Towing / Transport: Discussion of Trailers, Wheel Chocks, Tie-Downs, Ramps, etc for Transporting Motorcycles.
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Rachet or Pull straps in trailer
12-10-2004, 5:45 PM
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#1 | | Cycle Trendz Racing
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| Rachet or Pull straps in trailer From my other thread, just wondering what everyone else is using for straps in the trailer.
Rachet or Pull type? WHY would be nice also. |
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12-10-2004, 5:57 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Ratchet. I've seen pull types come loose without even getting a chance to start the vehicle. I have used the pull types, however, to secure the rear, just enough to keep it from sliding left/right |
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12-10-2004, 5:57 PM
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#3 | | Resigned to pursue other interests.
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Ratchet. I only compress the forks about 50% though.
The type of strap really doesn't matter. You can overcompress the suspension wiht either type. |
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12-10-2004, 5:59 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer I use pulls when towing my Blade. I've towed an FZR1000 to Texas and back that way with no problems. I think the biggest argument would be that you don't need to put that much pressure on the bars, seals, etc to safely tow it. It would be easy to over tighten....
Having said that, I use 2 1/2 inch ratchets to tow my VTX 1800, which weighs over 800lbs. I had used the smaller, pull types once and they slipped, creating slack  Luckily, nothing let go.
For the pull-type, my personal choice is Anchra. I still have the ones my dad used to tow dirt-bikes with 25yrs ago and they work perfectly. Some of the other brands I tried have scared me. I picked up a brand new set of Anchras...no problems  |
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12-10-2004, 6:22 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Unfortunatley I have a few miles on a trailer and have to say that ratchets are the way that I would go...we use both and it is a fight for the ratcheters every time...I asked for some new ones for christmas though so maybe that will help? |
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12-10-2004, 6:29 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer If you're going to go ratchets: http://www.hondadirectlineusa.com/st...1&ID=325382214
These are the ones I use, and I LOVE them. Built-in soft ties too. |
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12-10-2004, 6:56 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer I have seen too many ratchet jobs damage bike. I have only used quality camlock pull types for 15+years and have NEVER had one let go or loosen up and have never had tie down related damage. |
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12-10-2004, 7:39 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBRBob I have seen too many ratchet jobs damage bike. I have only used quality camlock pull types for 15+years and have NEVER had one let go or loosen up and have never had tie down related damage. | me too! |
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12-10-2004, 8:00 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBRBob I have seen too many ratchet jobs damage bike. I have only used quality camlock pull types for 15+years and have NEVER had one let go or loosen up and have never had tie down related damage. | Me three! Well, ok, I've only been using them for 10 years with no problems.
I just find the ratchet ones to be a PITA to use compared to the camlock ones. I only use Ancra.
Last edited by HondaGalToo : 12-10-2004 at 8:01 PM.
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12-10-2004, 9:30 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by HondaGalToo Me three! Well, ok, I've only been using them for 10 years with no problems.
I just find the ratchet ones to be a PITA to use compared to the camlock ones. I only use Ancra. | Me 4. I ONLY use Ancra pulll type. |
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12-10-2004, 10:03 PM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie Me 4. I ONLY use Ancra pulll type. |
Ancras are the only way to go.  Accept no imitations.  |
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12-16-2004, 2:50 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer ancra pull-type are the only ones I use. Some other cheap, and even not so cheap, pull-type slip right out of the box. Ratchets = pain in the ass |
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12-16-2004, 8:12 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Ancra cams are perfect for bikes....I save the ratchets for moving furniture, booming down junk etc....
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12-16-2004, 8:43 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by Baketech Ancra cams are perfect for bikes....I save the ratchets for moving furniture, booming down junk etc.... | Hey stranger! Where've you been hiding?
<oops...sorry for the threadjack  >
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12-16-2004, 9:08 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer I've used both "pull" and "ratchet" when trailering my bike to the track. I've found that the "ratcheting" tie downs don't work as well as the "pull" type.
Also been told by a friend (use to race enduro-pro) that pull type ancras are the way to go. He's seen too many bikes get damaged due to the "racheting" type tie downs fail.  |
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12-16-2004, 9:09 AM
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#16 | | I'm working on it...ok?
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer One more vote for Ancra pull tie-downs!
Why? Because they work and have never failed me!
Last edited by maxib : 12-16-2004 at 9:10 AM.
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12-16-2004, 9:10 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer I use Ancra pull straps, then attach ratchet straps (not compressing the forks any farther than I would with just the pull straps). |
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12-16-2004, 9:16 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by Red Rider Hey stranger! Where've you been hiding?
<oops...sorry for the threadjack  > | Dammit, don't make that idiot think that we like him!!!  |
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12-16-2004, 9:17 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete Dammit, don't make that idiot think that we like him!!!  | We've tried that with you for months now and you're still here. At least he left for a little while. |
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12-16-2004, 9:20 AM
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#20 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by ND4SPD We've tried that with you for months now and you're still here. At least he left for a little while. |  He just doesnt get the hint  |
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12-16-2004, 9:24 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Y'all don't like me?  |
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12-16-2004, 9:26 AM
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#22 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by Pete Y'all don't like me?  |  |
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12-16-2004, 10:08 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer there's nothin special about ancras IMNSHO.  |
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12-16-2004, 10:51 AM
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#24 | | Mr. Brownstone
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer  A Sport Chock with two non Ancra pull-type just barely snug off the rear of the bike. No fork compression at all, no worries. Hell, the two rear tie-downs aren't really necessary.
Of course an R1 will just stand there all by itself with no need for any tie down or chocks.  |
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12-16-2004, 11:05 AM
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| Re: Rachet or Pull straps in trailer Quote: |
Originally Posted by Red Rider Hey stranger! Where've you been hiding? | No web access in the county jail....
I'm on work release now, so I can log on occasionally......
I've learned my lesson though....no more stunting on public roads.... 
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