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Grattan - Where do you brake?
03-07-2006, 8:38 PM
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| Grattan - Where do you brake? I was wondering for those of you who have ridden Grattan, do brake before, at the crest, or after the jump? Just curious  |
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03-07-2006, 8:53 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Into the face according to Abtech not at all according to Boo
Search the site Abtech posted a great outline of the track. I plan on digging my copy up for a refresher before this year 
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03-07-2006, 8:54 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? If you brake over the crest of the bump, you will get the rear high enough to get your attention.
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03-07-2006, 8:57 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? abtech's tips attached here: Grattan (MI) |
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03-07-2006, 8:58 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? I got into the habit of tapping the rear brake just enough to keep the suspension down right before I crested the hump and then grabbed the front brake. But, I'm also a turtle  |
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03-07-2006, 9:19 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? At the crest carrying enough speed so you don't touch the brake again until you're through T7.
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03-07-2006, 9:31 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by ND4SPD I got into the habit of tapping the rear brake just enough to keep the suspension down right before I crested the hump and then grabbed the front brake. But, I'm also a turtle  | And where exactly did you leave the common surface for your own track 
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03-07-2006, 9:34 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Brake just before the hump or not at all. Trust me. |
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03-07-2006, 9:36 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by sheepofblue And where exactly did you leave the common surface for your own track  | The front straight  |
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03-07-2006, 10:12 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nickelii I was wondering for those of you who have ridden Grattan, do brake before, at the crest, or after the jump? Just curious  | I'm slow, so I grabbed a downshift going up the bump. This way I had no or little braking on the other side and I was already in the correct gear to enter the esses.
IIRC, but it's been a long time. Too long.... might have to do something about that....Bill? Strange things are afoot..at the circle K.
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03-07-2006, 10:22 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? I brake too soon......  but that particular spot I let go of the gas going up and brake after the jump. Ask Kawboy what happen when you brake before  Yeah he passed me....... with the back wheel 2 feet from the ground...... |
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03-07-2006, 10:30 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake?
That is the truth. I seen the whole thing. From the pits. |
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03-07-2006, 10:38 PM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? I also usually brake right at the base of it. I have a friend who has ridden it backwards a few times and he's got a great picture wheeling over it. |
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03-08-2006, 5:46 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? I've never had enough speed coming out of 4 to require any braking other than what the hill provides...
You "Whack Packers" are animals... 
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03-08-2006, 6:59 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? For most people I recommend setting your speed on the face of the hump. In a race, I usually don't brake at all, just catch a downshift and let the front tire scrub off the speed when you throw it in for 5. I don't recommend this technique unless you have good throttle control, as this is a great setup for a highside. |
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03-08-2006, 7:02 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Baketech I've never had enough speed coming out of 4 to require any braking other than what the hill provides...
You "Whack Packers" are animals...  | Sandbagger. You're [a little] faster than you lead on.  |
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03-08-2006, 7:14 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? i can tell you not to use your rear brake as you are coming onto the hump, you get some mad wheel hop |
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03-08-2006, 8:11 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by stegen i can tell you not to use your rear brake as you are coming onto the hump, you get some mad wheel hop | You never would have tried that if you had made it in time for the riders meeting and track walk  |
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03-08-2006, 8:26 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by abtech You never would have tried that if you had made it in time for the riders meeting and track walk  | True but chicago traffic sucks and we got lost. What can ya do. I think i did well for not having it though  |
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03-08-2006, 8:35 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? My goal last year was not braking at all going into T5.
And by the 3rd day I was not touching the brake.
My goal this year is to carry more speed through the essess and onto the back straight. |
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03-08-2006, 8:52 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Quote: |
Originally Posted by stegen True but chicago traffic sucks and we got lost. What can ya do. I think i did well for not having it though  | Yes, you did just fine. BTW, I haven't received your entry for this year  |
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03-08-2006, 10:32 AM
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| Re: Grattan - Where do you brake? Yep seems Stegen, NinerPilot (it is the even year), Bubba and the Jersey trailer are all not on the list yet
Hmm maybe some other southerners can be added 
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