Hayden to go to Ducati?

ptlcb1 · 05-21-2008, 5:12 PM

jkobflys,
I believe you are right, regarding HRC and Repsol. No doubt Colin should have gotten the seat in the premier racing class for the way he won the World Superbike title that year! I lost alot of respect for the Repsol team after thier lack of respect for what Collin did. AND, Colin won the Suzuka 8hr as well for Honda! If you are American and not winning on that team, your days are numbered. Its clear that HRC wants, first, a japanese rider on that team, to win the championship. Ukawa didnt pan out. Katoh, may he rest in peace, would have been on the Repsol team that following year, had he not had that accident. Criville, a Spaniard, won it for them. Then there is the obvious choices, meaning the most talented guys that they just couldnt pass up...Rossi, Doohan, Lawson, Gardner. Nicky's career, I think, in MotoGP will end, whenever that will be, on a different bike than what he is currently on...

nedro · 05-21-2008, 7:28 PM

I kinda think it will. He may not have a seat next year. But I'm hoping he will.

ptlcb1 · 05-21-2008, 7:47 PM

I dont think he will have the Repsol seat next year, but you just never know... If he is out with Honda, he will get plenty of offers, Im sure. Other than the 2 Yamaha teams, who else can really afford to pass on him? Kaw, Suz, Duc, and their satellite teams can benefit from having him. He is a stand up guy. He has won the title before. He rides his butt off all the time! Check out the number of laps that were run at the test, after the last round! His results this year, surely isnt from a lack of trying! I believe he was the only rider to run over 100 laps!

03swanman954 · 05-21-2008, 8:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skwyd

I used to corner marshal at Willow springs when Nicky, Tommy, and Roger Lee were referred to as the mighty mice of racing as pre teens. I have been a fan of Nicky not because of his riding skills which are very impressive, but because of his down to earth 'average joe' demeanor. He is not a show boater, he is not a 'playa', he is a guy who just so happens, knows how to race a superbike. So I will continue to be a fan even if he decides to ride a Buell. May not agree with that decision, but if you arent a loyal fan, then your a flake.

Yeah he is a good guy and all the Hayden brothers seem really down to earth , I think thats why us fans can associate with him so well.

I also think once Roger gets healthier he could be just as great if not better than older brother Nicky,, but time will tell.

.OrgOwner · 05-22-2008, 1:40 AM

I'm going to just remove the public swipes you guys are taking at each other. I've taken down the last post from each of you to get this back on topic.

djer73 · 05-22-2008, 7:15 AM

[quote=bettingpython;670611]I think we will see toseland come into his own in GP in the next few years. Riding for a support team means he is not getting the A list equipment like Val.

i agree toseland will have a big say in motogp over the next few years, once he has mastered the tracks etc, he has already shown what he is capable off. your wrong about what he is riding though, when he signed for tech3 yamaha it was in his contract and colin edwards' they have factory spec machines with the best michelin have to offer. basically colin and james are riding the same package as jorge lorenzo. they will be next year too as tech3 recently re-signed with yamaha for 2009.

djer73 · 05-22-2008, 7:50 AM

as for hayden, while he is a likeable guy and a real trier, he's record in motogp and the fact that he is not great at developing a bike, says to me it's dovi for repsol next year. rossi will stay at yamaha now he is back to winning ways and finally stopped moaning. lorenzo has a yamaha seat next year as does toseland, with edwards also saying he wants to stay on for another year at tech3, rather than return to ama to finish his career. hayden wont get a yamaha. suzuki may have a change in riders, vermulian isn't happy, so he might jump ship, leaving spies to take his ride. kawasaki will probably get rid of west, but would the bosses in japan want 2 american riders in the team? vermulian might join up with hopkins again. ducati is a maybe, but i don't think they will give hayden a factory ride, with bautista or barbera most likely to make the step up from 250's. that leaves hayden with d'antin or gresini honda. he's not happy on the honda so he won't go to gresini and i really don't think he'll want to ride around at the back of the grid in the second rate d'antin team. lcr honda will keep de puniet and he has nowhere else to go. the jir scot team will most likely bring yuki takahashi up from 250's, so honda have a japanese rider. nakano may be sent packing after under achieving, paving the way for melandri to return to gresini. de angelis will stay put and given a chance after a learning year. so the only place i think hayden can go with a factory bike that will win races is to world superbikes on the ducati vacated by the retiring troy bayliss. if it happens i really think hayden will shine.

jkobflys · 05-22-2008, 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by djer73

as for hayden, while he is a likeable guy and a real trier, he's record in motogp and the fact that he is not great at developing a bike, says to me it's dovi for repsol next year. rossi will stay at yamaha now he is back to winning ways and finally stopped moaning. lorenzo has a yamaha seat next year as does toseland, with edwards also saying he wants to stay on for another year at tech3, rather than return to ama to finish his career. hayden wont get a yamaha. suzuki may have a change in riders, vermulian isn't happy, so he might jump ship, leaving spies to take his ride. kawasaki will probably get rid of west, but would the bosses in japan want 2 american riders in the team? vermulian might join up with hopkins again. ducati is a maybe, but i don't think they will give hayden a factory ride, with bautista or barbera most likely to make the step up from 250's. that leaves hayden with d'antin or gresini honda. he's not happy on the honda so he won't go to gresini and i really don't think he'll want to ride around at the back of the grid in the second rate d'antin team. lcr honda will keep de puniet and he has nowhere else to go. the jir scot team will most likely bring yuki takahashi up from 250's, so honda have a japanese rider. nakano may be sent packing after under achieving, paving the way for melandri to return to gresini. de angelis will stay put and given a chance after a learning year. so the only place i think hayden can go with a factory bike that will win races is to world superbikes on the ducati vacated by the retiring troy bayliss. if it happens i really think hayden will shine.

it seems to make cence to me.

.OrgOwner · 06-02-2008, 9:08 PM

Well considering Haydens results so far this season it's not looking good for him in MotoGP. WSB might be the right call...

ptlcb1 · 06-02-2008, 9:34 PM

Nicky started well yesterday, then faded like a falling star! However, his best tracks are yet to come. I think the writing is on the wall for him, regardless of what he does for the rest of the season. The 800 doesnt suit him and clearly he is struggling. The silly season is still months away, and it will be interesting to see what his options are...

skwyd · 06-03-2008, 10:11 AM

As I watched the Races on Sunday, it felt almost like he would be happier going to either WSB, or AMA SB again. I agree with what ptlcb1 said that the 800 just isnt a good fit. I also cant wait to see Rog back in the mix again too. No matter what happens with Nickey I will always be a fan, but I would like to see him on a team where he is their premier rider as well so that the excuse of "his team does not support him" can't be considered.

nedro · 06-03-2008, 12:15 PM

Dani Pedrosa - Third

`That was a really tough race because Valentino´s pace was very, very fast. I got a good start and the rhythm was really high, at first I was able to go with them, then I had a battle with Casey. I tried to catch him at the end but it was impossible. It was great to be on the podium, it's a good result for the championship, but while consistency is always important, we need to win more races. The engine was good today, our main concern now is tyre consistency during the second part of races. I was losing the front towards the end of today´s race, so tyres are what we must focus on. It was very important that Okada finished today, gathering a lot of data which we will examine and discuss tonight. Valentino had his seventh win here today, I hope it will be my turn at Catalunya.´

Nicky Hayden - Thirteenth

`This morning we made a nice step, we made a suspension adjustment and the bike felt a lot better, so we had a pretty good pace. We were certainly unlucky in the race. I got an awesome start, felt pretty good, but it was clear from the beginning that we had a problem. Guys started coming past and there was nothing I could do, there was no way to defend. So I just tried to get to the finish and get a couple of points. They're checking the data now to see exactly what happened. Like I said, we were quite unlucky, I knew we didn't have Rossi´s pace this morning, but we had enough pace to be in there, to be quite competitive. I don't know yet which engine I´ll be using next weekend. To be honest, I've been concentrating on this race, so I haven't thought about it yet.´

03swanman954 · 06-03-2008, 7:34 PM

Its tough to watch Nicky doing so great and getting a good pole position only to fade to the back of the pack during the race. I dont know whats up with Nicky, but who knows maybe its time for a change. Time will tell.

djer73 · 06-04-2008, 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djer73

as for hayden, while he is a likeable guy and a real trier, he's record in motogp and the fact that he is not great at developing a bike, says to me it's dovi for repsol next year. rossi will stay at yamaha now he is back to winning ways and finally stopped moaning. lorenzo has a yamaha seat next year as does toseland, with edwards also saying he wants to stay on for another year at tech3, rather than return to ama to finish his career. hayden wont get a yamaha. suzuki may have a change in riders, vermulian isn't happy, so he might jump ship, leaving spies to take his ride. kawasaki will probably get rid of west, but would the bosses in japan want 2 american riders in the team? vermulian might join up with hopkins again. ducati is a maybe, but i don't think they will give hayden a factory ride, with bautista or barbera most likely to make the step up from 250's. that leaves hayden with d'antin or gresini honda. he's not happy on the honda so he won't go to gresini and i really don't think he'll want to ride around at the back of the grid in the second rate d'antin team. lcr honda will keep de puniet and he has nowhere else to go. the jir scot team will most likely bring yuki takahashi up from 250's, so honda have a japanese rider. nakano may be sent packing after under achieving, paving the way for melandri to return to gresini. de angelis will stay put and given a chance after a learning year. so the only place i think hayden can go with a factory bike that will win races is to world superbikes on the ducati vacated by the retiring troy bayliss. if it happens i really think hayden will shine.

the latest news in the uk press (mcn.com) is that colin edwards is wanted by ducati in world superbikes. colin also held talks with kawasaki in mugello. yamaha japan wont be paying his wages next year so tech 3 will have to find a main sponsor if they want to keep him. maybe hayden stands a chance of a yamaha ride after all???????

03swanman954 · 06-04-2008, 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djer73

the latest news in the uk press (mcn.com) is that colin edwards is wanted by ducati in world superbikes. colin also held talks with kawasaki in mugello. yamaha japan wont be paying his wages next year so tech 3 will have to find a main sponsor if they want to keep him. maybe hayden stands a chance of a yamaha ride after all???????

Nicky on a Yammy,,,thats got a nice sound to it. Better than Ducati if you ask me. Time will tell.