[TGZ13]

Originally Posted by ND4SPD

That he owns a trailer...

So far that would just about cover it

[showmethebombs]

Originally Posted by abtech

Well, what exactly does it mean?

I will be making it to Grattan

[showmethebombs]

Originally Posted by luvtolean

Paint it white inside. When you work on things in the trailer you can see much better. You got the spare too right?

I think I might tile some things inside...but I will be getting a spare when I pick it up friday.

[sheepofblue]

I have been bit by the trailer bug and found a 7x12 Pace with the pointed nose, dual axle w/brakes, 3 e-tracks, controller for the truck and I can even get it in Pewter to semi-match the truck for about 4K. I also found a Continental Cargo that is similar but a bit over 5K. Seems a lot of people are happy with Pace but I have to admit the Continental Cargo looked better built (and had the smooth sides) Anyone had experience with the CC brand? Curious if it is worth the premium.

Thanks

[abtech]

The pointed nose trailers (originally designed for snowmobiles) have more of a tendancy to wander and sway in cross and head winds than the flat or rounded nose trailers. After owning both styles, I found there is absolutely no advantage to the pointed types and gas mileage for both types were within .5 mpg (the rounded front was actually better). For the same overall length, you also lose a good deal of floor space with the V nose type as well.

[ConqSoft]

Originally Posted by abtech

After owning both styles, I found there is absolutely no advantage to the pointed types and gas mileage for both types were within .5 mpg (the rounded front was actually better).

That's good to know. I was going to go with a v-nose on the next trailer because I figured it would help with mileage quite a bit.

[abtech]

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

That's good to know. I was going to go with a v-nose on the next trailer because I figured it would help with mileage quite a bit.

On paper it should, but the airstream from the tow vehicle pretty much negates any advantage from the smaller frontal section and all it takes is about 3 degrees of angle to one side of the V and the trailer begins to push sideways. If the V nose design was effective, I believe you would see just about every tractor trailer on the road utilize the design . . .

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by abtech

The pointed nose trailers (originally designed for snowmobiles) have more of a tendancy to wander and sway in cross and head winds than the flat or rounded nose trailers. After owning both styles, I found there is absolutely no advantage to the pointed types and gas mileage for both types were within .5 mpg (the rounded front was actually better). For the same overall length, you also lose a good deal of floor space with the V nose type as well.

Interesting on the cross wind not a big factor here but my motivation also is to pull it out west. Although I think I am talking rounded not true V. Although I could not find one like it one Pace's site.

I talked to a fellow that pulls them to trailer shows with a truck similar to mine and he stated about your .5 figure also.

Lose space though? You lost me if you take a 7x12 and add the v-space you gain? am I missing something?

[figment]

my v-nose has absolute stability, like an arrow. But Id prefer more conventional shape next time. The v is not always easy to do floorplans with...

[figment]

side note:
aerodynamicly speaking, if you put the v on the rear end, it would make MUCH better mileage with less drag.

[abtech]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Interesting on the cross wind not a big factor here but my motivation also is to pull it out west. Although I think I am talking rounded not true V. Although I could not find one like it one Pace's site.

I talked to a fellow that pulls them to trailer shows with a truck similar to mine and he stated about your .5 figure also.

Lose space though? You lost me if you take a 7x12 and add the v-space you gain? am I missing something?

Depends on who is doing the measuring. My 8.5 by 16 is the same length overall as a friends Pace 8 by 16 V nose. According to the literature, he has some 12 less square feet of floor space than I do.

I tow with a weight distributing hitch and anti sway bars. I can toss the sway bars on my round nose, but without them on the V, it would wander like crazy in anything beyond 1 or 2 mph of cross winds. My brother in law sold his V nose for the very same reason (different brand and size BTW).

worth looking at . . .

[figment]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

...

Lose space though? You lost me if you take a 7x12 and add the v-space you gain? am I missing something?

sort of,


where do you put the tool box/bench? My v has a spare tire on the floor and I hang my clothes and tiedowns there. But I cant put a tool chest up there the way I could with a square-nose.

[figment]

Originally Posted by abtech

...but without them on the V, it would wander like crazy in anything beyond 1 or 2 mph of cross winds.

Loaded the same way?


I know if you load a trailer with too much weight proportioned aft the axles it will not track well no matter what the front looks like.

[abtech]

Originally Posted by figment

Loaded the same way?


I know if you load a trailer with too much weight proportioned aft the axles it will not track well no matter what the front looks like.

Loaded the same way (within the confines dictated by the difference in shape). I've been pulling trailers (including the 48' variety) for over 30 years, so I have the "load management" thing pretty well under control . . .

[Red Rider]

I have a 6 x 12 Continental Cargo single axle and like it a lot. I think the difference in trailers is the thickness of the floor, walls, aluminum skin and the number of wall and roof supports. Also the type of axle (leaf spring vs. torsion flex) can make a difference in price and quality.

[figment]

Originally Posted by abtech

...so I have the "load management" thing pretty well under control . . .

yeah that was said as information to everyone who might read this much as a question to you. Like you, I learned how to load and back trailers before I could drive on public roads.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Red Rider

I have a 6 x 12 Continental Cargo single axle and like it a lot. I think the difference in trailers is the thickness of the floor, walls, aluminum skin and the number of wall and roof supports. Also the type of axle (leaf spring vs. torsion flex) can make a difference in price and quality.

Any reason in particular you went Continental Cargo?

[Red Rider]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Any reason in particular you went Continental Cargo?

It was the only brand carried by my local dealer at the time. I looked at Haulmarks too and they seemed comparable to the Continental Cargo.

[showmethebombs]

Carmate makes a pretty nice V nose that is alum or steel. lighter than the whole steel game. Mine is not V, not long (6X12) and mine is steel.

[sheepofblue]

I have a GMC Sierra 1500 with a V-8 so weight is not a huge factor at the length I am looking at, more the $$$ and feature list. Although I am leaning very hard to a tandem axel so I get brakes.

[SuperDave]

I saw someone state their Dodge 1500 extended cab was a piece of crap when hauling, others stating the smaller pickups struggle (Ranger, Tacoma, etc.)

So what are the good hauling type trucks, (excluding the 3500 Diesals) ?

Are the Dodge (Hemi's) really crap (tranny wise) for hauling?

Are Chevy's better, or Ford's?

Are any of the 1/2 ton pickups sufficient for hauling enclosed trailers?

[abtech]

Originally Posted by SuperDave

I saw someone state their Dodge 1500 extended cab was a piece of crap when hauling, others stating the smaller pickups struggle (Ranger, Tacoma, etc.)

So what are the good hauling type trucks, (excluding the 3500 Diesals) ?

Are the Dodge (Hemi's) really crap (tranny wise) for hauling?

Are Chevy's better, or Ford's?

Are any of the 1/2 ton pickups sufficient for hauling enclosed trailers?

With the correct loading technique, and a weight distributing hitch, most 1/2 ton vehicles do a great job with medium sized trailers (less than 18 feet). One thing to keep in mind is width. A 6" increase in width on an enclosed trailer is the same (in terms of mileage and towability) as a 2' to 4' increase in length. My current 8.5 by 16 is actually harder to pull than my 8 by 20 was, as the increase in frontal area has a more dramatic impact on aerodynamics than the loss of length.

[ConqSoft]

My '02 F-150 5.4L (V8) SuperCrew pulled my 7x14 (7ft interior height) fine. Even through the mountains. Loaded with 3 people in the cab, all our luggage/gear/tools/etc, and two bikes.

Before that, I used my '99 F-150 4.6L (V8) SuperCab to pull an 8x20 through the same mountains. Loaded with 3 people in the cab, all our luggage/gear/tools/etc, and three bikes.