Rossi to Ducati?

FB1000inPA · 09-08-2009, 1:06 PM

Did anyone else hear the rumor that Rossi is pissed at Yamaha for signing Lorenzo and thinks of switching to Ducati next year. It seems he believes he does all the set-up work and now one of his hardest rival is getting his know-how for free.

jkobflys · 09-08-2009, 4:19 PM

Rossi is still under contract for 2010, but he made his oppinion heard that he was not happy with the one year extension to Geoge's contract, he said it's like setting him up for a choose one or the other for 2011, the way the rules are at the moment and knowing Spies will be in gp for 2011 with yamaha, he still has to ride for a satelite team his first year anyways.
as of now Team fiat yamaha has the two top rides anyways so who could they be thinking of for 2011?

jazzy · 09-08-2009, 4:28 PM

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Did anyone else hear the rumor that Rossi is pissed at Yamaha for signing Lorenzo and thinks of switching to Ducati next year. It seems he believes he does all the set-up work and now one of his hardest rival is getting his know-how for free.

But if he does go to Ducati.....I think he could show Stoner a few tricks.
What a shoot out, Rossi with all the power of the DUke....I think he'd turn Stoner over in a heartbeat!!
If he still wants to race then I think He'll go. And as for all the hard work he's done with Yamaha as he's done in the past with Honda, It would pi$$ me off as well if it was given to my closest rival !!

fotc1000rr · 09-11-2009, 3:44 AM

Definite

. There have been rumours that he wants to retire after racing for Ducati, so maybe he will be there in 2011. Imagine Mugello or San Marino if Rossi was on a Ducati. There would be riots...

.OrgOwner · 10-13-2009, 7:55 PM

I think it would be good to see him on the Ducati, bring it on.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 8:16 PM

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But if he does go to Ducati.....I think he could show Stoner a few tricks.
What a shoot out, Rossi with all the power of the DUke....I think he'd turn Stoner over in a heartbeat!!
If he still wants to race then I think He'll go. And as for all the hard work he's done with Yamaha as he's done in the past with Honda, It would pi$$ me off as well if it was given to my closest rival !!

Not so sure that Rossi could do that to Stoner, I know he is a genius but Stoner and that bike just Gel.

Although him on a duc in Italy waoo that would be amazing as long as he could handle it (Im going to get hammered for that lol)

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 8:20 PM

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Not so sure that Rossi could do that to Stoner, I know he is a genius but Stoner and that bike just Gel.

Although him on a duc in Italy waoo that would be amazing as long as he could handle it (Im going to get hammered for that lol)

Stoner is great, but Rossi is the best. It would be interesting to see Rossi on a bike everybody else fails on except for Stoner.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 8:34 PM

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Stoner is great, but Rossi is the best. It would be interesting to see Rossi on a bike everybody else fails on except for Stoner.

Ok then what about this, best of three:
Stoner, Rossi, Jorge and Dani all on the same Duc but 3 completely different courses?

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 8:51 PM

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Ok then what about this, best of three:
Stoner, Rossi, Jorge and Dani all on the same Duc but 3 completely different courses?

So far I have to say scatch Dani, and........Wow I am lost right now, give me a minute.......

good one

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 8:59 PM

Ok Stoner first due to his experience on the duc.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 9:04 PM

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Ok Stoner first due to his experience on the duc.

Agreed so lets change the goalposts slightly.

Lets put them all on a Benelli or an Aprilla

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 9:11 PM

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Agreed so lets change the goalposts slightly.

Lets put them all on a Benelli or an Aprilla

Your really starting to stress me out.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 9:14 PM

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Your really starting to stress me out.

HaHa Im glad but if you want to see me at my worst go to the Sticker thread

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 9:17 PM

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Agreed so lets change the goalposts slightly.

Lets put them all on a Benelli or an Aprilla

Rossi.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 9:20 PM

Seriously though it would be great to see them all on a bike that they have never touched before.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 9:22 PM

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Rossi.

Agreed but me thinks Jorge might upset him

spina220 · 10-13-2009, 9:24 PM

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Seriously though it would be great to see them all on a bike that they have never touched before.

I hear you, to sort of level out the playing field, but I still think they would all need some sort of advantage to beat Rossi. I think if Rossi was on a Duc his first year would definately open the door for someone else to win the championship, at least, he will definately need a little time to shake some of the demons off that #2 Duc.

setanta · 10-13-2009, 10:01 PM

Problem I have is why would duc make the #2 so bad that it dosnt perform, makes no sense, better to have two bikes up there (sec yamaha) than to make people believe its just the rider, for pr sake better to show off the machinery??

spina220 · 10-14-2009, 6:55 AM

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Problem I have is why would duc make the #2 so bad that it dosnt perform, makes no sense, better to have two bikes up there (sec yamaha) than to make people believe its just the rider, for pr sake better to show off the machinery??

I heard an interview with Hayden not to long ago and he said it was not the easiest bike to ride, and whatever they were paying Stoner was not enough. So that made me think that maybe it isn't the bike but the rider's personal preference. Maybe Stoner is comfortable on it where no body else can be.

dicknose · 10-14-2009, 7:49 AM

There is some real magic with Stoner and that bike.
Im not sure Rossi could tame it as well.

But throw Rossi and any of the other rides on a random bike and I think he would come out top - he is getter than good - he is great!

setanta · 10-14-2009, 8:34 AM

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I heard an interview with Hayden not to long ago and he said it was not the easiest bike to ride, and whatever they were paying Stoner was not enough. So that made me think that maybe it isn't the bike but the rider's personal preference. Maybe Stoner is comfortable on it where no body else can be.

Yeah I remember reading an article about Haga's bike the journalist was saying that his bike was set up really differently too. So maybe its horses for courses

jazzy · 10-14-2009, 9:14 AM

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I heard an interview with Hayden not to long ago and he said it was not the easiest bike to ride, and whatever they were paying Stoner was not enough. So that made me think that maybe it isn't the bike but the rider's personal preference. Maybe Stoner is comfortable on it where no body else can be.

This is always going to be the way, I mean think about it....You may ride a Honda within an inch of your life, but you may ride a Gixer like a bag of spanners.
I think it would be great as Setanta said to find the best RIDER, and that is to give them all the same bike. Its the same in F1 and any sport that involves an inanimate object. It can add to or take away credence from anyone if not suitable.

(got waffling then

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dicknose · 10-16-2009, 3:00 AM

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to find the best RIDER, and that is to give them all the same bike.

That would be the best rider on that bike.

Change the bike and it could be a different rider that is the best.

setanta · 10-16-2009, 5:49 AM

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That would be the best rider on that bike.

Change the bike and it could be a different rider that is the best.

So your saying its the machines, sad if true but I understand what your saying
Was going to make the suggestion that they ride in several races with different bikes (same bikes in each race of course) but if we take your sentiment into consideration then it would simply be a case of who gels with the most bikes.

BUT....................surely that would show "who" is best

spina220 · 10-16-2009, 7:23 AM

I like the idea of all the different motorcycle companies all having the same rules and guidlines and building a bike based on that to see who is best. I mean lets face it where do you think most of the money comes from to even have motogp, the maufacturers who make the bikes, one company will never be able to make motogp bikes for the whole field. I am sure each company wants their bragging rights for winning also. I think if they were all on the same bikes you would REALLY be sick of watching Rossi win.

jazzy · 10-16-2009, 9:24 AM

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That would be the best rider on that bike.

Change the bike and it could be a different rider that is the best.

Good point

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So your saying its the machines, sad if true but I understand what your saying
Was going to make the suggestion that they ride in several races with different bikes (same bikes in each race of course) but if we take your sentiment into consideration then it would simply be a case of who gels with the most bikes.

BUT....................surely that would show "who" is best

At the end of the day I guess it does come down to how the rider gels with the bike. I mean, after their contract has finished they can move on to another machine.

setanta · 10-16-2009, 10:16 AM

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Good point

At the end of the day I guess it does come down to how the rider gels with the bike. I mean, after their contract has finished they can move on to another machine.

Yes thats what Im saying the best "geller" would be the rider with the most natural talent

denzee · 10-16-2009, 10:26 AM

Don't mean to throw in another variable but the crew chief is huge. That why riders who switch teams almost always bring along their crew chief because they both have the ability to work together and solve issues.

Lets face it, all the top bikes are great machines. The top riders are also very good. The team that is best able to put the package together will usually win. When you are talking 10ths of seconds on lap time, even the most minor or what would seem insignificant change can result in a podium finish.

Rossi to Ducati would be great for two reasons. He loves a challenge and wants to beat Stoner and Lorenzo for that matter. Also for him to finally be with the Italian team would be great.

Having said that, I think Spies will be the one to watch next year in MotoGP

spina220 · 10-16-2009, 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by denzee

Don't mean to throw in another variable but the crew chief is huge. That why riders who switch teams almost always bring along their crew chief because they both have the ability to work together and solve issues.

Lets face it, all the top bikes are great machines. The top riders are also very good. The team that is best able to put the package together will usually win. When you are talking 10ths of seconds on lap time, even the most minor or what would seem insignificant change can result in a podium finish.

Rossi to Ducati would be great for two reasons. He loves a challenge and wants to beat Stoner and Lorenzo for that matter. Also for him to finally be with the Italian team would be great.

Having said that, I think Spies will be the one to watch next year in MotoGP

jazzy · 10-16-2009, 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by denzee

Don't mean to throw in another variable but the crew chief is huge. That why riders who switch teams almost always bring along their crew chief because they both have the ability to work together and solve issues.

Lets face it, all the top bikes are great machines. The top riders are also very good. The team that is best able to put the package together will usually win. When you are talking 10ths of seconds on lap time, even the most minor or what would seem insignificant change can result in a podium finish.

Rossi to Ducati would be great for two reasons. He loves a challenge and wants to beat Stoner and Lorenzo for that matter. Also for him to finally be with the Italian team would be great.

Having said that, I think Spies will be the one to watch next year in MotoGP