Mladin

tigerblade · 12-09-2003, 11:31 AM

For your entertainment. All taken from Soup.

4/7/03:

Mladin wrote: "I think Eric has forgotten what happened three years in a row, 99-01 when he was beaten fair and square when I was on a 750. He signed the contract with his current employer now he has to live with the decisions they make on which way they want to go racing. Kawasaki have been a very successful company in superbike racing all around the world. I should know, I won 30 or so national races with them in three years of Australian Superbikes in the early to mid 90's."

8/3/03:

"The thing that's annoying the most is that there's all these complaints about my bike," he added. "Obviously, I've won most of the races this year on the Suzuki 1000, but there are other guys on the same bike. I look forward to some guys getting a 1000 next year, put it that way. I think they are in for a big surprise."

12/8/03:

"I think we've got work to do," Mladin said. "I think the new rules suit the new bikes. We've got to go back to a different throttle body and all that sort of stuff." When asked how the new bike conforming to the new rules compared to the older specification, Mladin responded with a one word answer. "Slow," he said. Mladin ran down Ben Bostrom on the new Honda over several laps at one point in the afternoon, but wasn't particularly excited about it. "I ran him down before he got going. When he got going he was half a second quicker, easily." Mladin's clearly not content with his four AMA Superbike championships. "There's gonna be a lot of stuff going on between now and when we come back in March. But Suzuki have a lot of work to, let's put it that way, before we come back."

ccwilli3 · 12-09-2003, 11:47 AM

good research padiwan...

I think HE is in for a surprise!

BDA116 · 12-09-2003, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerblade

8/3/03:

"The thing that's annoying the most is that there's all these complaints about my bike," he added. "Obviously, I've won most of the races this year on the Suzuki 1000, but there are other guys on the same bike. I look forward to some guys getting a 1000 next year, put it that way. I think they are in for a big surprise."

This is my favorite part. According to this article, Ben is a bit surprised - but not in the way ol' matty boy had shot his mouth off about.
Excerpt:
"He did admit to being a bit taken aback by his Monday chart dominance, however. "Yeah, definitely. When we got out on the bike, I knew the thing was incredibly fast if we could get it through the corners, but we couldn't get through the corners. But then the corners started to come. I'm surprised we're fastest right now. I thought Mladin would be. Mat and Suzuki had all last year to dial themselves in -- I thought he'd be the guy to beat right now."

One full year of racing the thing, years on the same bike, yet Ben comes right out of the box on a new bike, hasn't ridden an inline four for years, no development and puts mladin in his place. then, this morning, Jake Zemke comes out and does the same. New rider to the Superbike world, supposed to be 'under' mladin.
Who's surprised now?
I've been watching the live times, and both Bostrom and Zemke were taking a break. While they were doing so, mladin was out trying to equal their times. He got under Zemke, but both the Hondas are back out again - smoking the Suzukis.
Mladin has a hard time remembering history while popping off at the mouth.

QuikMike · 12-09-2003, 11:59 AM

I think the Suzuki boys are starting to see the writing on the wall...Mladin is starting to get his excuses in line....It's not that Mat's not a good rider, it's just that he can't give credit where credit is due...instead of saying something positive about the competition like the rest of the field normally does, he just bitches and complains about how everything is so unfair...a complete whiner in my book...take your ass whuppings like a man!!!

ccwilli3 · 12-09-2003, 12:08 PM

zemke is impressing me on the RR. Keep in mind, he has really on ran a 600 around daytona. So to come out on a bigger bike, a new bike at that, he's doing nicely, IMO...

CyBeR929 · 12-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Being the lone Mladin defender here :-) I'll throw my two cents in. I don't think he's been inconsistent with his statements at all. He's admitting that he and Suzuki have some work to do if they want to be competitive. Is he very happy about having to revert back to stock throttle bodies? Probably not...Honda definatly one-upped Suzuki in that respect (putting the good stuff on their production bike). He knows that Suzuki is really going to have to step up in other areas of the bike since this years bike will theoretically be slower than last years bike.

That being said, Daytona is not a very good indicator of success for the rest of the year in Superbike. Unfortunatly for Mladin and Suzuki, this "should" be the one track they win at since the Honda will probably be more of a "balanced" bike as opposed to the Suzuki's power.

Obviously, it's too early to predict the year based on a day and a half of Daytona tire testing, but things do not bode well for Mladin or Suzuki at this point. I don't think they expected the Honda to be this fast straight out of the box. So, if you think that the above statements are Mladin complaining, you're in for a VERY long season

because I don't see his statements (based on current assessments...Honda's dipping into low 1:48's as I type while Mladin is stuck at mid 1:49's) getting any less bland than they are above.

ND4SPD · 12-09-2003, 12:14 PM

Any doctors in the house? Mladin needs a cure for AVS(acute vaginitis syndrom)

Heavy-Dee · 12-09-2003, 12:17 PM

This is what it sounds like to me. Those of you that may know better, please correct me where applicable.

The Suzook was built stock with a certian throttle body, and fuel injectors. The race team began to modify these. Modify the TB and added a set of FI's from what I hear. Basically, they cheated.

The Honda, now has this second set of injectors, and everything else that comes w/ a new bike. So the second set of FI's are legal on the Honda, b/c it is stock. Now the Susuckys can't run their other TB or second set of FI's and they are slower. Thus, Matty is whining.

Oh well boys. Sucks to be you. Go BEN!!!

HD

Disclaimer: Most of this is stuff I heard from my dealer who is a race guy w/ WERA and CSS. No proof. Also, it is an over simplified explination.

RRWANTR · 12-09-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Any doctors in the house? Mladin needs a cure for AVS(acute vaginitis syndrom)

deez · 12-09-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Any doctors in the house? Mladin needs a cure for AVS(acute vaginitis syndrom)

Yeah, he needs some pussy cream for his hurt pussy. No matter what, he will complain about his bike or the rules. That is unless his bike has the advantage. TB's post was good, I've read all that before but it's nice to have it stacked in a row, where you can read it all. He needs to STFU and just race.

BigDawg · 12-09-2003, 1:56 PM

Yeah, lets not forget the 750 came with dual sets of injectors a few years back on the production bike. No reason the 1K couldn't have. Zook chose not to develop/use it. Too bad!!!!!

It's just Matty boy doing his thing.

RRWANTR · 12-10-2003, 2:29 PM

http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/cweng/mladin.bmp

roadracer319 · 12-10-2003, 5:37 PM

Mladin and his Susucki can take deez nuts!

bluerazorback · 12-10-2003, 10:42 PM

You know i am really sick and tired of Matt Mladin. When things are going his way the Suzuki all conquering GSXR 1000 is the greatest machine on the earth. Yet, as soon as Honda comes out and blows his drawers off by 10 miles per hour at the first test of the bike he doesnt want to race! By the way, is he not going to race at Road Atlanta cause he blew a tire there last year?! Too, if Matt Mladin is such a great champion, why wont he go to either World Superbike or to Moto GP to further his success as a champion as most champions do?! Personally, I hope if he doesnt race Daytona then Suzuki fires him!!!

sweetonion · 12-11-2003, 12:27 AM

I wonder if he'd be happy if Infostrada picked him up? I wonder if EBoz would lead him around? I think Matt is a very talented rider, he's just got not tact.

tigerblade · 12-11-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetonion

I think Matt is a very talented rider, he's just got not tact.

Ditto.

CyBeR929 · 12-11-2003, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tigerblade

Ditto.

No doubt about it....you don't just stumble into 4 championships...I don't care how good your equipment is. I also think he's one of the most misunderstood riders there is. His position in the paddock of being a vetran rider who is not dependent on the sport to keep him from flipping burgers somewhere along with his championships gives him the freedom to say things that others cannot and the clout to have it mean something. His words carry alot of weight.

I've seen him slammed on almost every board, but nobody really disagrees with what he's saying (maybe just how he's saying it). DIS is no longer suitable for 1K bikes given the current tire technology. This isn't new...it's happened before. But he gets ripped for saying it. I think it takes a real set of 'nads to stand up to your employer and say "I won't race here". Do you really think Suzuki wants to hear that? Of course not. But he feels strongly enough about a bad outcome for him or someone else, that he's willing to apply that type of pressure to Suzuki, Dunlop, DIS, AMA. How do those organizations spin the fact that the champ won't race at one of the stops because it's unsafe? They can't, but if someone else were to say it (DiSalvo or Spies for example) it would probably not even be noticed.

Of course, he's not a saint and some of his statements (rules advantages and Suzuki not stepping up to the plate with dual throttle bodies like Honda has) have come home to roost. Sour grapes....probably...but it doesn't mean that every single word he utters is "whining". I'd venture to guess that 0 to very few people here have gone a true 180+ mph...not to mention doing it every 1:50 while surrounded by concrete walls for 200 miles. If you didn't believe in your equipment under those circumstances because of a proven record of failure, would you race?

As far as the "why hasn't he moved on" question, the answer to that is easy...money. He gets paid alot to race AMA...more than he would make in any other series other than MotoGP. He probably hasn't asked for or taken a MotoGP ride because of all the hassle involved...why bother when he can stay here in the US and race and win and get a nice paycheck on top of it all? There's no incentive to leave....he's old enough to not be welcome on most if not all MotoGP teams, so that leaves him here in the AMA where he seems pretty happy.

Now....where did I put my "Mladin Supporter" flame suit

Repsol_69 · 12-11-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyBeR929

No doubt about it....you don't just stumble into 4 championships...

As far as the "why hasn't he moved on" question, the answer to that is easy...money. He gets paid alot to race AMA...more than he would make in any other series other than MotoGP. He probably hasn't asked for or taken a MotoGP ride because of all the hassle involved...why bother when he can stay here in the US and race and win and get a nice paycheck on top of it all? There's no incentive to leave....he's old enough to not be welcome on most if not all MotoGP teams, so that leaves him here in the AMA where he seems pretty happy.

Sorry dood but I really dont agree with any of this post... These two part in particular. Matt in fact did stumble into at least two of his champoinships. last year more than ever, And dont forget about the race Aaron yates was putting an @ss whoopin on the b@stard and right before the finish line just about pulled over to the side of the track so mat could have the win. I wont even comment on the "Hayden Whoopin" cause Hayden is in a class far far above that of Mladin. The eBos comments from him were way out of line. I for one cant believe he actually thinks he is better then Eric.

Mladin is in NO WAY worthy of a MotoGP ride. I dont even think you could say the names of Rossi, Hayden, Checca, Biaggi, Barros...ect. in the same breath! Anyhoo for what it is worth Mladin has already ridden at the MotoGP level and they gave him the boot. I think he lasted a whole half season.

Good thing you put that flame retardent suit on!

fl-929 · 12-11-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CyBeR929

DIS is no longer suitable for 1K bikes given the current tire technology.

I think it's more appropriate to say that DIS (or Road Atlanta among other places) is no longer suitable for any 1K bikes using DUNPOPS current tire technology.

I don't blame any Dunlop rider on ANY high-speed track to have reservations using that tire.

Repsol_69 · 12-12-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fl-929

I think it's more appropriate to say that DIS (or Road Atlanta among other places) is no longer suitable for any 1K bikes using DUNPOPS current tire technology.

I don't blame any Dunlop rider on ANY high-speed track to have reservations using that tire.

I actually do agree with the statement here. My bad.

However the fact that Mladin is so "bravely" voicing his concern, Standing up to higher ups? BullSh!t. Coming from Mladin I call these nothing but excuses.

When Nicky was in his rookie season with Superbike, Mladin beat him, Yea. And with his cocky arse attitude, he collected the championship. The following year Nicky flat out schooled everyone and Mladin did nothing but piss and moan. "The bikes too fast, Its not fair, My suspension this, My tyres that..." Next season... he is the first one to start bashing people who have something to voice about bikes being faster than others.

So when Mat has a problem racing, I will not give him an ounce of credit. As far as I'm concerned his credit has been worn thin. I think they are nothing but excuses. There are a set of brothers waiting to hand out a good ol' fasion passionate. Take it like a man I say!!!