blown engine? good exuse to start another fighter.

dick hurtz · 09-10-2009, 6:53 AM

fak me hell! another blown engine. stripped my '00 blade the other night and got to thinking about all the crazy looks i use to get on my 98 blade fighter and thought fak it, lets do it again. if somthing is fun to do it's usually more fun to do naked right? (well usually, i don't recomend welding naked don't ask me how i know)

. anyway i'm gonna be building wicked motor for it over the next couple months so i've got time to work it all out.

so here's a pic of the soon to be hooligen, i need some fresh ideas, i went the full german route last time and it was insanly expensive but worth it however with the engine rebuild taking most of the budget i'm going to have to fighter it on the cheap. (can you say ebay!)

bladeracer · 09-10-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dick hurtz

i don't recomend welding naked

Or grinding, porting or frying bacon and eggs!

LoopyLee · 09-10-2009, 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

Or grinding, porting or frying bacon and eggs!

Are you speaking from personal experience there?

bladeracer · 09-10-2009, 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoopyLee

Are you speaking from personal experience there?

Yep! Made all three of those mistakes more than once, as well as the welding :-)
Sitting for a couple of hours porting nude (due to the summer heat - you don't get that where you are though) and upon standing up discovering you have a lap full of aluminium chippings - you know right away it was a big mistake :-)

LoopyLee · 09-10-2009, 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

Sitting for a couple of hours porting nude (due to the summer heat - you don't get that where you are though) and upon standing up discovering you have a lap full of aluminium chippings - you know right away it was a big mistake :-)

I bet you would.. It doesn't bear thinking about

Sideshow bob · 09-10-2009, 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dick hurtz

fak me hell! another blown engine. stripped my '00 blade the other night and got to thinking about all the crazy looks i use to get on my 98 blade fighter and thought fak it, lets do it again. if somthing is fun to do it's usually more fun to do naked right? (well usually, i don't recomend welding naked don't ask me how i know)

. anyway i'm gonna be building wicked motor for it over the next couple months so i've got time to work it all out.

so here's a pic of the soon to be hooligen, i need some fresh ideas, i went the full german route last time and it was insanly expensive but worth it however with the engine rebuild taking most of the budget i'm going to have to fighter it on the cheap. (can you say ebay!)

yeah another fighter thread to watch....

make sure you post plenty of pictures*

*Errrrr..... whatever Loopy says.. remember, No Naked welding pics

bladeracer · 09-10-2009, 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow bob

Errrrr..... whatever Loopy says.. remember, No Naked welding pics

That reminds me, a mate walked in the back door one night to find me happily porting away nude - he didn't hang around long :-)
It works on Mormons and Witnesses doorknocking as well :-)

LoopyLee · 09-10-2009, 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow bob

*Errrrr..... whatever Loopy says.. remember, No Naked welding pics

I would never suggest such a thing....

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

That reminds me, a mate walked in the back door one night to find me happily porting away nude - he didn't hang around long :-)
It works on Mormons and Witnesses doorknocking as well :-)

I bet it does

929ADAM · 09-10-2009, 5:41 PM

i just finished 2 929's this year...i dont have any good pics right now, but heres a couple of each in their fighter process.

vfr800 arm etc

my dream 929 come to life. darkness mofukka

dick hurtz · 09-10-2009, 7:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

That reminds me, a mate walked in the back door one night to find me happily porting away nude - he didn't hang around long :-)
It works on Mormons and Witnesses doorknocking as well :-)

mormons for sure, i'd been out for a ride on a hot day and was toweling down in the garage when two of those wankers rolled up on bicycles, you can imagine their suprise when they find me with my leathers pulled down to my ankles and my hairy sweaty arse exposed for all to see

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pulling my crank this after noon

to see how bad the damage is. i'm sending it to APE for the mill work, they said they'll let me know on tuesday if we're doing a stroker or not(depends on the damage). either way that crank will be bullet proof when it comes back. i got my eye on some carillo rods but i have to wait for the report on the crank before i can start buying parts. the fighter portion of this build will be done long before the engine i think. my bike won't look that much different than 929adam's because all my bikes end being black although i'm planning on leaving the polished frame and swing arm as is. i've had an idea to use a k4 gsxr1000 race tail, head lights i'm not sure yet........... hmmmmmmm, what do ya think?

LoopyLee · 09-11-2009, 2:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dick hurtz

mormons for sure, i'd been out for a ride on a hot day and was toweling down in the garage when two of those wankers rolled up on bicycles, you can imagine their suprise when they find me with my leathers pulled down to my ankles and my hairy sweaty arse exposed for all to see

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It can't be good for me to laugh this much this early in the morning

bladeracer · 09-11-2009, 5:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dick hurtz

mormons for sure, i'd been out for a ride on a hot day and was toweling down in the garage when two of those wankers rolled up on bicycles, you can imagine their suprise when they find me with my leathers pulled down to my ankles and my hairy sweaty arse exposed for all to see

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Mormons are one of the few opportunities I get to chat with Americans face to face though :-)

As long as they stick to reality I don't mind chatting with them actually. You have to repsect their dedication to toss all that money into a lottery just to end up spending a year in some godforsaken place knocking on people's doors every day. A Texan guy told me he hasn't found Perth to be very different from home :-)

dick hurtz · 09-11-2009, 6:14 AM

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Mormons are one of the few opportunities I get to chat with Americans face to face though :-)

As long as they stick to reality I don't mind chatting with them actually. You have to repsect their dedication to toss all that money into a lottery just to end up spending a year in some godforsaken place knocking on people's doors every day. A Texan guy told me he hasn't found Perth to be very different from home :-)

i didn't realize that morons (oops i ment mormons) exported there own goods!
my dad is from Rockhampton and i'm always supprised when i see more rednecks there than when i'm here in the states, it is kind of the same (kinda).

almost forgot i started this thread, i pulled the whole motor apart tonight and discoverd a serious crack in the block, most likely have to scrap it for another one. i'm considering getting a used lump off ebay just so i can go forward with the fighter build but i want the bitch to fast first and look good second, so i'll have to do some scrounging around and see what i can find.

just in case anybody is interested i'm typing this naked with the blinds open and there's not a mormon in sight damnit!

bladeracer · 09-11-2009, 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dick hurtz

i didn't realize that morons (oops i ment mormons) exported there own goods!
my dad is from Rockhampton and i'm always supprised when i see more rednecks there than when i'm here in the states, it is kind of the same (kinda).

almost forgot i started this thread, i pulled the whole motor apart tonight and discoverd a serious crack in the block, most likely have to scrap it for another one. i'm considering getting a used lump off ebay just so i can go forward with the fighter build but i want the bitch to fast first and look good second, so i'll have to do some scrounging around and see what i can find.

just in case anybody is interested i'm typing this naked with the blinds open and there's not a mormon in sight damnit!

Haven't been to Queensland but I've heard similar stories and met people from there :-)
If you're planning to bore it then I'd also suggest starting with a 100% good block. If you're just doing bottom end and head work though, I'd try welding it up first.

dick hurtz · 09-11-2009, 6:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

Haven't been to Queensland but I've heard similar stories and met people from there :-)
If you're planning to bore it then I'd also suggest starting with a 100% good block. If you're just doing bottom end and head work though, I'd try welding it up first.

good call on the 100% block, i've got some thinking to do.

had a chance to get my hands on a low mile k4 gsxr1000, should have taken it but i like my blades for some unkown reason........
I liked the original idea of a stock bottom end with a built head but now i need a good block to start with.

dick hurtz · 09-18-2009, 4:47 AM

Ok, just an update on the blade fighter, got the crank checked out and its good so it will be going to get reworked this week. i'm not doing the stroker so the money was going to go into the head but i got side-tracked and bought an 05 gsxr 600 because i was about to go on a killing spree with my AK47 from lack of seat time. so with the head budget blown on the new ride i'm going to throw some street cams in it and call it good. it won't be quite the monster i had in mind but with the cams and a good tune it should give me the 150hp i've been looking for. i've done some work to the sub frame to fit the gixxer tail i picked up, i'll post some pics when i get a chance to take some, i'm more into riding than wrenching right now......

more to come........

dick hurtz · 09-18-2009, 4:50 AM

hey 929adam, i know you want to tell me where you got that belly pan right?

929ADAM · 10-11-2009, 1:23 AM

its an original 929 belly pan...modified!

whats up with it man? i was hoping your damn motor was going to be built...I'm looking into doing up the motor on my polished bike 929...but I've never seen much other than tit. valves and springs. you mentioned doing your crank and rods...

what else?? can I use a 954 cyl. with the 929 crank?? or increase the 929 to 954..or possibly even 955??? (i have a triumph 955 rim i'm hoping to fit to it)

what about velocity stacks on the 929, what kind of power do those let out??

pcIII still the way to go, i assume???

what about putting some 1000RR Fuel Injectors on it???

maybe i could make the motor snort cocaine?!? i want this biatch to rip! haha

bladeracer · 10-11-2009, 3:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 929ADAM

...I'm looking into doing up the motor on my polished bike 929...but I've never seen much other than tit. valves and springs. you mentioned doing your crank and rods...

what else?? can I use a 954 cyl. with the 929 crank?? or increase the 929 to 954..or possibly even 955??? (i have a triumph 955 rim i'm hoping to fit to it)

what about velocity stacks on the 929, what kind of power do those let out??

pcIII still the way to go, i assume???

what about putting some 1000RR Fuel Injectors on it???

You can't use the 954 cylinders since they're part of the cases but you could use 954 cases or bore the 929 cases to 954 or bore the 929 to 979cc.
The 929 and 954 cranks are the same so you can stroke either of them.
Velocity stacks, maybe 1-2% depending on how the rest of the motor is working.
I can't see any problem with running 1000RR twin-injector throttle bodies but you'd want to run the entire electrics if you want the system to work as it does on the 1000RR. I think I've read about somebody running them on a 929 but just using one of the injectors. I'm running 954 throttle bodies on my 929.

dick hurtz · 10-12-2009, 4:00 AM

I forgot all about this thread, here's what i got so far: block has been bored 2 over and re-chromed (whatever that means), the pistons and rods are on order from ap and the crank came this week. the head is far from complete, as of now i haven't taken it apart yet but it will be getting some cams and a valve job as well as a healthy dose of porting and polishing. i'm considering a custom cam profile as i've been told the street cams don't make much difference and the drag cams are too peaky. tuning will be done via pcIII and an ignition box. the engine builder is sure the stock injectors will do the job as long as i'm under 180whp.

thats about it, i'll put some pics up later this week but progress will be very slow do to lack of work and funds, i'm predicting 7 to 8 months to complete the bike.

929ADAM · 10-17-2009, 5:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

You can't use the 954 cylinders since they're part of the cases but you could use 954 cases or bore the 929 cases to 954 or bore the 929 to 979cc.
The 929 and 954 cranks are the same so you can stroke either of them.
Velocity stacks, maybe 1-2% depending on how the rest of the motor is working.
I can't see any problem with running 1000RR twin-injector throttle bodies but you'd want to run the entire electrics if you want the system to work as it does on the 1000RR. I think I've read about somebody running them on a 929 but just using one of the injectors. I'm running 954 throttle bodies on my 929.

thanks for the info. i've just been digging around trying to find some built 929's without too much luck.

have any links or know of any impressive builds i could check out??

dick hurtz · 10-20-2009, 4:09 AM

yeah, i didnt find sh*t when i looked. bladeracer told me about CBRZONE.com. they got some stuff and offer all the machine work but the turn around time was too long. one of the guys i ride with recommended a local drag bike builder who is currently doing all my work. he raced a 900rr for ten years so he knows his stuff.

stroker rods came (shhhweeeeet). just waiting for pistons now. took the head apart (lots of pieces), going to buy a set of oem cams and have them reground. Tony, the engine builder is trying to sell me his old turbo set up but i'm pretty set on an n/a engine for reliability sake. had a turbo busa and loved it but it's a pain in the a$$. more later..........