Towing / Transport: Discussion of Trailers, Wheel Chocks, Tie-Downs, Ramps, etc for Transporting Motorcycles.
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just picked up a canyon dancer!
04-12-2004, 2:59 PM
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Join Date: 08-09-2001 Location: Vermont
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| just picked up a canyon dancer! Looks like the coolest thing in the world, and will totally be a better way of transporting the bike. High quality!
I hope I can use it without removing the Ohlins damper... |
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04-12-2004, 3:00 PM
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Join Date: 06-13-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! I was able to with my RC... Just get it under it first, then strap it down over your bars... |
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04-12-2004, 3:04 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by ccwilli3 I was able to with my RC... Just get it under it first, then strap it down over your bars... |
Thats what I was thinking...should be A-O-K!  I am reading up on the Tie-Down Strap comparison test plus trailering tips in the December 2003 sport rider (glad I keep these things) and it's helping tons. I really never have transported the bike longer then 100 miles before. |
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04-12-2004, 3:04 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Those things are the shiz! I trailered my bike ~1100 miles, a good part of it through mountains with one of those. Didn't move an inch. |
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04-12-2004, 3:06 PM
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Join Date: 08-28-2001 Location: Valencia, CA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! I hate mine, always F's up the grips. I just run soft ties through the frame now. Works with a 929, not sure about an RC. |
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04-12-2004, 3:07 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I hate mine, always F's up the grips. I just run soft ties through the frame now. Works with a 929, not sure about an RC. | Works on the XX too. |
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04-12-2004, 3:17 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I hate mine, always F's up the grips. I just run soft ties through the frame now. Works with a 929, not sure about an RC. |
I looped some tie-downs onto the grips once. I wrapped the hook around the grip, and came back over, and down. Since I like to protect my bikes on travel, I got that thing so tight, that it pulled one grip part way off. and twisted the heck out of the other. (way to go!  ) I then did the soft ties to the section of the clipon where it comes out from below the triple, this was the 929 BTW, the RC's are on top. That worked very well! (again, this was for like 100 miles.) I am hoping to never do that again with my grips. that was before I bought this canyon dancer, I just got this today.
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04-12-2004, 3:21 PM
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#8 | | Resigned to pursue other interests.
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04-12-2004, 3:27 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! I use soft straps only and circulated around the upper triple clamp/fork leg so the can't move. I wouldn't put anything on the grips under any circumstances (I have seen the throttle pipes turned into ellipsoids from Canyon Dancers and using soft straps on the grips).
I wouldn't put a tie down hook on anything on the bike, even a footpeg (that's what soft straps are for). |
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04-12-2004, 4:05 PM
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Join Date: 07-25-2002 Location: Ridgecrest, CA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Canyon dancers suck....screw up the grips. |
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04-12-2004, 4:10 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by ConqSoft |
Nice! Thanks Conq! I hope that I have as good of luck as you do/have.  |
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04-12-2004, 4:13 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by abtech I use soft straps only and circulated around the upper triple clamp/fork leg so the can't move. I wouldn't put anything on the grips under any circumstances (I have seen the throttle pipes turned into ellipsoids from Canyon Dancers and using soft straps on the grips).
I wouldn't put a tie down hook on anything on the bike, even a footpeg (that's what soft straps are for). |
Yeah, I was a dork, and learned that the hard way. But, never cost me anything but grips. *thank goodness* |
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04-12-2004, 4:33 PM
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Join Date: 12-29-2001 Location: New Jersey, USA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! I prefer the way Conq uses...softties around the lower triples, second set on the back. I do that depending on the bike. I learned a method that utilizes 2 straps only, but it doesn't work on all bikes. There has to be a place lower on the bike, around the footpeg area (but not the footpeg!). I wrap a softtie there, then pull it about 45 degrees forward. A wheel chock must be used. It compresses front and back suspension without tweeking on the forks. Works best on Ducati frames! |
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08-26-2004, 1:36 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie I hate mine, always F's up the grips. I just run soft ties through the frame now. Works with a 929, not sure about an RC. | Yup, it screwed up the grips on my old 929. PITA |
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08-26-2004, 1:41 PM
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#15 | | | Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! I use the Canyon Dancers & love them!!! The 929 grips would move slightly, but not enough to cry about. The grips on the 600RR don't move at all. Maybe some glue would help some of you guys out  . | |
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08-31-2004, 2:08 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by SPEED I use the Canyon Dancers & love them!!! The 929 grips would move slightly, but not enough to cry about. The grips on the 600RR don't move at all. Maybe some glue would help some of you guys out  . | I like mine too, it's the easiest way to strap 'er down, especially all by myself. They can tweak the grips a little, but if you don't smash the forks ALL the way down (I leave about 1/2 the travel) and use a couple tiedowns on the rear, the last few times I've hauled her, the grips were fine.  |
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08-31-2004, 2:24 PM
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Join Date: 05-08-2003 Location: Flyover Country
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Check this out. I think I've found my transporting solution for Mr. Widebody. They were on eBay awhile back for $79.00 so I e-mailed the guy and he's got several more in stock. This is my next purchase...
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08-31-2004, 2:26 PM
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#18 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Chain Check this out. I think I've found my transporting solution for Mr. Widebody. They were on eBay awhile back for $79.00 so I e-mailed the guy and he's got several more in stock. This is my next purchase... | That looks like a pretty cool idea |
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08-31-2004, 2:56 PM
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Join Date: 02-10-2002 Location: Hoosierland, USA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by TGZ13 That looks like a pretty cool idea |
Looks heinous to me..... 
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08-31-2004, 2:59 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Baketech
Looks heinous to me.....  | Hey, I gotta run, but I'd be interested to know why.
E-mail me later if you can... |
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08-31-2004, 3:13 PM
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Everyone has an opinion, and none of them are just gospel truth. Some say it is the best, some say it is the worst. The truth lies somewhere inbetween. This is like an oil thread, or an engine break-in thread, where some people claim to have some inside knowledge that no test has ever confirmed. Hearsay is worth something, but it is often hard to tell how much.
So here is my own hearsay...
I've used a Canyon Dancer for about 25 trailer trips to the track, with no damage at all to the grips. No twisting of the rubber grips or damage to the throttle sleeve, nothing.
You just have to be carefull not to put them on wrong. If you get the black strap over the grip, the force will not be well distributed. Damage will occur if you don't get that sleeve on there effectively. Just using them wrong once can mess things up.
You have to make sure it the grip goes through the sleeve, and the black strap is beneath that. There may be some other issues involved that make the grip damage happen, such as cranking down to hard on the ratchet straps, or where your trailer mounting points are. Just an inch or two of the forks travel is all the cinching down you should need. |
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08-31-2004, 3:13 PM
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Join Date: 02-10-2002 Location: Hoosierland, USA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Chain Hey, I gotta run, but I'd be interested to know why.
E-mail me later if you can... |
I'd have to see one in person, or even a better picture...but that setup looks far more scary to me than a CD.... 
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08-31-2004, 3:17 PM
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Join Date: 02-10-2002 Location: Hoosierland, USA
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| Re: just picked up a canyon dancer! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Zippy Everyone has an opinion, and none of them are just gospel truth. Some say it is the best, some say it is the worst. The truth lies somewhere inbetween. This is like an oil thread, or an engine break-in thread, where some people claim to have some inside knowledge that no test has ever confirmed. Hearsay is worth something, but it is often hard to tell how much.
So here is my own hearsay...
I've used a Canyon Dancer for about 25 trailer trips to the track, with no damage at all to the grips. No twisting of the rubber grips or damage to the throttle sleeve, nothing.
You just have to be carefull not to put them on wrong. If you get the black strap over the grip, the force will not be well distributed. Damage will occur if you don't get that sleeve on there effectively. Just using them wrong once can mess things up.
You have to make sure it the grip goes through the sleeve, and the black strap is beneath that. There may be some other issues involved that make the grip damage happen, such as cranking down to hard on the ratchet straps, or where your trailer mounting points are. Just an inch or two of the forks travel is all the cinching down you should need. | Great post...
I too have used a CD quite a bit with no ill effects. I like wrapping a small shop rag around the grip before slipping the CD sleeve on...it acts as a cushion.
That said, I understand why some do not like the CD...different strokes for different folks... 
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09-01-2004, 10:28 PM
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