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Phillip Island results *Spoiler*
09-21-2006, 3:17 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe Not Rossi's fault the rules weren't enforced. | Nope, but it sure shows a lot about his character. |
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09-21-2006, 3:27 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by ND4SPD Nope, but it sure shows a lot about his character. | Yes, it shows that he'll do anything he can get away with, to win. Probably explains a lot about why he's won 5 championships in a row while so many talented people finish behind him.
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09-21-2006, 3:37 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by Duster929 Yes, it shows that he'll do anything he can get away with, to win. Probably explains a lot about why he's won 5 championships in a row while so many talented people finish behind him.
--- D | Yeah, no kidding. If it weren't for Rossi, Hopkins would have won a few titles by now.
Or maybe at least a few top fives.
Speaking of the most deserving of MotoGP rides on the planet, does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture in his "moto babes" gallery? Official Website of MotoGP #21 John Hopkins |
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09-21-2006, 3:46 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 Yeah, no kidding. If it weren't for Rossi, Hopkins would have won a few titles by now.
Or maybe at least a few top fives.
Speaking of the most deserving of MotoGP rides on the planet, does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture in his "moto babes" gallery? Official Website of MotoGP #21 John Hopkins | Now I'll understand what he really means if I ever hear him complain about having trouble with his tranny.
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09-21-2006, 4:11 PM
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#245 | | Listen Johnny...
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 Yeah, no kidding. If it weren't for Rossi, Hopkins would have won a few titles by now.
Or maybe at least a few top fives. | You're fogetting Edwards. No-one deserves it more than him and without Rossi on the A bike, CEII would easily be at least in 6th place.
I think at the end of the season, they ought to take the best of who's left (Outside the top three) and make them race in a 10 lap no-holds barred, last man standing, race. The top three from that race get contract renewals or first crack at the open spots on the remaining team rosters. |
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09-21-2006, 4:33 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash You're fogetting Edwards. No-one deserves it more than him and without Rossi on the A bike, CEII would easily be at least in 6th place.
I think at the end of the season, they ought to take the best of who's left (Outside the top three) and make them race in a 10 lap no-holds barred, last man standing, race. The top three from that race get contract renewals or first crack at the open spots on the remaining team rosters. |
That smells of NASCAR thinking....... and of today's "it's okay if you didn't win" mentality, which has no place in the premier motorcycle world championship. The rider with the most points at the end of the season, is the winner, everyone else needs to figure out how to be number one at the end of next season. |
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09-21-2006, 4:48 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 |  You would almost think that was in Thailand |
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09-21-2006, 4:49 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* I will never say a chic has the full package again either |
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09-21-2006, 5:09 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by Latebraking That smells of NASCAR thinking....... and of today's "it's okay if you didn't win" mentality, which has no place in the premier motorcycle world championship. The rider with the most points at the end of the season, is the winner, everyone else needs to figure out how to be number one at the end of next season. |
I got one!! I got one!! Should I keep it?  |
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09-21-2006, 6:50 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by Duster929 Yes, it shows that he'll do anything he can get away with, to win. Probably explains a lot about why he's won 5 championships in a row while so many talented people finish behind him.
--- D |  Yeah, all those wins, he cheated to get them all 
Someone just jumped off a high board someplace.  |
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09-21-2006, 6:58 PM
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#251 | | The track is the place to be
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by RRWANTR Unfortunately for Hayden, Moto GP rules do not allow a rider to be punished for such an offence once the race has ended , and Rossi, a five-time champion, was let-off scot-free. | http://superbikeplanet.com/2006/Sep/060920expdele.htm
" Any Infringement of this rule during a practice session will result in the cancellation of the time of the lap during which the infraction occurred. In case of infringement of this rule during the race, the rider must go back the number of positions decided by the Race Direction. The penalty will be first communicated to the team and then a board will be displayed for the rider on the finish line during a maximum of 3 laps. If the rider did not go back after the board has been presented 3 times, he will be penalized by a ride through.
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In both cases, further penalties (such as fine - suspension) may also be imposed. If immediately after having overtaken, the rider realizes that he did an infraction, he must raise his hand and let pass the rider(s) that he has overtaken. In this case, no penalty will be imposed. -- FIM MotoGP rule book." "To people that believe this, that the above supports the 'must penalize during race' supposition, I will say this: that money you're saving for law school—go ahead and spend it. Blow it on a new sport bike or dames or a week in Vegas, because I have feeling you're going to be getting your ass thrown or blown out of court—a lot. Saying that passage means the punishment must only happen in the race is an interesting interpretation...but, say, what about the last line of that section which reads In both cases, further penalties (such as fine - suspension) may also be imposed.. the phrase "further penalties" really opens a door, doesn't it? If the sanctioning body were to fine or suspend someone over a yellow flag infringment, they might do so after the race. In fact, there's probably past examples of them doing so after a race. Hence, the statements that they can't now penalize Rossi because it's after the race are simply wrong. If they can fine him or suspend him after the race, then they can easily bounce him back a few positions under the further penalties portion of the rule book, presumably even today. How much time would a ride through penalty at Phillip Island take? Anybody? A minute? Half a minute?" |
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09-21-2006, 7:02 PM
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#252 | | The track is the place to be
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by RRWANTR I can't say anything about the standing yellow as I couldn't tell on the telecast, but I have to disagree that Stoner's bike didn't get in front of Rossi's momentarily. It did. | Soup :: Expletive Deleted--Rossi's Rules, a column by Dean Adams, Sept 2006
"I have yet to see any footage of Rossi raising his hand and allowing Stoner past him to redeem his illegal pass. From the footage supplied to me by Speed (the same footage shown to everyone in the US by Speed) Rossi never raised either hand, and Stoner, who was racing mind you, tried to re-pass Rossi at one point, and brought his Honda astride Rossi's Yamaha, but he never made the gap, or any gap back that he had before the pass until later in the race."
Put a wheel back in front or coming along side is not the same as letting the passed rider to completely retake back his position and than continuing to race. You must also raise your hand too. |
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09-22-2006, 11:15 AM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* Quote:
Originally Posted by deez  Yeah, all those wins, he cheated to get them all 
Someone just jumped off a high board someplace.  | No, you misinterpreted me. I never said he cheated to win his championships. Believe me, I'm a fan of Valentino. What I meant is that he has the real killer instinct that a champion needs, and that he'll do whatever it takes to win, taking himself, the bike, and even the rules, to the limit. Nice guys really don't finish first, regardless of what your mom might have told you.
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09-22-2006, 11:18 PM
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| Re: Phillip Island results *Spoiler* what utter sht half of you are speaking
'shows rossi's character'
you actually think he deliberately overtook when seeing the yellow flag was out. that is absolutely retarded if he did do that deliberately. whether or not the authorities should have penalised him should be up for discussion but to try and say rossi did it on purpose and that it shows his character is rediculous.
and to say other riders should have won the championship in previous years is absolutely retarded. rossi won the most races and placed the best every year and therefore is considered the best rider. its like tall poppy syndrome everyone just wants to cut down the best.
im sure if rossi was on the repsol still and destroying hayden on a yamaha you would all be singing a different tune |
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