[slickwill]

Just finalized everything on this. I actually haven't even seen it yet but it is sitting in my friends garage now about 8 hours away from me. He picked it up for me a few hours ago, unfortunately it will probably be almost a month before we get it transferred to my garage.

Team Honda's 2003 Honda XR650R N2 bike. This bike was ridden by Johnny Campbell...if you know anything about XR650s he's arguably the best Honda Endurance Rider of all time.
I bought this bike from RPM in May and because it was Team Honda's and had never been sold to the public, it has a full 6 month warranty on the motor. This warranty is good through the end of July. I just got a offer from Honda Motor Corp to extend the warranty for 4 years for an add $400 (also a 1, 2, and 3 year option) that's a fully warrantied race ready bike!
About the bike:
This was their back up bike, N2. They used it to race (and win 1st place) at The Best of the Desert in Vegas. The bike has all of the best parts that money can buy: A full hand welded titanium pro circuit pipe (it's sounds awesome), titanium rear spring, Suspension done by Bobby Bell, titanium rear shock spring, brakes done by Braking: with a Wave front rotor, BRB triple clamp, mount for Scotts Steering stabilizer, huge alum radiators, custom computer drilled air cover, aftermarket ignition box to give it more spark/power enough to run the big desert lights, high compression piston, Honda jet kit (all done by team Honda) and I’m sure a few more things.

Should be an awesome starting point for a SuMo. Supposed to have monster power.

[jhonda41]

schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet


no electric start though?

I made a similar choice in June... street legal XR400...

it once took me over 50 tries to kick start it

[ghbzorro]

Originally Posted by slickwill

Should be an awesome starting point for a SuMo.

SuMo? Suggest UlMo (Ultra-Motard) or UMo (Uber-Motard) . Sure looks like it could be a bit of fun when you're finished..

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by jhonda41

schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet


no electric start though?

I made a similar choice in June... street legal XR400...

it once took me over 50 tries to kick start it

I hope it never takes me that long. It has the high compression piston so it will be a monster to start if not done right. My friend says it starts first kick every time for him and until he picked it up for me yesterday he'd never kickstarted a bike in his life.


Phone conversation with my friend while he was picking it up for me:

Him: You're planning to ride this thing on the street?
Me: Uh, yeah...that's the plan.
Him: You are going to get in SOOOO much trouble.
Me: Yep.

SuMo? Suggest UlMo (Ultra-Motard) or UMo (Uber-Motard) . Sure looks like it could be a bit of fun when you're finished..

I like U-Mo. I might go with that.

[Red Rider]

Originally Posted by slickwill

Should be an awesome starting point for a SuMo. Supposed to have monster power.

That's a helluva starting point! You better hold on tight when you twist it!

[.OrgOwner]

So what exactly are the plans and total budget for the project? Looks like your off to the right kind of start anyway. Are you planning on any cross training in the dirt?

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

So what exactly are the plans and total budget for the project? Looks like your off to the right kind of start anyway. Are you planning on any cross training in the dirt?

Plans: Full dual-sport wiring harness. 17in sumo rims and tires (probably the Continental Contiforce SM, they seem to have the best all around reviews for on road and light off road). I'm not going to touch power, gearing, suspension, or anything like that for now. It has full worked over suspension done by Bobby Bell. A 320mm rotor with caliper relocater at some point but it does already have an upgraded Braking set-up with wave rotor that will be sufficient for now. Eventually I'd like to go to all black and white plastics but that will about the very last thing done.

Total Budget: Umm, yeah...the F4i is for sale. Partly to help pay for this project but the leftover will be added to the 848 fund. The final plan is the U-Mo for running around and the 848 for everything you use an 848 for. I just decided that I can't live with only an 848. It just doesn't do it as a daily commuter and the F4i is too much like the 848 to want to have it and an F4i.

Cross Training: Not really, other than for the dirt and gravel roads that are all over Iowa that I won't ride the F4i on. I'd like to sell off the dirt rims and tires to help finance the other stuff but don't really want to split up a bike like this so I haven't decided.

[jhonda41]

Originally Posted by slickwill

Total Budget: Umm, yeah...the F4i is for sale. Partly to help pay for this project but the leftover will be added to the 848 fund. The final plan is the U-Mo for running around and the 848 for everything you use an 848 for. I just decided that I can't live with only an 848. It just doesn't do it as a daily commuter and the F4i is too much like the 848 to want to have it and an F4i.

Did I miss a thread? You picked up an 848?


If you would have said something earlier (like last month) or you lived closer I'd take that f4i off your hands.

-jh

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by jhonda41

Did I miss a thread? You picked up an 848?


If you would have said something earlier (like last month) or you lived closer I'd take that f4i off your hands.

-jh

No, sorry, I wasn't clear. The money from the F4i will go into the 848 fund. The 848 probably won't come for a little while since I decided to do the sumo first. After my 848 test ride I realized that I'll need an everyday commuter so decided to start working on a sumo to fill that need.

[Grover130]

You lucky dog = Post some pics when it's road worthy.

[Bryce Auten]

im looking to do the same i found a good canidate Some one told me you can put old f3 rims on them Would make it a bit cheaper than $$ excel rims
I'm starting to get the shakes sense the 929 is gone
check this one out
im gonna go take a look see thursday or friday

and am shooting for look wise one of these
being 6'4" i;ll be more comfy on a xr than my old 929

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by Bryce Auten

Some one told me you can put old f3 rims on them Would make it a bit cheaper than $$ excel rims

You can put F3 rims on but you have to have spacers custom machined and it takes a lot of machine work on the rear rim to make it fit. There is a lot more info on the F3 rim conversion at supermotojunkie.

[Surffrog]

Originally Posted by slickwill

Total Budget: Umm, yeah...the F4i is for sale.

Wow, Slick. I never thought I'd see the day. The 848 must be something quite special...

Good luck luck with the U-Mo project

[.OrgOwner]

So how is the project coming along SW? Hows the XR to start? Big singles and no electric leg scare the crappers out of me.

[slickwill]

I haven't gotten anywhere with it. It's still sitting in Denver. I haven't made it over to get it yet. It will either be this weekend or next weekend.

[jhonda41]

He still didnt answer the question about the 848.

Oh and I have an F3 rim that I will be selling shortly. I took it off my 900 before I sold that.


-jh

[slickwill]

I answered the question about the 848 in post #9.

[slickwill]

Okay, finally got it here last week. The thing is an absolute beast. The crappy camera mic just doesn't do the noise justice but it's still pretty impressive. In person this thing sounds AMAZING. The neighbors are going to absolutely hate me.

I emailed Bob Bell from Precision Concepts who built the bike for American Honda and he gave me some history about the bike and some interesting info.

Hi Will

If the bike you have has the number N2 with white numbers on blue backgrounds [it does], that would be a best in the desert race bike.

That bike has .45 fork springs, with valving set up for high speed like nevada desert or baja. It has several special parts in the forks, and the springs are unique as well.

If the shock has a high speed clicker[it does], then it is a special one that was a race team unit[sweet]. If the spring is red[it is], it is a 9.7 kg. rate and the valving is set up to match the forks. again, this is a special shock, with several custom parts[very sweet].

Everything on the suspension we have rebuild parts for.

If this was a nevada race bike[have confirmed that it was], then the motor will have a power up kit in it. This consists of a cam, high compression piston, special cam chain and sprockets, jetting, and gaskets. This kit is from Honda so if you need any replacement parts, we can get them, or any honda dealer should be able to help you. One way to confirm if this kit is in the bike is to check the main jet. we ran a 185 or 188 in the power up kit motors, and a 175 or 178 in the motors that had stock pistons. In baja we ran stock pistons in the bikes, but still used the rest of the other power up parts.

The rest of the motor is stock.


Hopefully this helps answer your questions. If you have any more, feel free to E-- mail or call us

Thanks,

Bob

and another one

Hi Will,

Yes you do have a shock with a high speed adjuster. The 17mm red hex is the high speed adjuster. The slot head in the center is the low speed adjuster. The low speed has clicks, and the high speed is just turns.

Here are the standard settings for the fork and shock:

shock----- compression low speed : 8 clicks out
compression high speed : 7/ 8 ths of a turn out
rebound : 12 clicks out

fork----- compression : 10 clicks out
rebound : 13 clicks out

all adjustments are starting all the way stiff ( in ) then turning out to the proper setting.

the spring is a custom built item from KYB japan.

most of our jetting was done at about 3000 feet. these bikes were run down to sea level at times so the jetting may be okay. if you do not race on high speed roads or are not on the rev limit alot, you will probably be fine. we did run race gas in the bikes with the power up pistons, but how you ride will determine if you need this or not. the hotter and harder you ride the bike, the more this makes a difference.

thanks

Bob

[ghbzorro]

Hmmm. I notice there is no video of you (trying to) start the beast, LOL

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by ghbzorro

Hmmm. I notice there is no video of you (trying to) start the beast, LOL

I only weigh 145# and haven't had any problems starting it. It's more work than a 250 2-stroke but with the decompression lever it isn't a big deal. Spin it around a few times to get some oil pumped around. Set-it just past top dead center and give a good one. Usually goes on two when cold and one when warm.

[slickwill]

Got plate, registration, and insurance for it. Tomorrow it will get its first street ride. Haven't done much work on it yet. Can't afford to finish the project until someone buys my F4i.

[Fassst51]

Sounds like an awesome project bro!
I'm lazy, I'm looking to get one already done, hehe, one of these days, loot is an issue for me too... I sold my CR5, I now regret selling it, as it would have been the sickest SuMo known to man, other then your 650, hehe.

[.OrgOwner]

Originally Posted by slickwill

Got plate, registration, and insurance for it. Tomorrow it will get its first street ride. Haven't done much work on it yet. Can't afford to finish the project until someone buys my F4i.

So your still on dirt tyres then?