Tools / Garage / Paddock: Discussion of Motorcycle Related Tools, Stands, Lifts, etc.
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01-05-2007, 10:26 PM
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#1 | | TribalTim
Join Date: 05-18-2006 Location: Back in SoCal
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| Skills I notice it seems a lot of the riders in this forum do their own tire changing and general maintence on their bikes. Have most of you just learned by going for it or is it something someone else as sat down with you and walked you through it?  |
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01-05-2007, 10:35 PM
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#2 | | MSF/CMSP
Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Southern California
Bike(s): CBR1k, V45 & V65 Magna, KLR, KLX, Mojave Posts: 330
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| Re: Skills I'm not your normal shade tree mechanic. I have a BA in Industrial Education, and used to teach Auto Tech for a number of years. The Corps taught me to fix helicopters.
Bikes are lighter, cleaner and easier than cars, and cheaper than aircraft.
My father was a mech, I have no brothers.  |
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01-06-2007, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
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| Re: Skills Learned most of my skills from my dad, albeit it was working on cars. I just learned to apply some of that to bikes. |
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01-06-2007, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: 01-04-2007 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY
Bike(s): REPSOL 2005 CBR1000 RR Posts: 12
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| Re: Skills I have never touched a bike but am about to in like an hour.
going to follow the instructions of quick 26.
if anyone can read my thread of
repsol help please. and give me further advice on what they think it is ide be very thankful.
Wish me luck guys cuz im going in.
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01-06-2007, 3:10 PM
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Join Date: 05-23-2005 Location: vancouver canada
Bike(s): 2000 929 fireblade,86 vfr750,84 rz 350,(2)85 rz500 Posts: 240
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| Re: Skills Have been a journeyman motrcycle technician for the better part of 15 years and have been wrenching bikes since I was 10 with my brothers...... |
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01-06-2007, 3:49 PM
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Join Date: 02-23-2005 Location: Finland
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| Re: Skills Learned the basics from my dad, I also read alot and then just go for it.
One guy showed me tyre changing. |
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01-06-2007, 4:30 PM
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Join Date: 09-18-2005 Location: san antonio tx usa
Bike(s): 2006 CBR 1000RR in the only real color, black Posts: 210
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| Re: Skills service manual
anyone that can read and knows the basic principle of righty tighty lefty loosey and is familiar with following written instructions can do anything
on these bikes. biggest thing is the speciality tools that are sometimes needed cost more than the dealer wants to just do the work for you |
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01-06-2007, 6:04 PM
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Join Date: 08-23-2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Bike(s): 945cc '95 Formula Xtreme 'Frankenstein' Fireblade Age: 37 Posts: 688
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| Re: Skills Service manuals help a lot. Also, having good quality, and the RIGHT tools is very important.
I am self-taught. I learned what I know mostly through the internet, and asking service techs from time to time. Some things I just have the dealer do even though I could do them myself...things like changing fork seals or wheel bearings.
It's really fun wrenching on your own bike, so have fun!
Just make sure that you tighten everything up to the correct torque spec before you ride again! |
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01-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: 12-29-2001 Location: La Crosse, Wi
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| Re: Skills get a manual and dig in. Ive done a good deal to cars other than internal engine and transmission work I just get a manual and pay attention as to what you are doing. Ive had great success doing things myself when it comes to my bikes and cars. |
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01-06-2007, 11:54 PM
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Join Date: 09-18-2005 Location: san antonio tx usa
Bike(s): 2006 CBR 1000RR in the only real color, black Posts: 210
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| Re: Skills just make sure you read the entire procedure first to make sure that you have any and every tool necessary
nothing worse than getting half way into something to realize that you need to order a special tool to finish |
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01-07-2007, 8:38 AM
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Join Date: 12-29-2001 Location: New Jersey, USA
Bike(s): '01 CBR 929 black & red, K7 GSX-R600 Age: 48 Posts: 6,417
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| Re: Skills My Dad taught me to change the oil in my car when I was 17. That made changing the oil in my motorcycle, when I finally got one, no big deal. The bike I started wrenching on the most was my 'Blade, after reading good info and instructions on this site, and purchasing the service manual. I won't do engine work/valve adjustments, but most other routine stuff isn't a problem. I haven't broken too much stuff yet!  |
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01-13-2007, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: 06-03-2006 Location: Arizona
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| Re: Skills Quote:
Originally Posted by MSGT-R I'm not your normal shade tree mechanic. I have a BA in Industrial Education, and used to teach Auto Tech for a number of years. The Corps taught me to fix helicopters.
Bikes are lighter, cleaner and easier than cars, and cheaper than aircraft.
My father was a mech, I have no brothers.  | yeah but helicopters are more fun!
I do my own repairs and maintenance on my bike and friends bikes if they ask for help. I've worked on every aspect of automotive mechanics for the past 20 years and am a machinist by trade. I started working on bikes in 2003. Much of what mechanics and electrical is about is knowing how to troubleshoot various problems. Sure anyone can take a voltage regulator off and install a new one... BUT do they know what the root cause was that damaged the voltage regulator in the first place? R&R is good if you have the ability, but acurately troubleshooting problems is near priceless.
But I see you asked about general maintenance, not mechanical/electrical repairs. Buy a manual like they said, specific to your bike and NOT a Cylmar manual because they generally suck. Get a factory manual if you can. A pair of front and rear stands is needed too - for things like changing wheels/tires, and ajusting chain slack. They also make cleaning the wheels an easier job. If you feel uneasy about doing some portion of the maintenance after reading the manual, then it's best not to do it imo.
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01-13-2007, 1:14 PM
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Join Date: 08-22-2006 Location: Midgard
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| Re: Skills Gotta agree with the fellas suggesting manuals. I never worked on anything before I owned a bike. I've mostly owned Hondas though, so I really haven't had to do much. I just bought a manual (Clymer, by the way) and started wrenching. Of course, that was when I was young and seemed to have oceans of time. I actually sent the bike of to the mechanic for its heli-bar installation because I just couldn't come up with the time to do it myself. Uuugh.  |
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01-13-2007, 1:25 PM
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#14 | | MSF/CMSP
Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Southern California
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| Re: Skills Yup: Time or money. Most people don't have both at the same time.  |
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01-17-2007, 3:32 PM
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Join Date: 05-26-2006 Location: Gool ol' Wisconsin
Bike(s): 2002 CBR954RR Stock 2700 Rounds and A 2000 CR250R Posts: 4
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| Re: Skills Can I say "Do it Yourself". I learned fron reading reading and reading not to mension that i'm a cerified motorcycle tech and worked in an automobile shop for five years. |
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01-17-2007, 5:55 PM
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Join Date: 07-16-2005 Location: Sydney , NSW, Australia
Bike(s): '02 954RR, '03 FZ1, '93 CBR600, '89 ZXR750 Age: 36 Posts: 119
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| Re: Skills My Dad was a mechanical engineer. Back when I was 17 I blew my first car gearbox (mum's car) - Dad made me rebuild it. Next was the head on the same car. Have not looked back since then. Used to rebuild all my own cars when I was younger, about 6 in total - 4 cylinders through to V8's. I wont touch cars any more though.
Have done a few bikes since then. Started with an easy one - XR250 single cylinder. Then a ZXR750 in line 4 with DOHC and 16 valves. Next was a CBR600 track bike. Can pretty much turn my hand to anything now, but it's nice to still have Dad around to answer any tricky questions. Must agree though to ALWAYS BUY A SERVICE MANUAL.
Cheers,
Dave |
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03-17-2007, 11:05 AM
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#17 | | where do we go from here?
Join Date: 04-05-2006 Location: Indianapolis
Bike(s): 1996 CBR600F3, 2003 CBR954RR, 1988 YSR50 Age: 26 Posts: 448
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| Re: Skills Im self-taught pretty much on everything. I guess its just that I love working on things, tinkering with things. Im about to adjust my valves on my F3 and sync the carbs. It just seems 'easy' to me, not easy but just like normal I suppose. |
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03-17-2007, 11:19 AM
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#18 | | Hardcore 365 and 24
Join Date: 02-08-2007 Location: SE VA USA
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| Re: Skills I'm from STEEL COUNTRY USA. Grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, dad all work in the factories and knew how to use there hands and minds for something other than the remote, "playstations", computers...
My grandfather had me fixing the lawnmower before I was in the first grade(oil, plugs, blade--including sharpening). Dad went in the USArmy and was a heavy equipment mechanic... so that trickled down to me.
And as for me... The first 2 years out of high school I was in the shipyards as a nuclear pipe welder, worked part-time with my dad as an automotive mechanic, and I am currently employed as an Mechnical Engineering/Manufacturing Technician for a high speed manufacturing facility that specializes in fuel injectors and fuel systems.
Oh, you wanted to know if I could fix anything  |
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05-02-2007, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: 03-11-2007 Location: Burlington, NC
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| Re: Skills I'm a licensed airframe and powerplant aircraft tech (although I dont do it for a living anymore) and am pretty much self taught on dirt and street bikes. Learned mechanics growing up through trial and error and a lot of skinned knuckles . Loved every minute of it though. Have wrenched cars, bikes and airplanes and just about anything that has a motor. Totally rebuilt my '87 GSXR 1100 myself and wished I still had it. Would definitely agree the FACTORY manual is best and the most thorough. |
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05-02-2007, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: 03-20-2007 Location: australia
Bike(s): 05 CBR 1000rr TTR 250 Age: 25 Posts: 50
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| Re: Skills I work at toyota so on the weekends i just roll in there and use the work shop it makes it easy for me they have all the tools i need  |
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05-02-2007, 11:05 PM
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Join Date: 04-19-2007 Location: London ON Canada
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| Re: Skills I have always liked taking thing apart. I started working on cars 17 years ago, primarily as a hobby. Over the past 10 years I have worked on cars more and more, now I have been working as a mechanic for the last 4.5 years and am working on getting a licence. I have not work on bikes much but there is nothing I would be afraid to with a manual. |
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05-02-2007, 11:53 PM
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Join Date: 06-11-2006 Location: Ontario Canada
Bike(s): Custom painted 1990 Cbr600 F1 Hurricane Age: 20 Posts: 954
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| Re: Skills Started wrenching on cars in grade 11 when I was finally able to take Autoshop. Took it every semester through grade 11, 12 and my victory lap of grade 12. On the victory lap (some call it going back for an extra year for some extra credits..) I was fortunate enough to land a co-op work placement working at an engine shop in my hometown rebuilding mostly musclecar motors and alot of stock car engines (as we have a dirt oval track just outside of the city) Thats pretty much where I learnt the most of my knowledge |
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09-04-2007, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: 09-04-2007 Location: WATERBURY,CT
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| Re: Skills DEFINITLY PICK UP THE MANUAL AND FOR SMALLER PROJECTS YOU COULD TRY A YOUTUBE.COM SEARCH. I HAD DONE 1 OTHER OIL CHANGE ON MY PREVIOUIS BIKE, AND I JUST QUICKLY SEARCHED IT ON YOUTUBE AND FOUIND ALL THE INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR. |
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09-04-2007, 12:29 PM
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#24 | | Team Visa Racing
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| Re: Skills Holiday Inn Express...
Works every time. 
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09-04-2007, 1:21 PM
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Join Date: 12-25-2004 Location: Perth - Australia
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| Re: Skills Quote:
Originally Posted by tribaltim I notice it seems a lot of the riders in this forum do their own tire changing and general maintence on their bikes. Have most of you just learned by going for it or is it something someone else as sat down with you and walked you through it?  | Chain adjustment. Chain Adjustment Video
Somethings you can learn from others, some things you read , and some you have to try yourself !. |
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09-04-2007, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: 02-11-2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT.
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| Re: Skills Self taught, tear it apart, throw away the extra parts, if I pooch it, there is always someone that can fix it |
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09-04-2007, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: 02-25-2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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| Re: Skills Quote:
Originally Posted by MSGT-R I'm not your normal shade tree mechanic. I have a BA in Industrial Education, and used to teach Auto Tech for a number of years. The Corps taught me to fix helicopters.
Bikes are lighter, cleaner and easier than cars, and cheaper than aircraft.
My father was a mech, I have no brothers.  | The Corps did the same for me. If you can't fix it with a hammer, you need a bigger hammer. CH-53E SuperStallions (God's chariot) were my forte. When I got out I did some contractor work on Blackhawks.
When you learn on a helicopter with six transmissions, three turbo-shaft engines and 11 rotor blades, everything else seems pretty simple.
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10-04-2007, 5:44 PM
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Join Date: 10-29-2005 Location: UK
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| Re: Skills I use a heinz manual it will show you in degrees of difficulty which jobs you can do yourself if you are inexperienced and which jobs should be carried out by a professional |
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