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Proto · 09-24-2006, 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

How many points would Rossi have on the Suzuki or Kawasaki?

With the same development time he's had with the Yamaha, and with Jerry Burgess on the team, probably as many as he's got now.

BDA116 · 09-24-2006, 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

None of the above. There are 3 or 4 riders that are better than him who are now healthy and aren't DNFing.

CBRVFR · 09-24-2006, 7:07 PM

Whatever the issue is with his bike they better pull all the stops out and optimize it for the last two races, and he'll have to ride as if he has nothing to lose.

ElectricMotorcy · 09-24-2006, 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Stoner is the new Xaus.

Wife tells me Stoner is cuter.

QuikMike · 09-24-2006, 8:12 PM

is there "choking away the title" emoticon?

KF810 · 09-25-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

Whatever the issue is with his bike they better pull all the stops out and optimize it for the last two races, and he'll have to ride as if he has nothing to lose.

I think yer right..

Crash · 09-25-2006, 1:20 AM

Well it was nothing short of a disappointing and boring race.

It's hard to watch Nicky just go backwards. Since Laguna last year he has been the most consistant rider out there. Since the summer break he's been struggling and I'm not gonna jump into the frey as to what HRC is doing.

It's been said, Hayden isn't the best on the Honda and now those riders are finishing. Last year the title was Rossi, Melandri, and Hayden. This year it's looking like it'll be Rossi, Hayden, and Melandri. Sucks.... He can win it, but I fear he's been going the wrong way for too long.

I agree too, that if Loris hadn't been injured the season would be even more exciting.

RRWANTR · 09-25-2006, 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

If HRC would let Nicky run the bike that he was able to run so well and consistently at the beginning of the season, he could have put the title away already.
Why they are forcing Nicky to run crap parts that are continuing to hurt him is beyond me.
This could have been the year that Nicky took the title due to consistent fast riding, but instead it will be the year that he lost it due to testing worthless parts.
Why did KRJR let Edwards by there at the end? I hope that loser ends up last in the last two races.

What a farking joke. Talk about having your head up someones a$$. Talk about whining and bitching.

Every #1 Honda rider out there has had to develop parts during the season. In fact, you all were bitching about Rossi getting the "good" parts first and others having to wait, when in reality he was TESTING parts, chassis etc both good and bad. Now when Hayden has to do HIS JOB, ya'll bitch because he gets the new parts first, but now magically they all suck. What a bunch of shyte that is.

Who knows where Hayden would be on the bike from the beginning of the year with no new parts. My guess is the old bike with no new development parts wouldn't have him any further up in the standings, but hey, he's getting screwed so bad that he decided to resign with HRC for two years instead of going elsewhere. Guess he just must like taking it up the a$$.

RRWANTR · 09-25-2006, 1:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

No, he's not even on the best Honda.
And he would be doing just as well on the Yamaha or Ducati.
How many points would Rossi have on the Suzuki or Kawasaki?

If Hayden were allowed to race the better version of the Honda - the one he has shown to be faster on, the same one run by Pedrosa and Melandri, he would have the title put away by now.

ROFLMMFAO You are such a tool. This has to be a big farking chartreuse crankbait.

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Careful dude, you're starting to sound like an Edwards fan.

Actually, worse, a Biaggi fan.

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

None of the above. There are 3 or 4 riders that are better than him who are now healthy and aren't DNFing.

+1000

clutchslip · 09-25-2006, 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bwhip

...and it would have been nice to see what Loris could have done had he not gotten injured.

I'm still pissed about this! The season was really going to be Capirossi with Rossi trying to keep his title. They both were taken out through no fault of their own and the season has gone a whole other way.

I saw the same thing in this race as the first race of the season. Loris and the Duc are something special.

phobiaphobe · 09-25-2006, 2:31 AM

He's probably losing ground because Michelin gives the good tires to Pedrosa.

sporky · 09-25-2006, 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RRWANTR

What a farking joke. Talk about having your head up someones a$$. Talk about whining and bitching.

Every #1 Honda rider out there has had to develop parts during the season. In fact, you all were bitching about Rossi getting the "good" parts first and others having to wait, when in reality he was TESTING parts, chassis etc both good and bad. Now when Hayden has to do HIS JOB, ya'll bitch because he gets the new parts first, but now magically they all suck. What a bunch of shyte that is.

Who knows where Hayden would be on the bike from the beginning of the year with no new parts. My guess is the old bike with no new development parts wouldn't have him any further up in the standings, but hey, he's getting screwed so bad that he decided to resign with HRC for two years instead of going elsewhere. Guess he just must like taking it up the a$$.

AMEN! could not state it better
Hayden is a great rider and very steady indeed, no argument about that, personaly I admire his style and determination - but there is a bunch of guys out there that are really fast and have the "champ attitude". Too bad for the sport that Rossi probably he is gonna win another title turning this thing in one man show. Capirossi could have been a serious contender if he didnt have that accident in Spain as well as Pedrosa who most probably will fight hard for the 07 championship.
Moreover Hayden had the best bike in the grid, Honda gave him from the beginning the best stuff around the docs. Too bad for us (meaning Honda lovers) the nurse will be a champ again

s.

clutchslip · 09-25-2006, 2:38 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

He's probably losing ground because Michelin gives the good tires to Pedrosa.

Close - He had the experimental valve stems. He got screwed again testing new unproven techno. Poor bastard.

CBRGuy · 09-25-2006, 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RRWANTR

Every #1 Honda rider out there has had to develop parts during the season. In fact, you all were bitching about Rossi getting the "good" parts first and others having to wait, when in reality he was TESTING parts, chassis etc both good and bad. Now when Hayden has to do HIS JOB, ya'll bitch because he gets the new parts first, but now magically they all suck.

The HUGE difference is that Hayden is testing parts for the 800cc bike, parts that were not ever designed to work on the bike he is currently riding. How well do you think those parts were designed by HRC to work on the 990cc bike?

Rossi also tested bad parts, yes. Hayden is forced to run the race on those bad parts.

phobiaphobe · 09-25-2006, 9:40 AM

Really? Which parts?

I heard Rossi had to test RCV valvesprings in his NSR... Thing barely ran. Curse you, HRC.

Baketech · 09-25-2006, 9:48 AM

Someone needs to check BDA's kreel...

CBRGuy · 09-25-2006, 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Really? Which parts?

I heard Rossi had to test RCV valvesprings in his NSR... Thing barely ran. Curse you, HRC.

He had a brand new frame and swingarm just a couple races ago for one.

Here is a quote about his clutch issues:

"Championship leader Hayden was really hacked off on Sunday evening. He'd had another Jerez again, in that he was beaten by his team-mate from nowhere.

"Just how can we get beaten by a guy in a wheelchair with only one leg?" asked someone. "And why are we at round 13 and still testing parts and munching through clutches even during a 20 minute warm-up session on Sunday? It's been the same since Jerez and nothing happens to cure it. Sure there are other problems with the '800' Evo bike, but this clutch just doesn't work," they said."

I doubt they are just testing new footpegs and exhaust brackets. The parts they are testing undoubtedly have a big impact on the performance of the bike.

phobiaphobe · 09-25-2006, 9:54 AM

Who are you quoting?

CBRGuy · 09-25-2006, 10:05 AM

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Who are you quoting?

I just copied that from another message board. Not sure what website it came from but there are tons of sites out there related to MotoGP stuff. I've seen a lot of quotes come from European websites that you won't see on the big US websites.

BDA116 · 09-25-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Someone needs to check BDA's kreel...

What? Me fishing for easy suckers?
No way. Watching those haters wiggle around on the hook making fools of themselves isn't any fun is it?

Baketech · 09-25-2006, 10:27 AM

Yeah, but after you gaff em, who has to clean up the blood on the deck...

Baketech · 09-25-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRGuy

I just copied that from another message board. Not sure what website it came from but there are tons of sites out there related to MotoGP stuff. I've seen a lot of quotes come from European websites that you won't see on the big US websites.

It's good practice to attribute a source when using quotes...

BDA116 · 09-25-2006, 10:38 AM

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