Hayden going to Ducati next season?

nedro · 08-07-2006, 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beefus1000

Hodgson is getting his as whupped because he's on in inferior 999 to the factory effort of Bayliss & Co. I hope Spies moved up to WSB or even MGP so we can see how good he really is....we all know Mladin won't....Big fish...small pond....Shame becuase he'd be up there for sure.

But for the most part we are comparing BSB with AMA. He threw in the WSB just because of Hodgson.

luvtolean · 08-07-2006, 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nedro

But for the most part we are comparing BSB with AMA. He threw in the WSB just because of Hodgson.

Hodgson won the BSB championship in 2000.

beefus1000 · 08-07-2006, 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nedro

But for the most part we are comparing BSB with AMA. He threw in the WSB just because of Hodgson.

Well I suppose we can argue all day about what series is best.....I'll go with WSB over AMA though....for the riders, the circuits, the crowds, the atmosphere.....Admittedly I've only seen AMA on TV but a lot of the circuits look half empty??

beefus1000 · 08-07-2006, 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Yep....Rossi trashing tires, engines...failures aren't always the fault of the mechanics or designers.

That bike is simply not up to par.

If Burgess and Rossi get to share the accolades of turning the previous M1 into a championship bike, like they did a year ago, they get to share the current accolades of failure.

Agree, the bike is a dog this year....DNF at Le Mans when he was p*ssing it...DNF in China and the US. He's having all his bad luck in one season. I think Hayden will win the title and good luck to him, Mr.Consistent. But next season is a whole new ball game. I want to see some more young talent move up from the 250's....Lorenzo, Dovizioso, De Angelis....going at it with Stoner, Pedrosa, Melandri, Rossi......I'm salivating at the thought!!

Baketech · 08-07-2006, 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I still think he pulled a Cole Trickle at Laguna. Got fed up and smoked it.
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Bazillion.....

Heavy-Dee · 08-07-2006, 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Bazillion.....

No way.

Baketech · 08-07-2006, 5:46 PM

Way...

QuikMike · 08-07-2006, 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

The top five AMA riders can ride with the top five WSBK riders any day. The BSB guys might hang with the AMA Superstock guys.
Who's that ex-WSBK champ getting his ass kicked at each and every event in the AMA? Number 100? Who is that forgettable guy that can't hang again?
Oh yeah, Hodgson.

Good one, BDA.....ROTLMAO

QuikMike · 08-07-2006, 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ccwilli3

That's another topic for another thread that could go on forever...

Aren't the 999s in WSBK and AMA are completely "different" bikes?...The Ducs in WSBK are supported by the factory outta Bologna, Italy whereas the Ducs in AMA are supported by the Parts Unlimited team out of Atlanta? that's a big difference, IMO...also, Bayliss is heads and shoulders above anyone in the WSBK series except for maybe Haga...it's going to be fun next year to see him battle Colin and Hodgson...

*BIGSAPOTEER* · 08-07-2006, 7:22 PM

with hte new 800cc next year, who is going to have the advantage? small riders (pedrosa, stoner, current 250cc riders), or bigger physical riders? rossi has been consistant and strong throughout a race because of his size, but with a smaller, lighter bike will the scale tip to the lighter riders?

luvtolean · 08-07-2006, 7:28 PM

Big riders won races on 750CC sportbikes. Big riders won on 500CC smokers.

I don't think "the mites" are going to have a big advantage like some are saying.

But I do think Pedrosa is going to be right there (which will have all the mighty miters out saying it's cuz he's little)....

*BIGSAPOTEER* · 08-07-2006, 7:32 PM

well in spite of all the people not being pro-pedrosa, i beleive he should be a favorite next year. not only because he is small= faster speed, but also because he knows the tracks.

onevcs · 08-07-2006, 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGSAPOTEER

with hte new 800cc next year, who is going to have the advantage? small riders (pedrosa, stoner, current 250cc riders), or bigger physical riders? rossi has been consistant and strong throughout a race because of his size, but with a smaller, lighter bike will the scale tip to the lighter riders?

IMO when the bikes get lighter, the smaller guys shorten the gap they felt when bikes where heavier, but I don't think that it'll be a decisive factor.
To me it's comparable to an artist painting with oil paints or water based paints. If he's a good artist the picture should still be a nice one.
Sorry if it sounded

with the painter thing but I thought it was a good comparison.

*BIGSAPOTEER* · 08-07-2006, 7:38 PM

as long as you dont use mascara, lip stick or eye liners as a comparison u r ok.

CBR929RE · 08-07-2006, 8:07 PM

so the mites have the advantage in speed. do the bigger guys have an advantage getting the bike turned because they can muscle it around easier?

Baketech · 08-07-2006, 9:41 PM

It will all boil down to tire management...

Mites will rule in 07...

ccwilli3 · 08-07-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

It will all boil down to tire management...

That's just a switch on the handle bars nowadays... Question is; Who has the best software at the end of the switch?

ccwilli3 · 08-07-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikMike

Aren't the 999s in WSBK and AMA are completely "different" bikes?...The Ducs in WSBK are supported by the factory outta Bologna, Italy whereas the Ducs in AMA are supported by the Parts Unlimited team out of Atlanta? that's a big difference, IMO...also, Bayliss is heads and shoulders above anyone in the WSBK series except for maybe Haga...it's going to be fun next year to see him battle Colin and Hodgson...

God, can you be anymore ghey?

klrb929 · 08-08-2006, 1:40 AM

WSB has it's prodigal son back and it going to take colin goin gback to snatch the title from bayliss

troy B and that bike were made for one another ...like foggy before him

as for rossi blowing his engine in fustration

no freakin way... i was there ... he was pushing to snatch a podium...

this season his technique of laying low letting others get out ahead of him and burning up thier tires (while keeping his fresh) is'nt working...he's blown the bike pushing it too hard

the M1 probably peaked in development at the end of last year....the rcv still has a ways togo IMO

also there are some inherent problems with an inline 4 that are not present in a multi cylinder V

wont get into it.....other I am pissed that honda wont give me a V4-5 superbike

rossi is the best rider (barely) burgess is the best tuner (by far) but the M1 has reached its max

meanwhile guys like hayden, pedrosa,and milandri are almost as good as rossi....they have beaten him in a striaght fight....but rossi wins more than he loses

but the key is the rcv is better....and nickys "unexciting" 2nd and 3rd are going to deliver him the plate ....if and a big if someone doesnt take it from him

but him leaving honda....nope dont think so ...not yet... not for a while...not till he finishes less than 4th in the championship...look how long honda kept max biaggi around

and when he does i hope he comes back here for one year to kick miladin right in the balls

Scout · 08-08-2006, 1:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ccwilli3

That's just a switch on the handle bars nowadays... Question is; Who has the best software at the end of the switch?

Even the current tire technology and compounds have beaten the "tires going off" during the MotoGP races - of course with the traction control....

Baketech · 08-08-2006, 8:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ccwilli3

That's just a switch on the handle bars nowadays... Question is; Who has the best software at the end of the switch?

I haven't seen that switch that overcomes the physics of rider weight yet...

Scout · 08-08-2006, 9:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

I haven't seen that switch that overcomes the physics of rider weight yet...

And this is true also. In a recent interview, Spies credits his rider weight on a 3-4 mph lead per lap over Mladin...

Heavy-Dee · 08-08-2006, 10:06 AM

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