High-Side at Grattan...

ConqSoft · 08-21-2004, 7:25 AM

...caught on tape.

One of the guys on the XX board was there for a track day and his high-side was caught.

Heavy-Dee · 08-21-2004, 8:26 AM

HOLY CRAP!!!! That was the race that Fearj and I were in!! And that is Fearj following him and going by. I think the guy downshifted one to far and locked up the back.

HD

Baketech · 08-21-2004, 8:41 AM

I love how the marshal is wearing an invisible black wifebeater instead of a yellow or white shirt....

HondaGalToo · 08-21-2004, 9:32 AM

Were they continuing to run the race with an ambulance on the course?

bubba · 08-21-2004, 9:41 AM

where is the dudes flag?

what was funny about that was - the rider falss on his head and at the end the ambulance driver puts his arm around the dudes neck.

abtech · 08-21-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

Were they continuing to run the race with an ambulance on the course?

All of the regional racing organizations will continue to run with an ambulance on course unless the rider or bike is in the middle of the track or there is another incident that requires the second ambulance to roll. Really no big deal.

The flag is in the corner before the incident and the first guy in the video is the "second man" for corner 7. Once the ambulance flag is shown (along with the waving yellow in the corner preceeding the incident), everyone continues to race with a no passing zone between the corner before the incident and the corner after the incident. The ambulance flag is shown full course.

abtech · 08-21-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

...caught on tape.

One of the guys on the XX board was there for a track day and his high-side was caught.

That isn't a track day, that's a race.

HondaGalToo · 08-21-2004, 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by abtech

All of the regional racing organizations will continue to run with an ambulance on course unless the rider or bike is in the middle of the track or there is another incident that requires the second ambulance to roll. Really no big deal.

Oh. Huh. Didn't know they did that as I've only done trackdays, not races.

Fearj · 08-21-2004, 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

HOLY CRAP!!!! That was the race that Fearj and I were in!! And that is Fearj following him and going by. I think the guy downshifted one to far and locked up the back.

HD

Yep I remember it well

I'd pass the guy on the straight but he'd trail brake into turn 1 and take the lead. We did this lap after lap....until he high sided in turn 6. I just remember seeing him slam his helmet (really hard) into the track. Unfornately, the video doesn't do justice to how fast things happen on the track. It looks so much slower on tape.

929_Nupe · 08-21-2004, 10:49 PM

WOW that was aggressive..

freq · 08-21-2004, 11:17 PM

What class / race was that? Sounded like two-stroker and fours in there?

Did he go back out on track after that?

Bacchus · 08-22-2004, 1:55 AM

Never raced, never even done a track day but, shouldn't that first guy on the scene have directed a little more attention to the rider's condition? WTF?! He would glance over his shoulder every once in awhile, then go back to flagging traffic.

Even when the ambulance showed up it looked like a complete cluster phuck.

G-Force Junkie · 08-22-2004, 2:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Never raced, never even done a track day but, shouldn't that first guy on the scene have directed a little more attention to the rider's condition? WTF?! He would glance over his shoulder every once in awhile, then go back to flagging traffic.

Even when the ambulance showed up it looked like a complete cluster phuck.

He's a flag man, not a medic. I would want him flagging traffic so other riders dont crash into me.

Zeeman · 08-22-2004, 3:11 AM

that did not look fun at all.

Z...

abtech · 08-22-2004, 7:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Never raced, never even done a track day but, shouldn't that first guy on the scene have directed a little more attention to the rider's condition? WTF?! He would glance over his shoulder every once in awhile, then go back to flagging traffic.

Even when the ambulance showed up it looked like a complete cluster phuck.

One of the first things they teach you as a corner mashall is not to become part of the incident. Once a rider is down, it's the "second man's" responsibility to make certain the bike and rider are out of harms way and to keep other riders away from the incident. You are never supposed to try and give aid to a downed rider beyond making certain he is out of the way of further injury (that's what the med crew is for).

I would bet he was glancing over his shoulder to make certain the fallen rider didn't crawl back out onto the track (I have seen this a few times, as a good smack on the head can cause a lot of disorientation), or attempt to get back on his bike.

Fearj · 08-22-2004, 9:06 AM

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Originally Posted by freq

What class / race was that? Sounded like two-stroker and fours in there?

Did he go back out on track after that?

It was a 3-hr endurance race so the field has all types of bikes...600s, liter bikes, etc. After watching the video again, it looks like the guy loss consciousness and laid there motionless for about 10-15 secs.

Gblade · 08-22-2004, 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearj

It was a 3-hr endurance race so the field has all types of bikes...600s, liter bikes, etc. After watching the video again, it looks like the guy loss consciousness and laid there motionless for about 10-15 secs.

I was thinking hey get up get up......imagine that in jeans???? That dudes knees would be jello.

That looked like a low speed high-side. Rear tire looked greasy? Am curious to know the particulars: Tires (make/model)? How long into the race was this? Were tires new a start of race? What size bike? Outside Temp.

abtech · 08-22-2004, 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gblade

I was thinking hey get up get up......imagine that in jeans???? That dudes knees would be jello.

That looked like a low speed high-side. Rear tire looked greasy? Am curious to know the particulars: Tires (make/model)? How long into the race was this? Were tires new a start of race? What size bike? Outside Temp.

As mentioned before, it looks as if the rider made one too many downshifts after the downhill section. This has happened before . . .

Gblade · 08-22-2004, 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by abtech

As mentioned before, it looks as if the rider made one too many downshifts after the downhill section. This has happened before . . .

mmmm ok.

MedTechRR · 08-22-2004, 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba

what was funny about that was - the rider falss on his head and at the end the ambulance driver puts his arm around the dudes neck.

Nope, nothing funny. He is doing a spinal cord injury evaluation. He probably tried to convince the guy to lie down at first but he refused and wanted to ride again so the medic at least could feel for deformities and check for pain in his neck. C3 and C4 vertebrea (neck) are the most likely to be injured so this is why he checked his neck! Feel safe at Gratttan because this guy did nothing wrong!

Bacchus · 08-22-2004, 6:40 PM

G-Force, abtech: thanks for the explanations, and without

me .

Shows what I (don't) know about racing...