pants every lap . . .

The other part of that convenient memory is that Schumi was out there for fun and a publicity stunt for a few laps on the Ducati. He never tried for any fast laps or to make any point, and he was still within ~25% of Rossi's race times.

Zippy · 03-17-2006, 10:47 AM

Within 25%? So he'd be lapped in just four laps.

Custom900 · 03-17-2006, 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

Within 25%? So he'd be lapped in just four laps.

BDA116 · 03-17-2006, 3:29 PM

Yes, within 25% just fukkin' around. Never ridden a MotoGP bike, just hopped on and pissed around.

Had he actually tried and been doing it with an option of a possible career shift he could have sliced that percentage in half within a day or two. Similar to the percentage Rossi is off his F1 times.
Rossi a race car driver -

MetallicCarrot · 03-18-2006, 9:22 PM

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Rossi a race car driver -

Yes but there are people who DO get paid to ride motorcycles for a living that their only hope for beating Rossi is for him to crash.

Each round there are maybe 2 riders that can hang with him, and it's a different 2 riders depending on the tracks.

Nicky got him in the US, but we all know Rossi is a learn one year / win on 2nd year kinda guy. The USGP should be quite interesting this year.

I'm not as big a fan of Rossi as I was when he rode a Honda, and I would love to see Nicky do well, for that matter I'm really rooting for KRJR on the Honda-powered Roberts team. But I have to admit that he is the best at what he does, moreso than anyone in any other sport. I can't think of anyone who has achieved his level of domination. And he switched manufacturers to remove all doubt about his talent.

RRWANTR · 03-18-2006, 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Rossi a race car driver -

Seems his rally results have been pretty dang good the last bit...beating the top guys..

Custom900 · 03-18-2006, 9:30 PM

Nicky's da man