[uncagedcycle]

Admin Edit: Uncaged Cycles is no longer a site sponsor. They chose to log onto the site with another account to promote their products as if they were a satisfied customer, and we don't want to be associated with that type of behavior.






Hello Fireblades.org members,

We are a site sponsor here on Fireblades.org

We are Uncaged Cycle Products, a new company specializing in premium frame sliders for sportbikes. We believe our frame sliders are a notch above what is available in the market today. Please check out our website, www.uncagedcycle.com and browse through our pages to learn about our frame sliders.

We are currently running an introductory promotional offer on all of our available frame sliders. All Uncaged Frame Sliders are on sale for $20 off our regular price for a limited time and based on availability.

Frame Sliders now available:

Honda CBR929/954RR
Honda 04-06 CBR1000RR
Honda 03-06 CBR600RR (now available!)
Suzuki 03-04 GSX-R1000
Yamaha 06 FZ1
Yamaha 04-06 FZ6
Yamaha 02-03 YZF-R1
Yamaha 03-06 YZF-R6

Coming Soon:

Suzuki 04-05 GSX-R600/750 (available mid June)
Suzuki 97-03 GSX-R600 (available mid June)
Suzuki 96-03 GSX-R750 (available mid June)
Suzuki 01-02 GSX-R1000 (available mid June)
Yamaha 04-06 YZF-R1 (available mid June)

[BDA116]

Very interesting design. Looks like you took Woodcraft's concept and evolved it a bit. I like how the sleder itself screws into the base rather than bolts to it, but then it makes me curious if it would just pop right out in the event of an impact.
If you had a set for the 600RR I might have grabbed a set just to check them out, as they do look interesting.

[eyauch]

Originally Posted by BDA116

Very interesting design. Looks like you took Woodcraft's concept and evolved it a bit. I like how the sleder itself screws into the base rather than bolts to it, but then it makes me curious if it would just pop right out in the event of an impact.
If you had a set for the 600RR I might have grabbed a set just to check them out, as they do look interesting.

Very good question. I was wonder that myself since I am need of getting a set. "if it would just pop right out in the event of an impact."

[MACI4LIFE]

i'm in for a try. email sent.

[uncagedcycle]

Originally Posted by eyauch

Very good question. I was wonder that myself since I am need of getting a set. "if it would just pop right out in the event of an impact."

Thank you for your comments, BDA116, and eyauch. The above was actually one of our concerns also when we initially evaluated this design. However, there are several things we know that alleviate this concern.

• In addition to being threaded, the slider tip is overlapped rather deeply inside the 6061-T6 aluminum base.
• The slider tip is solid inside the base (no holes except at the very bottom ½” to clear the bolt head). Our engineering analysis says that the tip will not distort in a way that would cause it to pop out under the side forces expected when a motorcycle falls on the ground. The tip is designed to compress slightly to reduce the initial impact force on the ground, but will not distort meaningfully in other ways.
• The only forces acting on the slider in a crash scenario are either toward or to the side of the motorcycle. There are no forces acting in a direction away from the motorcycle which would have a potential to pop the tip out of the base.
• Although not specifically posted on our website, we have done real life slide testing with our 380lb test sled on ROUGH, potholed asphalt with prototype tips that varied in length (with long leverage ratios vs the overlap with the base), with and without threads securing the plastic tip to the aluminum base. In no case did the slider tip ever “pop out” of the base. The reason why we chose a tip with a 1 3/8” effective tip length out of the base is because we feel no slide will come close to grinding our particular tip design all the way down to the base, and the 1 3/8” length gives us design flexibility to adapt our design to many motorcycle models.

And to answer the comment about evolving Woodcraft’s design: We actually designed and prototyped our frame sliders before Woodcraft came on the market with their design. Our business side took a while to get started, and that’s why we have begun to sell our sliders only recently.

We believe we have functional advantages over the Woodcraft sliders. The Woodcraft design has a large hole inside the plastic tip to allow mounting over what is essentially a small aluminum rod. That means most of the crash forces transmitted from the tip to the aluminum base will be concentrated over that small mounting area. Our frame slider design spreads that force out over a much larger area. In the Woodcraft design, there is also a small side bolt that holds the tip to the base, but the presence of that side hole weakens both the tip and the base rod. Our tips are solid. Lastly, we use UHMW-PE material in our tips, which have been tested to be substantially longer-wearing than Delrin. If you haven’t seen it already, please visit our tech info pages to see the results of our tip comparison testing.

I apologize for the long post – we aim to provide as much information as possible to answer our customer’s concerns.

[BDA116]

Yeah, I visited your site and the design does interest me. I really like the full face slider both you and Woodcraft sell.
Let me know when you have a set for the 600RR. I currently have Woodcrafts on my track bike, but would like to see how yours work.
Both companies designing a very similar yet different from the norm setup is a good testament to that new idea.
Does your slider tip extend further from the bodywork than the Woodcraft, or have you had the opportunity to really measure them one on one like that?

[seamus]

Originally Posted by BDA116

Yeah, I visited your site and the design does interest me. I really like the full face slider both you and Woodcraft sell...Both companies designing a very similar yet different from the norm setup is a good testament to that new idea.
Does your slider tip extend further from the bodywork than the Woodcraft, or have you had the opportunity to really measure them one on one like that?

on all that. I'd buy a set for the 1000RR.

I'd rather not have to actually test them but after seeing how quickly my Vortex hollow center sliders ground down I definitely would like more, and more durable, slider material between the bike and the track.

Have you tested a similar design for other areas; ie. swingarm spool/slider, axle, etc?

[uncagedcycle]

Originally Posted by seamus

on all that. I'd buy a set for the 1000RR.

I'd rather not have to actually test them but after seeing how quickly my Vortex hollow center sliders ground down I definitely would like more, and more durable, slider material between the bike and the track.

Have you tested a similar design for other areas; ie. swingarm spool/slider, axle, etc?

We are currently working on the 600RR and 1000RR as high priority models. We will announce when they are ready for sale.

We have not as of yet tested sliders for the swingarm, spool, etc.

[Latebraking]

Originally Posted by uncagedcycle

Hello Fireblades.org members,


We are a new company specializing in making premium frame sliders for sportbikes. Please check out our website, www.uncagedcycle.com to find out more about our products.

We believe our frame sliders are a notch above what is available in the market today in quality and function. However, because we are a new company, our biggest problem is our lack of name recognition in the marketplace. In light of that fact, we are running a limited promotional offer on our CBR929/CBR954RR model frame sliders.

For the first 5 participants to respond, we are offering a $25 discount from our normal web prices. All that we ask in return is that you post your honest opinions about our product in this message-board, and post pictures of the Uncaged Cycle Products frame sliders mounted on your bike (and allow us the use of those pics). Obviously, we are very confident in our products, but we do need more public advocates to spread the message to others.

If you are interested in our offer, please email us at promotions@uncagedcycle.com and we will respond quickly with a promotion code you can use to get the discount in our web store.

For those with other bike models beside the CBR929/CBR954RR, Uncaged Cycle Products is constantly striving to improve and expand our product line. If you like what you see on our website and are interested in seeing Uncaged frame sliders for your particular model, please email us at productsuggestions@uncagedcycle.com

How about a set for the (my, actually) 2006 GSX-R750?

[Getsome]

Originally Posted by uncagedcycle

We are currently working on the 600RR and 1000RR as high priority models. We will announce when they are ready for sale.

We have not as of yet tested sliders for the swingarm, spool, etc.

I would like to see them when ready for the 1000rr as long as there is no cutting involved.. and some for the swingarm/spools as well... very interested in the design since I too have a set that is hollow and after hearing how others have ground down so bad it might be time for a change before they get tested.)I hope they never do but we wouldn't put them on the bike if we didn't expect it to happen eventually, again for most of us.)

[seamus]

Originally Posted by Getsome

... very interested in the design since I too have a set that is hollow and after hearing how others have ground down so bad it might be time for a change before they get tested.

~30' of track before the bike went into the grass during lowside at Lil Talledega. Don't get me wrong, both did their job well, not even a scratch on the frame or swingarm. But this was a short on-track slide and it wouldn't have taken much more for either slider to have reached its limit. On both sliders, the retaining bolt is not much further from what remains.

1st pic: Vortex frame slider
2nd pic: Shogun swing arm slider/spool

[Tornado bait]

anticipating the 600RR model.

[Chekman]

I still got the promotion price.
Sweet!!!
I figured 5 would have been done by now!?


But, will you make the insert part avalible seperately?

[TraumaOne]

If you ever make a no-cut 2006 ZX-10R slider, I'd buy it.

[southpark460]

Originally Posted by TraumaOne

If you ever make a no-cut 2006 ZX-10R slider, I'd buy it.

A few breezes too late, isn't it?

[TraumaOne]

yep...


damage wasn't as bad as it could have been...

[transit]

Excuse my ignorance, but are these the same as oggies?

James, do you make these for earlier 'blades like mine? How much is postage to Australia? Thanks.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by transit

Excuse my ignorance, but are these the same as oggies?

Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell are "oggies"?

[uncagedcycle]

Originally Posted by transit

Excuse my ignorance, but are these the same as oggies?

James, do you make these for earlier 'blades like mine? How much is postage to Australia? Thanks.

I believe "oggies" are another generic term to describe "frame sliders", although if you are referring to "Oggy Knobs" the brand of sliders, I would beg to differ in that our sliders are most definitely not the "same"!

Unfortunately, we do not cover the CBR900 model and it is not in our immediate product development roadmap. However, if enough people request sliders for that model and we see the demand, we would gladly put it in our plans. Please email us with product requests/suggestions.

Shipping to Australia generally runs ~20-25 US dollars by USPS. There may be extra customs fees on top of that - that varies by country.

Regards,

[Pete]

Please keep us up to date on the release of new products. I'm keenly interested in a set for my '06 1000RR.

Sorry if you've already answered this question, but do you plan on any no-cut sliders?

[uncagedcycle]

Originally Posted by Pete

Please keep us up to date on the release of new products. I'm keenly interested in a set for my '06 1000RR.

Sorry if you've already answered this question, but do you plan on any no-cut sliders?

Hi there. We have finished prototyping the cut-versions of the '06 1000RR sliders and we are expecting a large lot of them to be availabe in June. We may produce a small batch a bit earlier than that to meet initial demand - we'll keep you posted.

As far as no-cut sliders: We pride ourselves on offering what we believe are the best performing sliders on the market, and we have made a business decision to not make compromises on functionality for the sake of slightly higher sales. While some bike models are amenable to offset brackets that can be designed to perform reasonably as well as direct-mounts (cut versions), we don't believe the 1000RR is that kind of model. On the 1000RR, offset brackets must be mounted on a weaker (less supported) part of the frame, and the brackets themselves must be fairly thin to fit in the available space. Based on our cursory analysis, we have not seen any no-cut sliders from our competition that we believe would perform as well as direct-mounts, and we have not been able to design a better one ourselves. This is not to say we won't come up with a brilliant design in the future, but we currently don't have any immediate ideas or plans for no-cut versions for the 1000RR.

Hope this makes sense - if you are dead-set on not cutting your fairings, please don't let this dissuade you from purchasing no-cut sliders that are available out there from other vendors - in certain cases no-cut sliders do provide better protection than no sliders. It's just not a path we at Uncaged have decided to pursue.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Pete

Please keep us up to date on the release of new products. I'm keenly interested in a set for my '06 1000RR.

Sorry if you've already answered this question, but do you plan on any no-cut sliders?

FYI: I have no cut sliders on my 1000RR. I would not recommend them nor put them on anything else. I have seen them in operation (thankfully not on mine) and the result is less than satisfactory. At Barber I saw a bike with one that folded and did a fair amount of damage vs my RC (regular cut) which worked text book perfect

[Pete]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

FYI: I have no cut sliders on my 1000RR. I would not recommend them nor put them on anything else.

I wasn't planning on it; I was just asking for a friend. I have never liked what I saw when examining no-cut sliders, and have no reservations about cutting a hole in my fairings.